My 2 cents

[qwerty1]

Well as i am new to this forum i have read some of the articles and quite frankly i am appalled to even be called a Christian,

Most of you are constantly judging people, hell i even read one of the article where a kid tried to commit suicide and blaming it on "demons",
did you ever think that the kids life was soooo shite and he needed help did anybody even think of that, noo!.

Another article i read was about Adhd and bipolar kids, did you even stop to think that they wanted to be this way mabey there whole life time they have been good, clean pure in this life and the previous one,
But no its because there "evil"
bull shit maybe you are the ones being evil blaming everything on satan,

Everything is for a purpose don't you think God would want us to be this way no...

Smite full, lying, cheating and pride we have all comitted sins even if we are an "upstanding" Christians we have all sinned and we will always continue to sin Because guess what guys we are human's as much as we would hate to admit it,

Maybe some of you in a past life or even this life have done something so terrible and you try to hide it with Christianity, believing things from the past will go away guess what they wont.

And by the way ghosts are real sometimes with the intention of good sometimes for the intention of bad, Demons if you were dealing with a demon you would be dead yes thats right dead,
Some of you should look at yourself's and maybe you will see what the real demon is!

The only reason why we have rapists, murders and arseholes of society is beacuse they were raised that way, yes don't blame the devil blame yourself your children reflect on who you are.

Another point the bible contradicts itself "god is all love or god is smite ful" he cant be both, i mean the bible was written 1000 years after jesus died, trying putting a group of people in a room and play chinese whispers for thirty minutes with message are you going to get that same message back well you tell me,
The bible had been re written over centuries and now we have the final copy but is still being rewritten.

By the way yes i am Christian no i am not a freaking demon and i do belive in God

Oh and let me ask if a burglar came into your house stealing your stuff and he turns to you and says "don't worry i'm Christian" what would you do?

By the way who ever bands me is a kiddy didler

[Levi Jones]

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I'm going to issue you an infraction for your long winded hateful rant and I'm going to move this thread to the introductions forum.

[qwerty1]

Re: My 2 cents

by the way it's not hatred its freedom of speech look it up

[Levi Jones]

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by the way it's not hatred its freedom of speech look it up

I don't work for the government and you are on private property. You are a guest of the Lord's here.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: My 2 cents

I'm going to try to respond to this rant.

Thank you for at least inserting paragraph breaks; we usually get Walls of Text.

Well as i am new to this forum i have read some of the articles and quite frankly i am appalled to even be called a Christian,

Then you probably aren't one. My guess is you're a Catholic, or perhaps a liberal false Christian who ignores the Bible for your "feelings".

Most of you are constantly judging people, hell i even read one of the article where a kid tried to commit suicide and blaming it on "demons",
did you ever think that the kids life was soooo shite and he needed help did anybody even think of that, noo!.

If he had turned to God, or to his Pastor, he'd have gotten help. Did he? No. Why?

Another article i read was about Adhd and bipolar kids, did you even stop to think that they wanted to be this way

Nope, I can't say I ever thought a kid wanted to be bipolar or have ADHD. So, you're saying it's a lifestyle choice, and we shouldn't try to help them find Jesus?

mabey there whole life time they have been good, clean pure in this life and the previous one,

Oh, so you believe in Karma, eh? Tell me all about karma, why don't you?

Smite full, lying, cheating and pride we have all comitted sins even if we are an "upstanding" Christians we have all sinned and we will always continue to sin Because guess what guys we are human's as much as we would hate to admit it,

Once becoming Christian, we are washed free of sin and no longer capable of sinning. Do you continue to sin? Then you are no True Christian™.

Maybe some of you in a past life or even this life have done something so terrible and you try to hide it with Christianity, believing things from the past will go away guess what they wont.

Please show me where the Bible suggests in any way that we have "past lives" or "reincarnations".

I knew you were no Christian.

And by the way ghosts are real sometimes with the intention of good sometimes for the intention of bad, Demons if you were dealing with a demon you would be dead yes thats right dead,

Um, no.

The Bible makes it crystal clear that the dead are unknowing until the Resurrection at Judgment. There are no "ghosts" of dead people wandering about. There are only demons impersonating dead people.

The only reason why we have rapists, murders and arseholes of society is beacuse they were raised that way, yes don't blame the devil blame yourself your children reflect on who you are.

So, if that's the case, we should be executing not just serial killers, but also their parents and teachers. Right?

Another point the bible contradicts itself "god is all love or god is smite ful" he cant be both,

Um, could you show me that verse?

