Jake's Intro

[Mr Jake]

Hello everyone,

I'm Jake (Actually Jacob, i'm from Holland, but moving to USA, but just call me Jake). Anyway, i'm new here and it's a pleasure to meet you all.

Just read 'Cranky Old Man' his topic about the Netherlands, and what he said is very recognizable (hence why i'm moving to the USA).

My favorite KJV verse is from Exodus 15 (verse 2) "The LORD is my strength and song, and he is become my salvation: he is my God, and I will prepare him an habitation; my father's God, and I will exalt him. "

If you have any questions, fire away!

- Jake

[Cranky Old Man]

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Welcome to our friendly family forum!

How many sons do you have?

[Mr Jake]

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Welcome to our friendly family forum!

How many sons do you have?

Hello, thank you for your reply.
I currently don't have any sons. However, i really want to get many sons (i definitely don't want daughters, let's hope my future wife makes many sons).

- Jake

[Lisa H]

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Hello, thank you for your reply.
I currently don't have any sons. However, i really want to get many sons (i definitely don't want daughters, let's hope my future wife makes many sons).

- Jake

What is wrong with daughters. If no-one had daughters then you sons would turn into raging homers.

[Mr Jake]

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What is wrong with daughters. If no-one had daughters then you sons would turn into raging homers.

Thank you for your reply. Anyway, what you just said is true,

However, i would rather have sons than daughters. On the other hand, getting a daughter isn't a real problem if she grows up to be a fine christian woman and doesn't cause problems.

- Jake

[Brother Enoch]

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Thank you for your reply. Anyway, what you just said is true,

However, i would rather have sons than daughters. On the other hand, getting a daughter isn't a real problem if she grows up to be a fine christian woman and doesn't cause problems.

- Jake

Hi Jake! Welcome. What are your views on global warming? Repealing don't ask don't tell? The tea party? Bill Clinton? The Book of Romans? Canada? Original sin? Sarah Palin? Pies? Gender equality? Nuclear weapons? And a trick question for last: Mitt Romney?

[Mr Jake]

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Hi Jake! Welcome. What are your views on global warming? Repealing don't ask don't tell? The tea party? Bill Clinton? The Book of Romans? Canada? Original sin? Sarah Palin? Pies? Gender equality? Nuclear weapons? And a trick question for last: Mitt Romney?

Hello! Those are quite some questions . However, here are my answers:

1) My opinion about so called 'global warming' is that it doesn't exists.
2) I agree with don't ask don't tell. I mean, what possible use could it have for somebody to tel everyone "hi, i'm a homo"... I mean, straight people don't tell everyone their straight, so why should homo's tell that the're gay.
3) I first thought that the Tea Party was quite a good thing. However, that opinion changed when i read that they didn't care about Jesus.
4) Bill Clinton... Do i need to say more...
5) Don't really have a view about Canada. Never went there, never will go to either.
6) It was a clever trick of God.
7) I find Sarah Palin a very respectable woman!
8) Pies, well i like them if they are made well.
9) Gender Equality; Well, a man has his duty, and so does a woman.
10) I think nuclear weapons are necessary in the current world situation. The USA must show it's power!
11) Mitt Romney is a joke

- Jake

[Imam Rashik]

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You appear to be strong believer in Allah(pbuh).

How many Jihads have you been on?

[Mr Jake]

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You appear to be strong believer in Allah(pbuh).

How many Jihads have you been on?

Leave this thread now and never return.

[Brother Enoch]

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Hello! Those are quite some questions . However, here are my answers:

1) My opinion about so called 'global warming' is that it doesn't exists.
2) I agree with don't ask don't tell. I mean, what possible use could it have for somebody to tel everyone "hi, i'm a homo"... I mean, straight people don't tell everyone their straight, so why should homo's tell that the're gay.
3) I first thought that the Tea Party was quite a good thing. However, that opinion changed when i read that they didn't care about Jesus.
4) Bill Clinton... Do i need to say more...
5) Don't really have a view about Canada. Never went there, never will go to either.
6) It was a clever trick of God.
7) I find Sarah Palin a very respectable woman!
8) Pies, well i like them if they are made well.
9) Gender Equality; Well, a man has his duty, and so does a woman.
10) I think nuclear weapons are necessary in the current world situation. The USA must show it's power!
11) Mitt Romney is a joke

- Jake

You skipped the question on the Book of Romans. Are you trying to hide something?

