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  • jeremy72
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    • Nov 2010
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    #1

    Why are so many christians conservatives?

    what does being a christian have to do with cutting taxes, cutting welfare, cutting SS, cutting medicaid, deregulation, free trade, etc? Explain to me why you are a christian conservative.
  • Rev. M. Rodimer
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    • May 2008
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    #2
    Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

    Originally posted by jeremy72 View Post
    what does being a christian have to do with cutting taxes, cutting welfare, cutting SS, cutting medicaid, deregulation, free trade, etc? Explain to me why you are a christian conservative.
    Why would Christians support taking by force the earnings of one to give to another who refuses to work? Do you think stealing is a good thing?

    You do realize that Christian conservatism is focused primarily on social issues, don't you? Enforcing God's Law, banning abortion, banning homosexuality, teaching the Bible in schools, reinstating Christian prayer in schools, ending divorce and bastardism?
    Bible boring? Nonsense!
    Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
    You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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    • Pastor Ezekiel
      Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
       
      • Sep 2006
      • 78556

      #3
      Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

      Originally posted by jeremy72 View Post
      what does being a christian have to do with cutting taxes, cutting welfare, cutting SS, cutting medicaid, deregulation, free trade, etc? Explain to me why you are a christian conservative.
      Because Jesus is a Rebublican.

      Now, can you explain why your spelling, grammar and punctuation are so piss-poor?

      Why are you even here? This is a Christian forum.
      Who Will Jesus Damn?

      Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

      Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

      Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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      • jeremy72
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        #4
        Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

        The bible condones slavery, it condones looting of cities, why not? Taxes are nothing compared to those things. Do you think slavery and looting of cities is a good thing? What about banning shrimp? In the same book that talks about homosexuality they mention that eating shrimp is an abomination. Why aren't you christians seeking to ban shrimp? And you think it's wrong for the govt to impose taxes but it's right to impose religion?? How the hell does that make any sense?
        Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
        Why would Christians support taking by force the earnings of one to give to another who refuses to work? Do you think stealing is a good thing?

        You do realize that Christian conservatism is focused primarily on social issues, don't you? Enforcing God's Law, banning abortion, banning homosexuality, teaching the Bible in schools, reinstating Christian prayer in schools, ending divorce and bastardism?

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        • jeremy72
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          Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

          Peacemaking, not War Making: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] The Death Penalty: Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21] Corporate Greed and the Religion of Wealth: You cannot serve both God and Money. [Matthew 6:24.] Paying Taxes & Separation of Church & State: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. [Matthew 22:21] Community: Love your neighbor as yourself. .[Matthew 22:39] If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. [Matthew 19:21] Equality & Social Programs: But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. [Luke 14:13 &14.]
          Originally posted by Pastor Ezekiel View Post
          Because Jesus is a Rebublican.

          Now, can you explain why your spelling, grammar and punctuation are so piss-poor?

          Why are you even here? This is a Christian forum.

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          • Oakland "Reb" Griner
            True Christian™
            True Christian™
            • Jun 2009
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            #6
            Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

            Why are so many Christians conservatives?

            So many ?


            LOL, they ALL are.

            Being a liberal means you are NOT a Christian.

            If you are a Christian, you are a conservative.





            A related question for you to try to wrap your tiny brain around:

            How many left handed people are right handed?

            See how that works? Just like there are no right handed left handed people, so too, there are no liberal Christian people.

            Not a one. Not a single solitary liberal is a Christian. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.


            The concept I am trying to convey here is that amongst a group of 1 million liberals, not one, not a single one will be a True Christian. And if you went through every single member of Landover Baptist, you would not find a single liberal. Not a single one.


            And that is how it should be.



            Jesus smiles upon our endeavor.





            Jud 1:15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are unGodly among them of all their unGodly deeds which they have unGodly committed, and of all their hard [speeches] which unGodly sinners have spoken against him.

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            • Rev. M. Rodimer
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              • May 2008
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              #7
              Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

              Originally posted by jeremy72 View Post
              The bible condones slavery, it condones looting of cities, why not? Taxes are nothing compared to those things. Do you think slavery and looting of cities is a good thing?
              When commanded by God, of course. By definition, anything commanded by God is good.

              What about banning shrimp? In the same book that talks about homosexuality they mention that eating shrimp is an abomination. Why aren't you christians seeking to ban shrimp?
              Because Jesus informed us that the dietary laws were not of concern. If you read the Bible, you'd know this.

              And you think it's wrong for the govt to impose taxes but it's right to impose religion?? How the hell does that make any sense?
              God directs us to separate ourselves from those who do not follow Him, and to destroy those who worship other gods. That's how it makes sense.

