[Levi Jones]

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Give me a response about the descent from david.

John 7

41Others said, This is the Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee?
42Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?
43So there was a division among the people because of him.
44And some of them would have taken him; but no man laid hands on him.
45Then came the officers to the chief priests and Pharisees; and they said unto them, Why have ye not brought him?
46The officers answered, Never man spake like this man.
47Then answered them the Pharisees, Are ye also deceived?
48Have any of the rulers or of the Pharisees believed on him?
49But this people who knoweth not the law are cursed.
50Nicodemus saith unto them, (he that came to Jesus by night, being one of them,)
51Doth our law judge any man, before it hear him, and know what he doeth?
52They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet.

[matthew!]

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You've proven nothing. You asserted that Jesus denounced the Old Testament. Prove it.

And please do not discuss your watersports fetish here. This is a Christian church forum. We are not interested in your bizarre sexual practices.

I mean the donkey that mary rode. Thats a filthy mind you have there for a christian..

I just stated in my previous post that i was taking the piss about that.

Now tell me, how can Jesus be the messiah if he isnt a descendant of King David

[Levi Jones]

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How do you people believe the world is flat?

Because the Bible says so.

[Lisa H]

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And another thing.. what happened to the donkey?

Nice to know you care about donkeys, but why would this be important.

[matthew!]

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Because the Bible says so.

Typical Christian response. Im trying to have a discussion. I openly say if you can prove Christianity I will accept Jesus and your response is "Because the bible says so."

Next thing you'll tell me is dinosaurs wernt real.

& @ Lisa its just a bit of curiosity. Id say maybe its the same one Jesus rode into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday but it was a Colt.

[Levi Jones]

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I mean the donkey that mary rode. Thats a filthy mind you have there for a christian..

I just stated in my previous post that i was taking the piss about that.

Now tell me, how can Jesus be the messiah if he isnt a descendant of King David

He is a descendant of David.

Luke 3

23And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
25Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,
26Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,
27Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,
28Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,
29Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,
30Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,
31Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
32Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,
33Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
34Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,
35Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,
36Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,
37Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

[Levi Jones]

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Next thing you'll tell me is dinosaurs wernt real.

Of course not. The Bible mentions them along with leviathan and unicorns. They are quite real.

Job 40
15Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox.
16Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly.
17He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together.
18His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron.
19He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him.
20Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play.
21He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens.
22The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about.
23Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth.
24He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares.

[matthew!]

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He is a descendant of David.

Luke 3

23And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
24Which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi, which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Janna, which was the son of Joseph,
25Which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Amos, which was the son of Naum, which was the son of Esli, which was the son of Nagge,
26Which was the son of Maath, which was the son of Mattathias, which was the son of Semei, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Juda,
27Which was the son of Joanna, which was the son of Rhesa, which was the son of Zorobabel, which was the son of Salathiel, which was the son of Neri,
28Which was the son of Melchi, which was the son of Addi, which was the son of Cosam, which was the son of Elmodam, which was the son of Er,
29Which was the son of Jose, which was the son of Eliezer, which was the son of Jorim, which was the son of Matthat, which was the son of Levi,
30Which was the son of Simeon, which was the son of Juda, which was the son of Joseph, which was the son of Jonan, which was the son of Eliakim,
31Which was the son of Melea, which was the son of Menan, which was the son of Mattatha, which was the son of Nathan, which was the son of David,
32Which was the son of Jesse, which was the son of Obed, which was the son of Booz, which was the son of Salmon, which was the son of Naasson,
33Which was the son of Aminadab, which was the son of Aram, which was the son of Esrom, which was the son of Phares, which was the son of Juda,
34Which was the son of Jacob, which was the son of Isaac, which was the son of Abraham, which was the son of Thara, which was the son of Nachor,
35Which was the son of Saruch, which was the son of Ragau, which was the son of Phalec, which was the son of Heber, which was the son of Sala,
36Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,
37Which was the son of Mathusala, which was the son of Enoch, which was the son of Jared, which was the son of Maleleel, which was the son of Cainan,
38Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was the son of Adam, which was the son of God.

And thats where the bible is wrong. VIRGIN Mary. This means Joseph was not involved in conception. Meaning he isnt his father, meaning he is no blood relation to Jesus, so Jesus isnt a descendant. Simple.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I mean the donkey that mary rode. Thats a filthy mind you have there for a christian..

I just stated in my previous post that i was taking the piss about that.

Now tell me, how can Jesus be the messiah if he isnt a descendant of King David

"Taking the piss" is a reference to watersports. As I already stated, we are not interested in your depraved fetishes.

Typical Christian response. Im trying to have a discussion. I openly say if you can prove Christianity I will accept Jesus and your response is "Because the bible says so."

You also made up lies about what the Bible said and felt it important to inform us, in mixed company no less, that you like "taking urine". Do you really think anyone here believes you have any serious interest about learning about God?

The only way you can objectively know about God or Jesus is to Read The Book. Yes. The Bible Says So is our answer. Try reading it instead of lying about what it says.

Next thing you'll tell me is dinosaurs wernt real.

