[Nobar King]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I am not a sodomite, actually I'm technically a virgin. (I'm female)

No wonder you don't have a job, yet.

[Levi Jones]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

You want us to "prove" God exists without the Bible. You should prove God does not exist forgetting every book you have ever read, every lecture you have ever heard and every thing you have been taught by your so called teachers.

I suppose I could say that the Bible is true because people have been working on it for 6000 years. Over 3/4ths of its prophecies have already come to pass.

Your theories, not so much..

[James Hutchins]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

A Double Masters? If it's in the field of anything to do with the bible, I am unimpressed. Studying ONE book doesn't make you educated.

No, one in Business /Finance and one in Organic Chemistry. Again, you sly insults do not go unnoticed. See my last comment here.

Proof that god did not make the Earth and the universe? Alright, I'll name them in point form for if I am to describe each one, this post will be to long to read, though perhaps long enough to publish as a novel (Of which there have been MANY)

-Dinosaurs and fossils
-Carbon dating
-Appendixes (which are no longer needed because we have EVOLVED, rendering them unnessicary)
-Mutations (A series of which is what we call EVOLUTION)
-Background radiation
-Stars and Galaxies
-Stellar drift

To name a FEW. I can provide you with links if needed.

No good, sorry.
Being you refuse to accept the Bible as any sort of proof of God, neither can I accept any sort of written works that purport to substantiate your claims. 'Theories' are mere educated guess and get completely refuted daily with new 'theories'.
I have never seen a dinosaur, I have seen fossils of ferns, but that means little.
I have never seen the date of carbon.
Background radiation means nothing. Unless the 'theories' are what you go by.
And so on and so on.

Yes this is a debate

No, you are making it into a debate. Did you even read the title of this section on OUR website? Going against forum rules will not be tolerated.

Yes pompous and boorish are insults

Not when they are factual. you need to re-read what you write. It could also explain why no one wants to hire you.

and YES you made mention of the bible by stating god made the world.

What I am saying is that there is no PROOF of this OTHER THEN THE BIBLE'S WORDS.
Would you like to try and provide some?

No, I made no mention of the Bible. I stated the world exists and therefore had to be made by God. Lying does not go well on the Internet or during job interviews.
Have you never looked out side? Into the eyes of an infant? I'd say a loved one but I can tell that is pointless.

[Barks a Lot]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Not even a "please", you barge into a Christian church's private discussion forum, uninvited and unwelcome, and make demands as though you have authority here.

Why is it you atheists have no manners whatsoever? Were you raised in a trailer, perhaps? Or was it more a barn? By wolves, maybe?

Atheists have no manners? I can't count the number of times that I have been openly bashed by Christians for being gay. Tell you the truth, I find that atheists are very polite, at least most of the ones I know.

[James Hutchins]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Atheists have no manners? I can't count the number of times that I have been openly bashed by Christians for being gay. Tell you the truth, I find that atheists are very polite, at least most of the ones I know.

That is because they are all homers like you and are afraid of people not liking them. True Christians(tm) never worry about that because God loves us.

[villainy]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

No, one in Business /Finance and one in Organic Chemistry. Again, you sly insults do not go unnoticed. See my last comment here.


No good, sorry.
Being you refuse to accept the Bible as any sort of proof of God, neither can I accept any sort of written works that purport to substantiate your claims. 'Theories' are mere educated guess and get completely refuted daily with new 'theories'.
I have never seen a dinosaur, I have seen fossils of ferns, but that means little.
I have never seen the date of carbon.
Background radiation means nothing. Unless the 'theories' are what you go by.
And so on and so on.


No, you are making it into a debate. Did you even read the title of this section on OUR website? Going against forum rules will not be tolerated.

Not when they are factual. you need to re-read what you write. It could also explain why no one wants to hire you.

No, I made no mention of the Bible. I stated the world exists and therefore had to be made by God. Lying does not go well on the Internet or during job interviews.
Have you never looked out side? Into the eyes of an infant? I'd say a loved one but I can tell that is pointless.

I hate to say it, but If you refuse to take the visual proof that we have of the big bang and evolution, an argument with you wouldn't be worth anyone's time.

[Marshall]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

You should hang out with atheist faggots so when you go to Hell you have someone to talk to.

[Samuel Coleridge]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Atheists have no manners? I can't count the number of times that I have been openly bashed by Christians for being gay.

That's terrible! When and where did these things take place?

I feel horrible for you.

Yours in the kinder side of Christ,
Sam

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Atheists have no manners? I can't count the number of times that I have been openly bashed by Christians for being gay. Tell you the truth, I find that atheists are very polite, at least most of the ones I know.

It's a shame you can't follow their lead.