              I also never said it was wrong for the government to impose taxes. I said that Christians do not support taking the earnings of one by force to distribute to someone else who refuses to work. There is a difference.

              Christians also object to having their earnings confiscated by the government to be used to murder pre-born children and to indoctrinate children in anti-Christian Darwinism in the schools.

              You really should read the Bible before trying to tell us what it says or what makes sense.
              Bible boring? Nonsense!
              Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
              You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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              • jeremy72
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                • Nov 2010
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                #8
                Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

                Can I get a response from someone more intelligent than this guy?
                Originally posted by Oakland "Reb" Griner View Post
                Why are so many Christians conservatives?

                So many ?


                LOL, they ALL are.

                Being a liberal means you are NOT a Christian.

                If you are a Christian, you are a conservative.





                A related question for you to try to wrap your tiny brain around:

                How many left handed people are right handed?

                See how that works? Just like there are no right handed left handed people, so too, there are no liberal Christian people.

                Not a one. Not a single solitary liberal is a Christian. None. Zero. Zilch. Nada.


                The concept I am trying to convey here is that amongst a group of 1 million liberals, not one, not a single one will be a True Christian. And if you went through every single member of Landover Baptist, you would not find a single liberal. Not a single one.


                And that is how it should be.



                Jesus smiles upon our endeavor.





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                • Rev. M. Rodimer
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                  • May 2008
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                  #9
                  Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

                  Originally posted by jeremy72 View Post
                  Peacemaking, not War Making: Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God. [Matthew 5:9] The Death Penalty: Thou shalt not kill [Matthew 5:21] Corporate Greed and the Religion of Wealth: You cannot serve both God and Money. [Matthew 6:24.] Paying Taxes & Separation of Church & State: Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's. [Matthew 22:21] Community: Love your neighbor as yourself. .[Matthew 22:39] If you would be perfect, go, sell what you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. [Matthew 19:21] Equality & Social Programs: But when you give a feast, invite the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind, and you will be blessed, because they cannot repay you. You will be repaid at the resurrection of the just. [Luke 14:13 &14.]
                  That's some nice cut and paste there. I see you've been to "jesusisaliberal.org".

                  Are you capable of your own thoughts, or do you have to steal everything? You do realize plagiarism is stealing, right, and that stealing is sin? You don't even bother to read the verses you are cutting-and-pasting in context to understand them; for example, Matthew 22 has nothing to do with "separation of church and state", but the Pharisees trying to trick Jesus into condemning the payment of tribute to Caesar so He would be arrested.

                  Tell me, did Jesus say in Matthew 19 that the government should force you to unwillingly provide a feast for those who prefer to sit home and collect a welfare check and crank out babies instead of getting off their lazy behinds and getting a job? OR did He say that when you, voluntarily, decide to give a feast, that you will be blessed IF you choose to invite people who cannot return the favor?

                  See the difference?
                  Bible boring? Nonsense!
                  Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                  You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                  • jeremy72
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                    • Nov 2010
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                    #10
                    Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

                    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                    When commanded by God, of course. By definition, anything commanded by God is good.
                    Even if God commanded you to rape your own daughter?

                    Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                    Because Jesus informed us that the dietary laws were not of concern. If you read the Bible, you'd know this.
                    No he didn't.

                    God directs us to separate ourselves from those who do not follow Him, and to destroy those who worship other gods. That's how it makes sense.
                    He never said anything of the sort. Did you even read the bible?
                    I said that Christians do not support taking the earnings of one by force to distribute to someone else who refuses to work. There is a difference.
                    Where in the bible does it say that? You're making this all up.

                    Christians also object to having their earnings confiscated by the government to be used to murder pre-born children and to indoctrinate children in anti-Christian Darwinism in the schools.
                    Then you don't have to live in America. Go create your own country where you can do whatever you want.

                    You really should read the Bible before trying to tell us what it says or what makes sense.
                    You still don't make any sense, and it's clear that you make up stuff as you go along.

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                    • jeremy72
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                      • Nov 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

                      Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                      Matthew 22 has nothing to do with "separation of church and state", but the Pharisees trying to trick Jesus into condemning the payment of tribute to Caesar so He would be arrested.
                      The point is that he said it and you refuse to accept it. You are simply not a christian that's all.


                      Tell me, did Jesus say in Matthew 19 that the government should force you to unwillingly provide a feast for those who prefer to sit home and collect a welfare check and crank out babies instead of getting off their lazy behinds and getting a job? OR did He say that when you, voluntarily, decide to give a feast, that you will be blessed IF you choose to invite people who cannot return the favor?
                      Point to me where in the bible it says to oppose welfare programs. ABSENCE of a fact is not proof of it, this is basic logic 101.