Why would we say that? They are mentioned a number of times in the Bible.

[Lisa H]

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Typical Christian response. Im trying to have a discussion. I openly say if you can prove Christianity I will accept Jesus and your response is "Because the bible says so."

Next thing you'll tell me is dinosaurs wernt real.

& @ Lisa its just a bit of curiosity. Id say maybe its the same one Jesus rode into Jerusalem on Palm Sunday but it was a Colt.

Dinosaurs could not fit on the Noah's Ark.

I do believe they were different donkeys.

[jamesc1231]

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We do have the right to judge, but are we any better?
You would be the first to throw the stone because in John when Christ asks whoever has no sin cast the first stone, you would be the one to come before Him and say, "I have no sin." We are perfect because of what Christ has done for us and only because of that.

We are still sinners but not sinners who continue to sin. To say so would mean, you have never thought a bad thought, cursed, or lied or any such after you were saved? I highly doubt that.

And I don't understand, how do you hope in bringing people to Christ?
If you have not love, what do you have?
Do you truly say everything you say because you sincerely, from the bottom of you heart, "love" them?

Truthfully, I see many Pharisees who know everything but do not know the real Jesus. I do not judge you, or anyone, but these are things to consider.
I am not perfect and I have trouble being a Pharisee sometimes, being quick to judge and condemn people.

Christ loves all and it is our duty to love and be the faith with action and in deed. Not just all talk.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Christ loves all and it is our duty to love and be the faith with action and in deed. Not just all talk.

"Jesus does not hate anyone."

That's not true. God hates the sin AND the sinner, and Jesus is God (John 10:30 I and my Father are one.).

Lev 20:23 And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nation, which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.

Hosea 9:15 All their wickedness is in Gilgal: for there I hated them: for the wickedness of their doings I will drive them out of mine house, I will love them no more: all their princes are revolters.

Please read the WHOLE Bible before it's too late.

Before you complain about the the fact that the verses I cited were from the Old Testament, as if that somehow makes them worthless, consider this:

In the Old Testament, it says that God hates "all workers of iniquity" (Ps 5:5).

In the New Testament, what does Jesus say that he is going to do to these workers of iniquity? Is he going to love them? Is he going to be their pal, and tell them that it's ok to be themselves? Let's see...

Matt 13:41-42 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

I pray that you have found this enlightening.

[jamesc1231]

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Yes those Scripture is true and I have read them.
But you were no different at one point either.
You were hated by God at one point because you were a worker of iniquity, just as I was at one point.

But what saved you? His hatred towards you or His love?
What is your goal when talking to people?
Like I asked before, do you truly love people when you speak with them, from the bottom of your heart? A genuine breaking heart for people in need of a Savior?

Do we seek to follow a religion, or a relationship?
We are no longer bound by the law but through Christ we are set free!
This is the good news, that He sent His Son to die for you and me, when we didn't deserve it! This is the amazing love we live for is it not?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Yes those Scripture is true and I have read them.
But you were no different at one point either.
You were hated by God at one point because you were a worker of iniquity, just as I was at one point.

But what saved you? His hatred towards you or His love?
What is your goal when talking to people?
Like I asked before, do you truly love people when you speak with them, from the bottom of your heart? A genuine breaking heart for people in need of a Savior?

Do we seek to follow a religion, or a relationship?
We are no longer bound by the law but through Christ we are set free!
This is the good news, that He sent His Son to die for you and me, when we didn't deserve it! This is the amazing love we live for is it not?

Boy, your point was that "Christ doesn't hate anyone." That's a lie. If you believe that, then you are no Christian.

Besides, there are no such thing as a communist Christian.

[Levi Jones]

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Yes those Scripture is true and I have read them.
But you were no different at one point either.
You were hated by God at one point because you were a worker of iniquity, just as I was at one point.

Really? I was under the impression we were okay until inequity was found in us much like the nation of Israel.

Ezekiel 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.

But what saved you? His hatred towards you or His love?

My fear saved me as it should any rational person.

Proverbs 1:7 The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

What is your goal when talking to people?

To teach the Word.

Like I asked before, do you truly love people when you speak with them, from the bottom of your heart? A genuine breaking heart for people in need of a Savior?

Why should we warble and wail like women? The LORD is a man of war.

Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

Do we seek to follow a religion, or a relationship?

We are bound to follow the Word, not our feelings.

Matthew 12:50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

We are no longer bound by the law but through Christ we are set free!

Matthew 22:37-39 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
This is the first and great commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Where did Jesus get those sayings from?

Deuteronomy 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.

Leviticus 19:17-18 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.
18Thou shalt not avenge, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

What did Jesus say when Satan tried to tempt Him?

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

Where did Jesus get that from?

Deuteronomy 8:3 And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live.

So tell me where Jesus came to abolish the law?

As lain out in Matthew 5? Perhaps you have read it.

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

This is the good news, that He sent His Son to die for you and me, when we didn't deserve it! This is the amazing love we live for is it not?

Indeed it is, but I cannot wish you godspeed, since you do not bring the true doctrine into this house.


2 John 1:10-11 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.