Most Christians -- True Christians(tm), anyway -- will warn you that your deathstyle choice will lead to eternal damnation. That's not "bashing" you, that's warning you of the peril in which you place yourself with your choices.

That's called love. They don't want you to suffer in Hell for eternity.

I hate to say it, but If you refuse to take the visual proof that we have of the big bang and evolution, an argument with you wouldn't be worth anyone's time.

Big Bang: God said, "Let there be light!" The universe started at that one point and has expanded ever since. GOD'S LIGHT WAS THE BIG BANG.

But you atheists prefer to believe that all the matter of the universe was compressed into a tiny ball which exploded all by itself for no apparent reason.

Evolution: Please show the evidence of one species evolving into another species. Not moths being "naturally selected" for color, and not a variety of domesticated dogs. Those are microevolution. Show the evidence of macroevolution.

[Lisa H]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I AM a woman.
When I say there is no man who's words I trust, what I mean to say is that there is no member of mankind who's words I trust, which includes women.
Not only this, but the reason you believe in god is because of the bible, which was written by four MEN.

Why do you have trust issues? You cannot trust what either a man or a woman tells. Then who do you trust.

The Bible was written by "four men". It has been written by many people over centuries, which has became a single book called the Bible.

As much as it pains me to say this, but Imam Rashik has provided to you that the God exists in other Books other than the Bible.

[James Hutchins]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I hate to say it, but If you refuse to take the visual proof that we have of the big bang and evolution, an argument with you wouldn't be worth anyone's time.

Please, I never saw a 'big bang' , nor has anyone I know or ever heard of. It is yet another absurd 'theory' a wishful guess.
Neither have I see or heard of anyone witnessing 'evolution'.

I have and do every day, witness Gods Majesty.

[James Hutchins]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Looks like the OP ran home because the Truth(c) of God came to her.

Praise Jesus!

[Jesus is Lord]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I hate to say it, but If you refuse to take the visual proof that we have of the big bang and evolution, an argument with you wouldn't be worth anyone's time.

What proof of the big bang is there? I'll tell you what the "Big Bang" was (or read my signature): God spoke and, BANG, the universe was formed.

I've never seen or heard of actual proof of evolution. I've never seen any animal evolve into another animal. On the other hand, there is plenty of proof evolution is false all over this site.

[James Hutchins]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

What proof of the big bang is there? I'll tell you what the "Big Bang" was (or read my signature): God spoke and, BANG, the universe was formed.

I've never seen or heard of actual proof of evolution. I've never seen any animal evolve into another animal. On the other hand, there is plenty of proof evolution is false all over this site.

You know, this reminds me when I was a boy, my parents often took me to the Bronx zoo.
Every year, we went to the monkey house. Every year, the same monkeys. Not once had any of those monkeys disappeared and been replaced by a man.

[bloodraven]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I'm homosexual, Athiest, and have a PHD in Astrophysics (although I know you have no idea what that is.)

So, nice to meet you all, however much I know I will get flamed.

Next up! Now we've done the introduction I have a question for you all.

PROVE the existence of God WITHOUT referencing the Bible. The Bible, as important as it is, carries absolutly NO PROOF OF GOD TO ME WHATSOEVER. Anyone trying to quote the Bible will be promptly ignored.
Then, if you manage to do that:
-prove to me without use of the bible that the earth is flat.

And finally, the biggest question of all....
..If the devil can speak to people the same way God can, how can you know that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not actually hearing Satan's words and mistaking them for Gods?

ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS WITHOUT REFERENCING THE BIBLE AT ALL. This will be a challenge for you, I know.

Watch Ancient Aliens from Discovery Channel, this can be found on You Tube. Even if god isn't a super natural being, he does exist in us all as we are all parts of him; though in my practice of magic, God has no gender to refer too, nor does this energy source have consciousness, it's the force that drives the universe, pure energy. The Bible God is something I know almost nothing about, but he's clearly a vindictive, racist, sexist monster.

Earth is a sphere, the easiest shape to produce in nature. Gravity is based on mass and proximity to the mass. Being on the surface of the Earth, you always feel that your upright, no matter where you stand. If the Earth was flat, and gravity beneath it, the air we breath would flow over the side and be lost to space; the same would happen to the oceans. There are people who travel around the world who can contest that the Earth is spherical in shape. Take a airplane west, from San Francisco, and keep going west, eventually you'll land in New York.

Another way to prove the Earth is sphere would be GPS. If the Earth is flat, satellites would have to be held up by rockets forever, or until the fuel runs out. An object in orbit is falling around the Earth. The arch of a thrown object if projected far enough would never hit the ground, but circle the Earth instead. Therefore no correct answer can prove a flat Earth. The sphere of the Earth can be seen in the townships of the Midwest States. On a Flat Earth, the north-south and east-west grids of the counties would match from Texas to the Dakotas which they do not.