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                      • Rev. M. Rodimer
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                        #12
                        Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

                        Originally posted by jeremy72 View Post
                        Even if God commanded you to rape your own daughter?
                        I don't have one, but if He commanded me to do so, it would, by definition, be good.

                        No he didn't.
                        Matthew 15:17.


                        He never said anything of the sort. Did you even read the bible?
                        I can see you haven't. Deuteronomy 13:6-10, Exodus 20:3-6, Exodus 23:24, Exodus 23:32-33, Numbers 31, need I go on?

                        Where in the bible does it say that? You're making this all up.
                        Reading comprehension, kid. I didn't say the Bible said that modern Christians object to socialist welfare programs.

                        Then you don't have to live in America. Go create your own country where you can do whatever you want.
                        Why? Christians are 78% of the population in the US. We will have complete control of the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2 little years. Within 2 after that, we will control the Supreme Court.

                        You might be interested in a one-way bus ticket to Canada.

                        You still don't make any sense, and it's clear that you make up stuff as you go along.
                        Typical atheist. You have never bothered to read the Bible, but only heard the cherry-picking nonsense of leftists like yourself. Thus, anything that disagrees with your ignorant beliefs must be a lie.

                        Go read the portions I've quoted for you. Then read the rest of the Bible. Try the Bible in a Year section of this very forum, even.

                        Once you've actually read it, maybe then you can tell us what the Bible says.
                        Bible boring? Nonsense!
                        Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                        You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                        • Rev. M. Rodimer
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                          #13
                          Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

                          Originally posted by jeremy72 View Post
                          The point is that he said it and you refuse to accept it. You are simply not a christian that's all.
                          I didn't say He didn't say it. I put it in context. Read the chapter, not a single verse.

                          Point to me where in the bible it says to oppose welfare programs. ABSENCE of a fact is not proof of it, this is basic logic 101.
                          I never said it did, Strawman.

                          Jesus never commented on welfare programs. Charity is voluntary. Welfare programs are the result of the government confiscating money under threat of punishment. Big difference.

                          There is no Heavenly reward mentioned for paying one's taxes; only for charity.
                          Bible boring? Nonsense!
                          Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                          You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                          • jeremy72
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                            #14
                            Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

                            Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                            I don't have one, but if He commanded me to do so, it would, by definition, be good.
                            No it wouldn't. It would be good by your own twisted irrational logic, to everyone else you would still be a sicko pedophile who rapes his own daughter.

                            Matthew 15:17.

                            I can see you haven't. Deuteronomy 13:6-10, Exodus 20:3-6, Exodus 23:24, Exodus 23:32-33, Numbers 31, need I go on?
                            Ah so now you're admitting that the bible is contradictory. So what do you believe then? The parts that YOU agree with and ignore the ones you don't agree with? That's how it works with you?
                            I said that Christians do not support taking the earnings of one by force to distribute to someone else who refuses to work. There is a difference.
                            Where did you get THAT notion from?

                            Why? Christians are 78% of the population in the US. We will have complete control of the House, Senate, and Presidency in 2 little years. Within 2 after that, we will control the Supreme Court.
                            Obama is a christian, the senate is 100% religious, and they all believe in the creation story, and most politicians either are or claim to be christian. Christians ALREADY dominate much of politics and this is why our country is so screwed up.

                            You might be interested in a one-way bus ticket to Canada.
                            You might be interested in creating your own country where you can live the way you want and not have to pay taxes. Nobody forced you to live in America.

                            Typical atheist. You have never bothered to read the Bible, but only heard the cherry-picking nonsense of leftists like yourself. Thus, anything that disagrees with your ignorant beliefs must be a lie.
                            And yet as you clearly demonstrated earlier, when you find contradictory verses in the bible you CONVENIENTLY choose the one that JUST HAPPENS to coincide with your own personal beliefs. That's not cherry picking?

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                            • jeremy72
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                              #15
                              Re: Why are so many christians conservatives?

                              Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                              I didn't say He didn't say it. I put it in context. Read the chapter, not a single verse.
                              And you refuse to believe it and take it to heart. Just admit that you are not a christian.

                              I never said it did, Strawman.

                              Jesus never commented on welfare programs. Charity is voluntary. Welfare programs are the result of the government confiscating money under threat of punishment. Big difference.

                              There is no Heavenly reward mentioned for paying one's taxes; only for charity.
                              It's not just welfare programs, it's ALL GOVERNMENT PROGRAMS.
                              If you don't want to pay taxes then don't pay them and face the consequences, or leave this country and find a way to live where you don't have to pay taxes. Who put a gun to your head and said that you had to live here?

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