The Bible does not say that God loves everybody. It describes in intimate detail whom He hates, in fact. It would help if you bothered to READ it before trying to tell people what it says.

i mean the bible was written 1000 years after jesus died,

Citation needed.

By the way yes i am Christian no i am not a freaking demon and i do belive in God

No, you're not. And no, you don't.

You believe in a "god" that you have made up for yourself. You have never read the Bible to find out who God is.

By the way who ever bands me is a kiddy didler

Wow, that really adds to your credibility.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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by the way it's not hatred its freedom of speech look it up

This is a privately owned Christian church's forum, not a government site.

The First Amendment protects you from Government censorship. It does not say that you can come onto a privately-owned website and spew anti-Christian hatred any more than it says I can come into your house and urinate on your cat.

[Master Gordon]

Re: rsrdtfy

Well as i am new to this forum i have read some of the articles and quite frankly i am appalled to even be called a Christian,

Most of you are constantly judging people, hell i even read one of the article where a kid tried to commit suicide and blaming it on "demons",
did you ever think that the kids life was soooo shite and he needed help did anybody even think of that, noo!.

Another article i read was about Adhd and bipolar kids, did you even stop to think that they wanted to be this way mabey there whole life time they have been good, clean pure in this life and the previous one,
But no its because there "evil"
bull shit maybe you are the ones being evil blaming everything on satan,

Everything is for a purpose don't you think God would want us to be this way no...

Smite full, lying, cheating and pride we have all comitted sins even if we are an "upstanding" Christians we have all sinned and we will always continue to sin Because guess what guys we are human's as much as we would hate to admit it,

Maybe some of you in a past life or even this life have done something so terrible and you try to hide it with Christianity, believing things from the past will go away guess what they wont.

And by the way ghosts are real sometimes with the intention of good sometimes for the intention of bad, Demons if you were dealing with a demon you would be dead yes thats right dead,
Some of you should look at yourself's and maybe you will see what the real demon is!

The only reason why we have rapists, murders and arseholes of society is beacuse they were raised that way, yes don't blame the devil blame yourself your children reflect on who you are.

Another point the bible contradicts itself "god is all love or god is smite ful" he cant be both, i mean the bible was written 1000 years after jesus died, trying putting a group of people in a room and play chinese whispers for thirty minutes with message are you going to get that same message back well you tell me,
The bible had been re written over centuries and now we have the final copy but is still being rewritten.

By the way yes i am Christian no i am not a freaking demon and i do belive in God

Oh and let me ask if a burglar came into your house stealing your stuff and he turns to you and says "don't worry i'm Christian" what would you do?

By the way who ever bands me is a kiddy didler

After reading your post I can understand why you are appalled to call yourself a Christian, because quite frankly I am appalled to think you are a Christian with you stupid views and you cannot even string words together to make a sentence.

What does "who ever bands me is a kiddy didler" mean? I think you are the kiddy didler and I think you are one of those horrid Catholics.

[Lisa H]

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Well as i am new to this forum i have read some of the articles and quite frankly i am appalled to even be called a Christian,

Most of you are constantly judging people, hell i even read one of the article where a kid tried to commit suicide and blaming it on "demons",
did you ever think that the kids life was soooo shite and he needed help did anybody even think of that, noo!.

Another article i read was about Adhd and bipolar kids, did you even stop to think that they wanted to be this way mabey there whole life time they have been good, clean pure in this life and the previous one,
But no its because there "evil"
bull shit maybe you are the ones being evil blaming everything on satan,

Everything is for a purpose don't you think God would want us to be this way no...

Smite full, lying, cheating and pride we have all comitted sins even if we are an "upstanding" Christians we have all sinned and we will always continue to sin Because guess what guys we are human's as much as we would hate to admit it,

Maybe some of you in a past life or even this life have done something so terrible and you try to hide it with Christianity, believing things from the past will go away guess what they wont.

And by the way ghosts are real sometimes with the intention of good sometimes for the intention of bad, Demons if you were dealing with a demon you would be dead yes thats right dead,
Some of you should look at yourself's and maybe you will see what the real demon is!

The only reason why we have rapists, murders and arseholes of society is beacuse they were raised that way, yes don't blame the devil blame yourself your children reflect on who you are.

Another point the bible contradicts itself "god is all love or god is smite ful" he cant be both, i mean the bible was written 1000 years after jesus died, trying putting a group of people in a room and play chinese whispers for thirty minutes with message are you going to get that same message back well you tell me,
The bible had been re written over centuries and now we have the final copy but is still being rewritten.