[Mr Jake]

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You skipped the question on the Book of Romans. Are you trying to hide something?

Sorry! Missed that part, my apologies.
The book of Romans certainly is one of the most important books since it explains, that Salvation is offered through the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I find Romans 2:5/6 especially important.

"But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God"

"Who will render to every man according to his deeds"

Those verses are particulary important to me.

[Imam Rashik]

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Leave this thread now and never return.

You say you are a believer in Allah(pbuh), then you do not want know Him.
Have you been tricked by the Jinn into believing other things?

Here is some Holy Quran verses of one who has been deceived by the Jinn.

SURA 27.
38. He said: O chiefs! which of you can bring to me her throne before they come to me in submission?
39. One audacious among the jinn said: I will bring it to you before you rise up from your place; and most surely I am strong [and] trusty for it.
40. One who had the knowledge of the Book said: I will bring it to you in the twinkling of an eye. Then when he saw it settled beside him, he said: This is of the grace of my Lord that He may try me whether I am grateful or ungrateful; and whoever is grateful, he is grateful only for his own soul, and whoever is ungrateful, then surely my Lord is Self-sufficient, Honored.
41. He said: Alter her throne for her, we will see whether she follows the right way or is of those who do not go aright.
42. So when she came, it was said: Is your throne like this? She said: It is as it were the same, and we were given the knowledge before it, and we were submissive.
43. And what she worshipped besides Allah prevented her, surely she was of an unbelieving people.

[Mr Jake]

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You say you are a believer in Allah(pbuh), then you do not want know Him.
Have you been tricked by the Jinn into believing other things?

Here is some Holy Quran verses of one who has been deceived by the Jinn.

SURA 27.
38. He said: O chiefs! which of you can bring to me her throne before they come to me in submission?
39. One audacious among the jinn said: I will bring it to you before you rise up from your place; and most surely I am strong [and] trusty for it.
40. One who had the knowledge of the Book said: I will bring it to you in the twinkling of an eye. Then when he saw it settled beside him, he said: This is of the grace of my Lord that He may try me whether I am grateful or ungrateful; and whoever is grateful, he is grateful only for his own soul, and whoever is ungrateful, then surely my Lord is Self-sufficient, Honored.
41. He said: Alter her throne for her, we will see whether she follows the right way or is of those who do not go aright.
42. So when she came, it was said: Is your throne like this? She said: It is as it were the same, and we were given the knowledge before it, and we were submissive.
43. And what she worshipped besides Allah prevented her, surely she was of an unbelieving people.

Go away with your 'Quran'. I got my KJV Bible

[Brother Enoch]

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Sorry! Missed that part, my apologies.
The book of Romans certainly is one of the most important books since it explains, that Salvation is offered through the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I find Romans 2:5/6 especially important.

"But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God"

"Who will render to every man according to his deeds"

Those verses are particulary important to me.

So you favor works over faith? Like the Catholics?

How then do you interpret Roman 9:11-15?

11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth 12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

[Mr Jake]

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So you favor works over faith? Like the Catholics?

How then do you interpret Roman 9:11-15?

11(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth 12It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.
13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
14What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
15For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

No, not necessarily. Anyway, here are my interpretations of Roman 9:11-15:

11) This one is a bit tricky. Anyway, this verse is about children who are not born yet (and haven't formed any 'character') , and neither done good or evil (Moral Agency had not yet commenced), that the purpose of God (is antecedent to the formation of character), according to election might stand(To dispense his favors according to his sovereign will and pleasure), might stand (might be), not of works (Not by anything which they had done either to merit his favor or to forfeit it.), but of him that Calleth (According to the will and purpose of him that chooses to dispense those favors in this manner).

12) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. (The elder one is Esau, which is the oldest son. And that he should subject to the younger brother.)

13)As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. (How it is written that Jacob was prefered over Esau, it isn't clear if Esau was positively hated, or not)

14)What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
(The first part "What shall we say then" is more about what conclusion shall be drawed from the situation. The second part is more an objection to god. "Is god unrighteousness?". However, the third part is about how god's nature is not unrighteousness.

15) For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion (For he saith to Moses refers to Exosus 33:19, I will have mercy on whom i will have mercy with tells us, how God will choose himself who he bestows mercy with. And that the lord will have compassion to the people who he deems worthy.)

Took a while to write : P

- Jake