Miss Kary's Introduction

[missykardon]

I've never understood why Christians always use this as proof that God exists:

"Because it says so in the Bible!"'

But who wrote the Bible?

"God wrote the Bible!"

So just using regular normal people logic, we can come to the conclusion that:

"God wrote the Bible in which it says that God exists because the Bible says so...!"


and so on and so forth. So you're saying something exists because of something this thing said? Isn't this the definition of circular logic?

[Lost Sheep McUinnean]

Re: how do you know god exists?

I can see the word 'duh' being used a lot in this thread.


Duh.

[Bible Student]

Re: how do you know god exists?

I've never understood why Christians always use this as proof that God exists:

"Because it says so in the Bible!"'

But who wrote the Bible?

"God wrote the Bible!"

So just using regular normal people logic, we can come to the conclusion that:

"God wrote the Bible in which it says that God exists because the Bible says so...!"


and so on and so forth. So you're saying something exists because of something this thing said? Isn't this the definition of circular logic?

But a circle is the perfect form. It doesn't have those sharp corners like a square would. People could get hurt with those.

[Adilene]

Re: how do you know god exists?

You can ask yourself why, or you can look at the things he gave us. He gave us animals for food. Water to drink. Air to breathe. He even gave us an instruction manual to read! THE HOLY BIBLE. What more proof could you ask for???

[missykardon]

Re: how do you know god exists?

@Lost Sheep McUinnean:
I didn't say "duh" any times...would you please clarify?

@Bible Student:
I'm sorry I wasn't more clear, I don't mean "circular logic" in terms of the shape of a circle, I meant that you're using the existence of something to prove its existence. Can anyone explain to me why? It doesn't make any sense to me.

[missykardon]

Re: how do you know god exists?

@Adilene:
Or I could look at the things that nature and science has provided me with. animals for food. Water to drink. Air to breathe. If anyone else has any proof he exists, I'd be very appreciative.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: how do you know god exists?

@Lost Sheep McUinnean:
I didn't say "duh" any times...would you please clarify?

@Bible Student:
I'm sorry I wasn't more clear, I don't mean "circular logic" in terms of the shape of a circle, I meant that you're using the existence of something to prove its existence. Can anyone explain to me why? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Well if you had bothered to use the search function you would have found this

Absolute proof that GOD exists

Duh.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: how do you know god exists?

@Bible Student:
I'm sorry I wasn't more clear, I don't mean "circular logic" in terms of the shape of a circle, I meant that you're using the existence of something to prove its existence. Can anyone explain to me why? It doesn't make any sense to me.

I don't know what Christians you've been talking to, but no True Christian(tm) uses the Bible to prove God's existence.

God's existence is apparent simply by looking around at the world we live in, the miracle of life, the amazing intricacy of His Creation. How else could such perfection exist? Do you honestly think "evolution" explains things like whales? They're huge, they're mammals, and they live in the ocean, but don't drown!

It's simply amazing!

We use the Bible to demonstrate God's Will and to know who He is. And we know the Bible is right because it says what it says, which means that the all-knowing, all-powerful God has not changed it.

[Adilene]

Re: how do you know god exists?

@Adilene:
Or I could look at the things that nature and science has provided me with. animals for food. Water to drink. Air to breathe. If anyone else has any proof he exists, I'd be very appreciative.

Are you really thinking about this? Science could never have made a cow, chicken, or pig from thin air!!!!!!! I'm pretty sure they didn't make all the water too. You suffer from a lack of thinking. It's so easy to say science has made our food, but if that was the case why isn't there more! Why are people starving. Why are food prices so high????? Plants grow because of God.

[missykardon]

Re: how do you know god exists?

@BelieverInGod:
I've already read that thread, and it hasn't convinced me. It doesn't seem to be anywhere near absolute proof of God's existence.

[GOD=life]

Re: how do you know god exists?

I've never understood why Christians always use this as proof that God exists:

Perhaps because True Christians don't use it as proof that God exists. What do you think Christians pray to?

[Janine Walker]

Re: how do you know god exists?

and so on and so forth. So you're saying something exists because of something this thing said? Isn't this the definition of circular logic?

I'm not so sure what circular logic is but I can tell you it's a lot better than backwards logic such as this:

A sick person takes medicine to get better.

Therefore a sick person who stops taking medicine is no longer sick because only a sick person needs to take medicine.

Logic doesn't work like that.

You do the same thing..

A sinner needs to repent for his or her sins to the Lord Jesus Christ to be saved.

You figure that if you stop repentance and simply deny that you are a sinner and thus deny God that you are all of a sudden destined for a holy place. Unfortunately for you, that simply isn't how logic works.

If you are a female and have any type of things that have value such as money, nice Dodge Trucks or any motorcycles; my dad would be more than happy to take you in and help discipline and train you to become a good Christian woman.

You will of course have to fully convert and obey every rule of the Bible as well as the rules to our house. You will learn the Bible front to back and follow it down to the letter. We look forward to having you here and I look forward to having a Sister help me clean up around here!

God bless, Janine Walker

P.S. PM me for my address!

[Adilene]

Re: how do you know god exists?

You really have to get on the right track. Think about it. Sinners and Atheist will burn in Hell.
Matthew 25:41


41Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

[BelieverInGod]

Re: how do you know god exists?

@BelieverInGod:
I've already read that thread, and it hasn't convinced me. It doesn't seem to be anywhere near absolute proof of God's existence.

Because nothing is going to make you believe. Your heart is hardened, Jesus is knocking and all you can do is board up the door and try to ignore Him.

Even if the stars aligned themselves to say GOD IS REAL, you would say that someone had slipped you some drugs. So tell me why God should be bothered with proving himself to someone who is just going to spit in his face.

Deuteronomy 31:27 For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death?

Jeremiah 17:23 But they obeyed not, neither inclined their ear, but made their neck stiff, that they might not hear, nor receive instruction.

Oh, and what about this thread? PROOF: God is Real

Maybe if you got out of your basement once in a while and looked around, you'd realize what a beautiful world God gave us.

[Stella LaForte]

Re: how do you know god exists?

Well if you had bothered to use the search function you would have found this

Absolute proof that GOD exists

Duh.

I'm trying to believe, I really am... but how does the existence of megalodons prove the existence of God?