By the way yes i am Christian no i am not a freaking demon and i do belive in God

Oh and let me ask if a burglar came into your house stealing your stuff and he turns to you and says "don't worry i'm Christian" what would you do?

By the way who ever bands me is a kiddy didler

Can I get a refund on the 2 cents. I did not find any of this useful or praising the Lord.

[looking4mybrain]

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Well as i am new to this forum i have read some of the articles and quite frankly i am appalled to even be called a Christian,

Most of you are constantly judging people, hell i even read one of the article where a kid tried to commit suicide and blaming it on "demons",
did you ever think that the kids life was soooo shite and he needed help did anybody even think of that, noo!.

Another article i read was about Adhd and bipolar kids, did you even stop to think that they wanted to be this way mabey there whole life time they have been good, clean pure in this life and the previous one,
But no its because there "evil"
bull shit maybe you are the ones being evil blaming everything on satan,

Everything is for a purpose don't you think God would want us to be this way no...

Smite full, lying, cheating and pride we have all comitted sins even if we are an "upstanding" Christians we have all sinned and we will always continue to sin Because guess what guys we are human's as much as we would hate to admit it,

Maybe some of you in a past life or even this life have done something so terrible and you try to hide it with Christianity, believing things from the past will go away guess what they wont.

And by the way ghosts are real sometimes with the intention of good sometimes for the intention of bad, Demons if you were dealing with a demon you would be dead yes thats right dead,
Some of you should look at yourself's and maybe you will see what the real demon is!

The only reason why we have rapists, murders and arseholes of society is beacuse they were raised that way, yes don't blame the devil blame yourself your children reflect on who you are.

Another point the bible contradicts itself "god is all love or god is smite ful" he cant be both, i mean the bible was written 1000 years after jesus died, trying putting a group of people in a room and play chinese whispers for thirty minutes with message are you going to get that same message back well you tell me,
The bible had been re written over centuries and now we have the final copy but is still being rewritten.

By the way yes i am Christian no i am not a freaking demon and i do belive in God

Oh and let me ask if a burglar came into your house stealing your stuff and he turns to you and says "don't worry i'm Christian" what would you do?

By the way who ever bands me is a kiddy didler

agreed

[qwerty1]

Re: My 2 cents

I'm going to try to respond to this rant.

Thank you for at least inserting paragraph breaks; we usually get Walls of Text.

Then you probably aren't one. My guess is you're a Catholic, or perhaps a liberal false Christian who ignores the Bible for your "feelings".

Actually i am, i have just got my own views about what god would want from us, and how he intends to live our lives.
.

If he had turned to God, or to his Pastor, he'd have gotten help. Did he? No. Why?

Maybe because he felt like no body was listening to him and maybe he did try and seek help but mabey people were just ignoring him or giving the wrong advice may i also add have you ever had depression because it its not a "lifestyle" choice we are born with it and we dont ask for it.

Another article i read was about Adhd and bipolar kids, did you even stop to think that they wanted to be this way
Nope, I can't say I ever thought a kid wanted to be bipolar or have ADHD. So, you're saying it's a lifestyle choice, and we shouldn't try to help them find Jesus?

Again with the lifestyle choice we do not ask for it and people do have different ways of asking for help but again we are born with it consider yourself lucky

Truth is we would give anything not to have these defects on us and belive me i have tried everything to get rid of my adhd but again we are stuck with it

so you believe in Karma, eh? Tell me all about karma, why don't you?

Yes yes i do dont you?

Once becoming Christian, we are washed free of sin and no longer capable of sinning. Do you continue to sin? Then you are no True Christian™.

That is not true whether you no it or not we still do sin pride, envy, gluttony, lust, anger, greed and sloth ow tell me you dont do some of those from time to time

Please show me where the Bible suggests in any way that we have "past lives" or "reincarnations".

I knew you were no Christian.

So what all there is and a heaven and a hell tell me how many people die with unfinished business, and what about some of those people who die but still dont know it. now tell me would you walk away of something of great importance, and how do we know what happens in the after life and yes i am a christian.


And by the way ghosts are real sometimes with the intention of good sometimes for the intention of bad, Demons if you were dealing with a demon you would be dead yes thats right dead,
Um, no.

Ummm yes what do you think demons the are hell rid in evil creatures that oly want one thing blood, as i said before how about those people who have unfinished business also do you have proof that there are no ghosts

The Bible makes it crystal clear that the dead are unknowing until the Resurrection at Judgment. There are no "ghosts" of dead people wandering about. There are only demons impersonating dead people.

