[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello

So fellow Christians I have a problem and need advice, as I'm working one chef tells me of a new cooking movement called molecular gastronomy. Basically it's chemically altering foods to drastically change the texture in a way not posible with normal cooking techniques. My question is, is this an insult to God who has created these wonderful fruits and vegtables only to be manipulated in a way our Lord did not design?

Why are you doing womens work anyway?

Oh, and I looked up your "molecular gastronomy" looks like just a fancy word for "changes that happen during cooking" to me. The example I found was how an egg changes from basically liquid, to something edible, to a rubber ball as you keep cooking it. In fact it looks like another science experiment to do with the boys.

Molecular gastronomy is a discipline practiced by both scientists and food professionals that studies the physical and chemical processes that occur while cooking. Molecular gastronomy seeks to investigate and explain the chemical reasons behind the transformation of ingredients, as well as the social, artistic and technical components of culinary and gastronomic phenomena in general.

The term "Molecular and Physical Gastronomy" was coined in 1992 by Hungarian physicist Nicholas Kurti and French physical chemist Hervé This. It became the title for a set of workshops held in Erice, Italy (originally titled "Science and Gastronomy") that brought together scientists and professional cooks for discussions on the science behind traditional cooking preparations. Eventually, the shortened term "Molecular Gastronomy" also became the name of the scientific discipline co-created by Kurti and This to be based on exploring the science behind traditional cooking methods

I find it amazing that the liebrals can take something that we've been doing for 6,000 years and make it a new "science". Yep, cooking is now "food science".


Edit:

Oh, this is rich........

The objectives of molecular gastronomy, as defined by Hervé This are:

Current objectives:

Looking for the mechanisms of culinary transformations and processes (from a chemical and physical point of view) in three areas:

1. the social phenomena linked to culinary activity
2. the artistic component of culinary activity
3. the technical component of culinary activity

Original objectives:

The original fundamental objectives of molecular gastronomy were defined by This in his doctoral dissertation as:

1. Investigating culinary and gastronomical proverbs, sayings, and old wives' tales
2. Exploring existing recipes
3. Introducing new tools, ingredients and methods into the kitchen
4. Inventing new dishes
5. Using molecular gastronomy to help the general public understand the contribution of science to society

However, This later recognized points 3, 4 and 5 as being not entirely scientific endeavours (more application of technology and educational), and has since revised the primary objectives of molecular gastronomy.

So um..... how much are liebrals paying for these "scientists" to come up with new meals and spatulas?

[Brett_L]

Re: Hello

I specialize in American food, specifically wild game since I'm a hunter. Now hunting deer, skinning it and butchery is no womens work. Can you imagine a woman preparing wild game? I don't think so. Basically I got hired to train hethens in this doomed liberal wasteland to learn American cooking of wild game.

This molecular gastronomy must be an affront to God, turning things like fruits and vegtables into fish eggs, these so called "scientists" have no regard for the nature of things.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello

I specialize in American food, specifically wild game since I'm a hunter. Now hunting deer, skinning it and butchery is no womens work. Can you imagine a woman preparing wild game? I don't think so. Basically I got hired to train hethens in this doomed liberal wasteland to learn American cooking of wild game.

What?

Really, you were hired to teach Canadians how to cook wild game. Have you looked around Canada? It's 90% WILDERNESS! Oh and I know that restaurants are not allowed to serve hunted game. Any "game" on the menu is farm raised.

As for a woman preparing wild game, I do it on a regular basis. Hubby goes out shoots it, brings it home and leaves it on the table for me. I clean it, cut it and cook it. It's his job to bring home the bacon, mine to cook it up.

This molecular gastronomy must be an affront to God, turning things like fruits and vegtables into fish eggs, these so called "scientists" have no regard for the nature of things.

