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  • Voidxno
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    • Jan 2011
    • 12

    #1

    Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

    Hello I am 28 years old, american,atheist,and I do not believe Jesus is a real historical figure.
    Yes,not only doubt the existence of god, but your Jesus as well. I would be interested if any one can provide multi sourced accounts of his existence.
  • Stella LaForte
    Unsaved trash, but struggling to become Saved(r)
     
    • Dec 2010
    • 116

    #2
    Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

    Very true! There is a conspicuous lack of any manner of historical documentation other than the Bible written in that time period concering the whereabouts and doings of Jesus. About time somebody addressed that.
    1 Timothy 2:11-15
    Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

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    • Voidxno
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      • Jan 2011
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

      Originally posted by Stella LaForte View Post
      Very true! There is a conspicuous lack of any manner of historical documentation other than the Bible written in that time period concering the whereabouts and doings of Jesus. About time somebody addressed that.
      Thank you for for your support. Indeed it nice to converse with an informed person.

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      • Bible Student
        Master of Biblical Study and Ancient Languages
        With Jesus now.
        True Christian™
        • Dec 2010
        • 2474

        #4
        Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

        Originally posted by Voidxno View Post
        Hello I am 28 years old, american,atheist,and I do not believe Jesus is a real historical figure.
        Yes,not only doubt the existence of god, but your Jesus as well. I would be interested if any one can provide multi sourced accounts of his existence.
        Another idiot trips on our doorstep who cannot read titles of threads. I assume you either have trouble with the English language or your reading comprehension skills stopped at kindergarten. But just in case you are myopic I repeat it for you: The introduction forum Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.
        YiJC, BS

        II Peter 1:4 -- Whereby are giuen vnto vs exceeding great and precious promises, that by these you might bee partakers of thy diuine nature, hauing escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

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        • Bible Student
          Master of Biblical Study and Ancient Languages
          With Jesus now.
          True Christian™
          • Dec 2010
          • 2474

          #5
          Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

          Originally posted by Stella LaForte View Post
          Very true! There is a conspicuous lack of any manner of historical documentation other than the Bible written in that time period concering the whereabouts and doings of Jesus. About time somebody addressed that.
          He didn't address anything. He just made a stupid assertion.
          YiJC, BS

          II Peter 1:4 -- Whereby are giuen vnto vs exceeding great and precious promises, that by these you might bee partakers of thy diuine nature, hauing escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

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          • Bible Student
            Master of Biblical Study and Ancient Languages
            With Jesus now.
            True Christian™
            • Dec 2010
            • 2474

            #6
            Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

            Originally posted by Voidxno View Post
            Thank you for for your support. Indeed it nice to converse with an informed person.
            Stella is not an informed person. She is only a plagiarist. At first I thought she had a keen intellect and there was hope for her. Instead we learn that she copies and pastes. As far as I can see the only good thing she has going for her is that her avatar is pretty. But she probably copied and pasted that too.
            YiJC, BS

            II Peter 1:4 -- Whereby are giuen vnto vs exceeding great and precious promises, that by these you might bee partakers of thy diuine nature, hauing escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

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            • barton
              True Christian™ Minister to the Godless Savages in Hawaii
              It's a dirty job but someone has to do it.
              True Christian™
              • Oct 2010
              • 498

              #7
              Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

              Originally posted by Voidxno View Post
              Hello I am 28 years old, american,atheist,and I do not believe Jesus is a real historical figure.
              This is not an outreach center! This is the forum for our Church. If you are neither Saved™ nor genuinely seeking Salvation™, you are unwelcome here.
              Yes,not only doubt the existence of god, but your Jesus as well. I would be interested if any one can provide multi sourced accounts of his existence.
              There's an entire collection of books and letters, all conveniently packaged together for you in a publication called the Bible. There are also some references in the writings of an ancient Joo named Josephus who was there at the time. Finally, there are even more "accounts of his existence" in non-Canonical, heretical texts such as the Gospel of Judas and so on.
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              "And said to the mountains and rocks,
              Fall on us, and hide us from the face
              of him that sitteth on the throne,
              and from the wrath of the Lamb"

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              • Stella LaForte
                Unsaved trash, but struggling to become Saved(r)
                 
                • Dec 2010
                • 116

                #8
                Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

                Originally posted by Bible Student View Post
                Stella is not an informed person. She is only a plagiarist. At first I thought she had a keen intellect and there was hope for her. Instead we learn that she copies and pastes. As far as I can see the only good thing she has going for her is that her avatar is pretty. But she probably copied and pasted that too.
                Of course you'd say that in attempts to discredit me! However, in that instance - excluding my introduction posts, as that was designed merely to annoy the people here with new age nonsense - my source was cited in the next post. I'd appreciate it if we branched out a little, though - calling people names only detracts from the point said name-caller is attempting to make, after all!