But why would they they can do anything they want , the only reason why they would impersonated a dead person is to ruin your life, but with my experience demons and ghosts are as real as you and me,
I have experiences of being in contact with demons and ghost but believe me you have it wrong about demons.
And i can tell you both want very very different things

The only reason why we have rapists, murders and arseholes of society is beacuse they were raised that way, yes don't blame the devil blame yourself your children reflect on who you are.
So, if that's the case, we should be executing not just serial killers, but also their parents and teachers. Right?

Wrong children that get brought up in broken down homes start taking there experiences out on the world, The parents who raise them have probably done something that has scared them from life, and they end up taking it out on other people

Another point the bible contradicts itself "god is all love or god is smite ful" he cant be both,
Um, could you show me that verse?

There is no verse saying that in fact i was giving an example

The Bible does not say that God loves everybody. It describes in intimate detail whom He hates, in fact. It would help if you bothered to READ it before trying to tell people what it says.

So who does god love and who does he hate then what jews, blacks or the chinese the last time i checked were all the same, Some just have different views

i mean the bible was written 1000 years after jesus died,
Citation needed.
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By the way yes i am Christian no i am not a freaking demon and i do belive in God
No, you're not. And no, you don't.

Christian buddy sorry to dissapoint

Ok then tell me who god is who is he then?

[BelieverInGod]

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By the way who ever bands me is a kiddy didler

That there alone tells me you're lying about being a Christian.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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by the way it's not hatred its freedom of speech look it up

First of all, this is NOT a debate forum. Please read THIS thread before making an even bigger fool of yourself.

Secondly, while the internets might seem to be "free" to you, this particular corner of the internets is a privately owned Christian forum. The rights you have on this forum are listed HERE. Please contact a Pastor immediately if you feel that any of your rights have been violated.

Finally, your unsaved opinions or tantrums are not even slightly of interest to us. We follow the Holy Word of God TO THE LETTER, and make no apologies for that. One of the most important commandments in the Bible tells us to avoid unsaved scum such as yourself. You wandered in here uninvited, and unwelcome .

[qwerty1]

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cool story actually the only reason i came to this site was because of a statement that was made about one kid in particular who's pretty much got shut down when he needed help and the only reason i came to this site was to try and help people open there eyes and start acting like humans and by the way i do not appreciate being called scum.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I see you didn't figure out how to use the quote feature.

Actually i am, i have just got my own views about what god would want from us, and how he intends to live our lives.

Why do you have your own views? God gave us the Bible. It says what He wants. Making up your own ideas is ignoring God's Word.

Again with the lifestyle choice we do not ask for it and people do have different ways of asking for help but again we are born with it consider yourself lucky

You asked if we'd considered that the kids wanted to be that way. I said I never thought a kid wanted to have ADHD or bipolar disorder.

YOU suggested they were lifestyle choices, not me.

Yes yes i do [believe in Karma], dont you?

No.

Karma is a Hindu and later Buddhist concept. It is not a Christian concept. Let me tell you all about Karma:

Karma requires an intelligence to record your deeds and respond with reward or punishment. Basically, you believe in a cosmic Santa Claus, who is keeping a list and checking it twice. More likely twice per second for each human, animal, bacterium, and plant.

What's Karma?

Here, I'll use a resource you'll respect: http://www.skepdic.com/karma.html

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Karma is a law in Hinduism which maintains that every act done, no matter how insignificant, will eventually return to the doer with equal impact. Good will be returned with good; evil with evil. Since Hindus believe in reincarnation, karma knows no simple birth/death boundaries. If good or evil befall you, it is because of something you did in this or a previous lifetime.

Quote:

Karma is sometimes referred to as a "moral law of cause and effect." Karma is both an encouragement to do good and to avoid evil, as well as an explanation for whatever good or evil befalls a person.

On one level, karma serves to explain why good things happen to bad people and bad things happen to good people. The injustices of the world, the seeming random distribution of good and evil, are only apparent. In reality, everybody is getting what he or she deserves. Even the child brutalized by drugged adults deserves the horror. The mentally ill, the retarded, the homosexuals, and the millions of Jews killed by the Nazis deserved it for evil they must have done in the past. The slave beaten to within a breath of death deserved it, if not for what he did today, then for what he did in some previous lifetime. Likewise for the rape victim. She is just getting what she deserves. All suffering is deserved, according to the law of karma.

