[Brother Enoch]

Re: Jake's Intro

No, not necessarily. Anyway, here are my interpretations of Roman 9:11-15:

11) This one is a bit tricky. Anyway, this verse is about children who are not born yet (and haven't formed any 'character') , and neither done good or evil (Moral Agency had not yet commenced), that the purpose of God (is antecedent to the formation of character), according to election might stand(To dispense his favors according to his sovereign will and pleasure), might stand (might be), not of works (Not by anything which they had done either to merit his favor or to forfeit it.), but of him that Calleth (According to the will and purpose of him that chooses to dispense those favors in this manner).

12) It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger. (The elder one is Esau, which is the oldest son. And that he should subject to the younger brother.)

13)As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated. (How it is written that Jacob was prefered over Esau, it isn't clear if Esau was positively hated, or not)

14)What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.
(The first part "What shall we say then" is more about what conclusion shall be drawed from the situation. The second part is more an objection to god. "Is god unrighteousness?". However, the third part is about how god's nature is not unrighteousness.

15) For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion (For he saith to Moses refers to Exosus 33:19, I will have mercy on whom i will have mercy with tells us, how God will choose himself who he bestows mercy with. And that the lord will have compassion to the people who he deems worthy.)

Took a while to write : P

- Jake

Well thought out. You are certainly far above the quality of the daily flotsam that washes up on our shores. But be clear: Do you believe in double predestination?

[Bible Student]

Re: Jake's Intro

Leave this thread now and never return.

That is not a decision you are allowed to make. The pastors and administrators of Landover Baptist Church from time to time might allow a token Moosleem or two around just so visitors can see how silly they are.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Jake's Intro

That is not a decision you are allowed to make. The pastors and administrators of Landover Baptist Church from time to time might allow a token Moosleem or two around just so visitors can see how silly they are.

Can't say I blame him though. I've found that thing so annoying I've got it on my ignore list. Don't care what it has to say, don't want to be bothered reading it. Anyway, blocking him hasn't seemed to stop me from missing anything important in threads.

[Bible Student]

Re: Jake's Intro

Can't say I blame him though. I've found that thing so annoying I've got it on my ignore list. Don't care what it has to say, don't want to be bothered reading it. Anyway, blocking him hasn't seemed to stop me from missing anything important in threads.

I agree wholeheartedly, sister. I can't click quickly enough on the negative rep. and as you said he still won't take the hint and slither away. But still, since I am only a Bible Student I haven't been privy to the wisdom of the powers that be at Landover Baptist Church, for I am reminded of

Hebrews 13:17 -- Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

as they are charged with the duty to watch over us.

Acts 20:28 -- Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

[Mr Jake]

Re: Jake's Intro

Well thought out. You are certainly far above the quality of the daily flotsam that washes up on our shores. But be clear: Do you believe in double predestination?

Yes. I do believe in double predestination. God chooses who would go to heaven, and who to hell, and that his decision will infallibly come to pass.

@BibleStudent,
That's very true what you said there. However, i was just a bit annoyed that he constantly tells me that i should believe in his so called 'god'.

- Jake

[James Dewitt]

Re: Jake's Intro

Yes. I do believe in double predestination. God chooses who would go to heaven, and who to hell, and that his decision will infallibly come to pass.

@BibleStudent,
That's very true what you said there. However, i was just a bit annoyed that he constantly tells me that i should believe in his so called 'god'.

- Jake

Welcome Jake, that's a fine name you have. Tell me son do you like football and not that sissy crap from Europe? I always say I would rather have a son be a Homer that a fan of soccer. after all one leads to the other. Whats your take on stoning?

[Mr Jake]

Re: Jake's Intro

Welcome Jake, that's a fine name you have. Tell me son do you like football and not that sissy crap from Europe? I always say I would rather have a son be a Homer that a fan of soccer. after all one leads to the other. Whats your take on stoning?

Soccer is a big no.. no... The sport is filled with sissy people who cry everytime they fall on the ground. I honestly don't get it why it's so popular.

I like to watch football, although i don't watch it very often. But i really like it as sports itself.

About the stoning:
Leviticus 24-16:
"And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death."
So i believe that stoning should be allowed.

- Jake