You don't know what the word means do you. Basically "molecular gastronomy is the study of what happens to meat when it's cooked. Why is fat and gristle basically ineddible in raw form but absolutely delicious when cooked. Did you bother to read the list that I gave you? It's the study of such foolish things as

• dining out (yep, that's a "science" all right)
• why people want their food to look good
• studying "old wives tales"
• inventing recipes
• inventing new kitchen gadgets
• trying to prove that they're important

Looks to me like the exact same thing that women have done for 6,000 years.

Oh and talking about history, you may want to brush up on your kitchen history. Women have a role in this life, and that role is "Children, Kitchen, Church". I mean according to the definitions I'm a "molecular gastrominist". Then again, so was my mother, both my grandmothers, and all of my aunts, and every Christian woman back to Eve. Any woman worth her weight knows that their family wants food that looks appetizing, we know why our grandmothers did what they did (the old wives tales), we experiment with recipes, and we sometimes create gadgets. The difference is we know we have an important role in life and don't need to prove a reason for our existence, also we realize that dining out is for the lazy. Sure Seth eats out a lot when he's on the road, but that's because of his job. But when families are eating out up to 10 meals a week, someone is shirking their responsibility.

So yeah, you're doing a woman's job. Oh, and I also butcher poultry. How else would I have a fresh roast chicken ready for Seth when he got home?

It's mind boggling that liebrals are so out of touch with the world and our position in it. I'm putting some thoughts together and may write an article for the women's section.

[Brett_L]

Re: Hello

No this molecular gastronomy thing goes beyond what your saying, or it's just the liberals perverting something. These people use chemicals and cook with liquid nitrogen in restaurants for dining out its pretty much things that would be impossible to do with a standard kitchen.

[Bible Student]

Re: Hello

No this molecular gastronomy thing goes beyond what your saying, or it's just the liberals perverting something. These people use chemicals and cook with liquid nitrogen in restaurants for dining out its pretty much things that would be impossible to do with a standard kitchen.

A True Christian(tm) woman can always substitute cups and pitchers for test tubes and beakers. If your scientists can cook it or prepare it then so can any True Christian(tm) woman. Pay attention to Sister BelieverInGod. She told you like it is.

And exactly why are you contradicting a True Christian(tm) in their very own Landover Baptist Church forum? Did you neglect to read the rules? Maybe you didn't understand them which explains why you misunderstood the molecular gastronomy link BelieverInGod explained to you. If you don't learn to hold your tongue fingers I suspect your visit here will have a very short duration.

James 3:2-10 -- For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. Behold, we put bits in the horses' mouths, that they may obey us; and we turn about their whole body. Behold also the ships, which though they be so great, and are driven of fierce winds, yet are they turned about with a very small helm, whithersoever the governor listeth. Even so the tongue is a little member, and boasteth great things. Behold, how great a matter a little fire kindleth! And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity: so is the tongue among our members, that it defileth the whole body, and setteth on fire the course of nature; and it is set on fire of hell. For every kind of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of things in the sea, is tamed, and hath been tamed of mankind: But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison. Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.

Proverbs 21:23 -- Whoso keepeth his mouth and his tongue keepeth his soul from troubles.

Psalms 52:2 -- Thy tongue deviseth mischiefs; like a sharp razor, working deceitfully.

Psalms 39:1 -- I said, I will take heed to my ways, that I sin not with my tongue: I will keep my mouth with a bridle, while the wicked is before me.

James 1:26 -- If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hello

No this molecular gastronomy thing goes beyond what your saying, or it's just the liberals perverting something. These people use chemicals and cook with liquid nitrogen in restaurants for dining out its pretty much things that would be impossible to do with a standard kitchen.

Please provide proof of this. Using liquid nitrogen? Just a fancy form of fast freezing, been used for decades. And what chemicals are you using that's so "secret"? Some of the common ones I cook with are....

acetic acid
aluminum potassium sulfate
amylum
ascorbic acid
carbonic acid
citric acid
methane
methyl salicylate
paraffin
potassium bitartrate
potassium chloride
propane
sodium chloride
sodium hydrogen carbonate
sucrose

As for changing the properties of ingredients. Well if we take sugar, mix in some peanuts, heat it up to 300F, we end up with peanut brittle. So there, I've changed the property of the sucrose.