So, according to your belief in Karma, you should never help the mentally ill, or Jews, or homosexuals, or the sick, or the poor. As the Skeptic's Dictionary plainly states, homosexuals are homosexual and the mentally ill are mentally ill because they did bad things in a prior life and are getting what they deserve. Toddlers dying of dysentery-induced diarrhea (basically, shitting themselves to death) because they lack clean water, or born addicted to crack or with AIDS or blinded by Mommy's gonorrhea infection deserve it, because of bad karma. They did something bad in a "prior life".

That's what you believe in.

Karma is also the foundation of the Hindu caste system. You are born to a caste, as the result of your "past lives". You can only rise to a higher caste by accepting "your place in life" and being a very good Untouchable, the lowest form of human, relegated to scrubbing toilets and hauling garbage no matter how intelligent or talented you might be. Are you an uppity Untouchable? You may be reborn as a dog! Are you an ill-tempered dog? Next time you may be a cockroach!

I hope you will be a very good cockroach, because the next step down may be dung beetle.

Karma is merely a method for social control; do you think it a coincidence that the Brahmins, the top of the caste pyramid, are the wealthiest and control the priesthood?

That is not true whether you no it or not we still do sin pride, envy, gluttony, lust, anger, greed and sloth ow tell me you dont do some of those from time to time

Nope. What part of "not able to sin" don't you understand?

Oh, right. You have never read the Bible. Here:

1 John 3

6 Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.

7 Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

So what all there is and a heaven and a hell tell me how many people die with unfinished business, and what about some of those people who die but still dont know it. now tell me would you walk away of something of great importance, and how do we know what happens in the after life and yes i am a christian.

"Unfinished business"? "Don't know it"? Nonsense. Dead is dead.

Ecclesiastes 9

5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun.

DEAD IS DEAD, Sparky.

Ummm yes what do you think demons the are hell rid in evil creatures that oly want one thing blood, as i said before how about those people who have unfinished business also do you have proof that there are no ghosts

Where did you get this nonsense? There is not a word in the Bible about "demons only wanting blood". You've been playing too many video games.

First of all, Hell is a vast lake of fire. That's it.

Satan doesn't "rule" it and mete out ironic punishments. Humans, demons, Satan himself will all be cast into the Lake of Fire at judgment, where they will all burn for ever and ever, with no chance of escape, too late to repent, and unable to die.

But why would they they can do anything they want , the only reason why they would impersonated a dead person is to ruin your life, but with my experience demons and ghosts are as real as you and me,
I have experiences of being in contact with demons and ghost but believe me you have it wrong about demons.

You said earlier that you can only contact demons when dead. How much time have you spent dead, exactly?

You may have contacted demons, but as I demonstrated above, there are no such things as ghosts.

Wrong children that get brought up in broken down homes start taking there experiences out on the world, The parents who raise them have probably done something that has scared them from life, and they end up taking it out on other people

So then the parents should be punished, right?

There is no verse saying that in fact i was giving an example

You gave an example of the Bible contradicting itself, then made up something to be your example?!

So who does god love and who does he hate then what jews, blacks or the chinese the last time i checked were all the same, Some just have different views

He hates all who do not obey His Commands. He expresses that perfect hatred by raising them from the dead at Judgment so He can cast them into the Lake of Fire and TORTURE THEM FOREVER instead of just leaving them DEAD and UNKNOWING.

Get it yet? If "ghosts" were wandering about, there would be no need to resurrect them at judgment, now would there?

Christian buddy sorry to dissapoint

You're not a Christian. You have never read the Bible, and you make up your own god. You worship your own imagination. Christians follow the Word of God, not whatever they like at the moment.

Ok then tell me who god is who is he then?

The all-powerful creator of the universe who has laid out over 600 COMMANDMENTS (not suggestions, not requests, but COMMANDMENTS) for us to follow, and who demands that we worship Him and only Him as He commands. He came to Earth in human form and died temporarily (a long weekend) as the Ultimate Sacrifice. This ended the need for animal sacrifices, but not the need to follow the Law.

Those who follow His Commands without question are rewarded with His Unconditional Love. They get to go to Heaven and worship and praise Him for all eternity, assuming they continue to follow His Commands without question. Everyone else spends eternity being burned alive in Hell.

[Master Gordon]

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cool story actually the only reason i came to this site was because of a statement that was made about one kid in particular who's pretty much got shut down when he needed help and the only reason i came to this site was to try and help people open there eyes and start acting like humans and by the way i do not appreciate being called scum.

If you don't appreciate being called scum then don't come here you dirty little piece of unsaved scum.