                And he certainly did make an assertion. There is, in fact, no reliable historical evidence that Jesus ever existed.
                1 Timothy 2:11-15
                Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

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                • Voidxno
                  Unsaved trash
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

                  To expand on my background I am genetics grad student with an interest in genetic anthropology and effects in Human migration. Currently I live in Florida and attend an university most here would not approve. My church is the church of science,humanity, and reason.

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                  • BelieverInGod
                    Fourm Member
                    Forum Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 9269

                    #10
                    Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

                    Originally posted by Voidxno View Post
                    To expand on my background I am genetics grad student with an interest in genetic anthropology and effects in Human migration. Currently I live in Florida and attend an university most here would not approve. My church is the church of science,humanity, and reason.
                    Uh, huh. So tell me, how is Starbucks paying these days?

                    I guess it's good that at least you admit atheism is a religion.
                    Drama queen

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                    • Voidxno
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                      • Jan 2011
                      • 12

                      #11
                      Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

                      Originally posted by barton View Post
                      This is not an outreach center! This is the forum for our Church. If you are neither Saved™ nor genuinely seeking Salvation™, you are unwelcome here.
                      There's an entire collection of books and letters, all conveniently packaged together for you in a publication called the Bible. There are also some references in the writings of an ancient Joo named Josephus who was there at the time. Finally, there are even more "accounts of his existence" in non-Canonical, heretical texts such as the Gospel of Judas and so on.
                      Ahhh... yes Josephus, the wonderfully short passage on Jesus and James that appears in that form only through mistranslation in one version. Also Judas gospel only shows a limited existence on the earth plane for the figure Jesus.He is more of a spiritual being than a man.That is being generous,at times he seem more like a metaphor to them.However Docetic texts like the gospel of peter would be more app.

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                      • BelieverInGod
                        Fourm Member
                        Forum Member
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 9269

                        #12
                        Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

                        **sigh**

                        And yet again.....

                        Drama queen

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                        • Stella LaForte
                          Unsaved trash, but struggling to become Saved(r)
                           
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 116

                          #13
                          Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

                          Originally posted by Voidxno View Post
                          Ahhh... yes Josephus, the wonderfully short passage on Jesus and James that appears in that form only through mistranslation in one version. Also Judas gospel only shows a limited existence on the earth plane for the figure Jesus.He is more of a spiritual being than a man.That is being generous,at times he seem more like a metaphor to them.However Docetic texts like the gospel of peter would be more app.
                          And more - the first gospel was quite skimpy in comparison to the latter three, the gospel growing in size each time, showing even more how the story is elaborated upon repetitively - transforming Jesus from man to spiritual essense.

                          As for Josephus, his "account" was obviously a forgery and its veracity is dismissed by all historians.
                          1 Timothy 2:11-15
                          Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

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                          • Rev. Jim Osborne
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                            • Jun 2009
                            • 8622

                            #14
                            Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

                            The existence of Jesus's existence is overwhelming. Not only are there four separate books attesting that He indeed lived (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) but then you have Paul's account of meeting Christ on the road to Damascus, the dozens of eyewitnesses in Acts of the Apostles where they have seen Jesus Christ back from the dead, the Gnostic gospels, Josephus, etc.

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                            • Stella LaForte
                              Unsaved trash, but struggling to become Saved(r)
                               
                              • Dec 2010
                              • 116

                              #15
                              Re: Hello I am Voidx and I do not believe Jesus exist.

                              Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                              The existence of Jesus's existence is overwhelming. Not only are there four separate books attesting that He indeed lived (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John) but then you have Paul's account of meeting Christ on the road to Damascus, the dozens of eyewitnesses in Acts of the Apostles where they have seen Jesus Christ back from the dead, the Gnostic gospels, Josephus, etc.
                              The accounts of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John are questionable, at best - and still, they're part of the Bible, as is Paul's account and the "eyewitnesses," and the Bible is not to be taken as historically correct evidence! As for the Gnostic gospels, those were written anywhere from 200-400 years after Jesus allegedly died, making any such accounts worthless as nobody alive could have possibly seen him and been able to bear eyewitness testimony to his existence. As for Josephus, as I said, it is such an obvious forgery that all historians dismiss it.
                              1 Timothy 2:11-15
                              Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

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