Put an egg in a glass of vinegar for a few days and the shell would have become rubbery.



Really, this is stuff that a Christian girl should learn in her childhood. I'm not sure why you're trying to make yourself more important by claiming it's a science.

[Brett_L]

Re: Hello

Silly women, way to completely miss the point. I'm not here to argue or debate but mearly introduce myself and get answers related to my faith in God.

Now its nice that you can list off ingredients from a can label and to a certain extent the definition you provide is correct but in the proffesional kitchen it's a whole new ball game where new techniques are created where it was not thought possible. I doubt you use pure-coat b790, ultra-tex 3, sorbitol to name a few in their pure form. In fact a restaurant kitchen is no place for a woman and I can guarantee you will be eaten alive, best to stick with your homemade pies and roast chickens.

Maybe I should elaborate but when a person I work with compares himself to God for what he is doing, which I probably should have wrote, its offensive and I seek guidance from a pastor as to what coarse of action I should take. As for cooking, do you think I cook in the sanctity of my own home? That is womens work, I come home and the woman does the cooking. A woman cannot grasp the intricate details of fine dining. Check out alinea, el bulli, per se, the french laundry, the fat duck to understand that women are incapable of this. Also, women should not be on the internet, did your husband give you permission?
Timothy 2:11-12
11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

You'r posts do not count to a man of God, this also comfirms that women are not to work. See, you get confused and don't realize that work and home are two different things.

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Hello

I doubt you use pure-coat b790, ultra-tex 3, sorbitol to name a few in their pure form.

That sounds like the stuff young gays swallow at rave parties. Real people eat real meat of animals they just killed personally.

[Nobar King]

Re: Hello

Do you think you can make a cake taste like a root-beer float? That might be good.

[Brett_L]

Re: Hello

I agree brother, this is all what this place I have to be at is doing. I take care of the meat I go hunting as well like a real man should. Yes, these nancyboys can make rootbeerr pie. Again, how do I react towards these hethens, if anything I did punch one of the faggots at my work for trying to offer me drugs. At least he got fired, I know im surprised these hethens did one thing right.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Hello

Also, women should not be on the internet, did your husband give you permission?

Were you aware that Sister BiG's husband also posts here? I think that's a fairly good indicator she has his permission.

Timothy 2:11-12
11Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection.

12But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

You'r posts do not count to a man of God, this also comfirms that women are not to work. See, you get confused and don't realize that work and home are two different things.

Well, I wouldn't know for sure, being a mere women, but I've always been under the impression that cooking is always women's work (grilling being the exception that proves the rule). I would like to hear a Pastor's opinion on this.

[Brett_L]

Re: Hello

Womens work is in their homes, not outside. It seems like you need to brush up on Corinthians 11, Timothy 2, Peter 3, Ephesians 5, and Collosians 3.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: Hello

Womens work is in their homes, not outside. It seems like you need to brush up on Corinthians 11, Timothy 2, Peter 3, Ephesians 5, and Collosians 3.

And could you point out anywhere I said something to the contrary? The issue here isn't women working outside the home, it is men doing what is considered women's work. That is why I asked a PASTOR to clear it up for me, since I generally don't take religious instruction from people labeled as "unsaved trash".

Maybe you could point me in the direction of a verse that says strangers can be disrespectful of True Christian(tm) ladies? I can't seem to find any in my Bible.

[Brett_L]

Re: Hello

Lycia why don't you post the private message you sent me here? I am a sexist? Women are responsible for death and sin, by you calling me a sexist for quoting the Bible and using reference to scripture makes no sense. Are you against the teachings of the bible?

[Brett_L]

Re: Hello

I do not need a forum title from the internet to label me as a True Christian when I already am one regradless of what anyone says. Titles are insignificant in the eyes of God when the time comes.