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  • Buddy-Love
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    • Jan 2011
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    #1

    False statement?

    I bring your attention to this post:
    Please read this. You are our guest. We will treat you like a jewel on the cushion of our hospitality. Or maybe not.


    Specifically, this paragraph:

    Does God listen the prayers of Christians who aren't white Americans?

    No, he doesn't want to listen to non-whites and non-Americans because he considers them dogs:

    But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
    Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
    But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs - Matthew 15:24-26


    While i am going to skip over the part about non-whites, which just for the record, i believe is racist, but if you believe otherwise, then so be it. But i wish to specifically talk about the non-American part.

    And before i go into detail, i suppose i should state that i'm not American. i am Australian. So you are telling me that god considers me to be a dog, simply because my ancestors migrated from England to Australia, rather than to America? And just for the record, i doubt you will find a single white American whose ancestors from some previous generation weren't immigrants.

    So basically, we are one and the same, in terms of backgrounds. Especially when you consider the fact that we all descend from Adam and Eve, as the bible says. So can someone who is more religiously educated than me please explain how the non-American part can be true? And i would also like to see some examples from the bible where it says anything about Americans being superior.


    Also, just out of interest, if we all descended from Adam and Eve, then how are there different races? And if god made us in his own image, how come (according to posters on this forum) some races are superior to others?

    And i just want to end this post by saying that i am in no way mocking/ trying to disprove what anyone believes, i am just interested, and some of the things i have read on this forum are extremely different to what i personally believe. So please keep this in mind when you reply.
  • Rev. Jim Osborne
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    • Jun 2009
    • 8622

    #2
    Re: False statement?

    Welcome to God's Favorite Forum™, friend. I'd be happy to answer some of your questions.

    First off, I'm sorry you were born in Abo and have to live in Godforsaken Austria. But if you want to know why America is God's Favorite Country, you just have to look at the Bible. While it doesn't mention "America" specifically, (for how could it, the word was not invented until much later!) it is clear that America is God's chosen people...

    1 Peter 2:9 (KJV) ~ But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.


    Are we not the richest country? That means the Lord has blessed us...

    Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

    And are we not the most strongest country? That is our reward for our faithfulness.

    Proverbs 28:25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.


    Originally posted by Buddy-Love View Post

    Also, just out of interest, if we all descended from Adam and Eve, then how are there different races? And if god made us in his own image, how come (according to posters on this forum) some races are superior to others?
    This should answer your question.

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    • Buddy-Love
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      • Jan 2011
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      #3
      Re: False statement?

      Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
      Welcome to God's Favorite Forum™, friend. I'd be happy to answer some of your questions.

      First off, I'm sorry you were born in Abo and have to live in Godforsaken Austria. But if you want to know why America is God's Favorite Country, you just have to look at the Bible. While it doesn't mention "America" specifically, (for how could it, the word was not invented until much later!) it is clear that America is God's chosen people...

      1 Peter 2:9 (KJV) ~ But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.
      I may have been born in Australia, but i am white. Ultimately, i am no different from those of you who live in America. Can i ask why Australia is 'Godforsaken'? And also, i'm from Australia, not Austria. Also, i don't believe that that quote is talking about America, but i suppose it is open to opinion, given that it doesn't specifically state what said nation is.

      Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
      Are we not the richest country? That means the Lord has blessed us...

      Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

      And are we not the most strongest country? That is our reward for our faithfulness.

      Proverbs 28:25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.




      This should answer your question.
      Just for the record, Australia is now the most obese country, by percentages, obviously, given Australia has less than 10 percent of America's population.

      I just had a quick read of the link you showed me. The diagrams still show that we are all related. And i especially still don't understand how white American's, and white Australian's are different? Perhaps you could specifically explain this to me.

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      • Bible Student
        Master of Biblical Study and Ancient Languages
        With Jesus now.
        True Christian™
        • Dec 2010
        • 2474

        #4
        Re: False statement?

        Originally posted by Buddy-Love View Post
        Originally Posted by Rev. Jim Osborne
        Welcome to God's Favorite Forum™, friend. I'd be happy to answer some of your questions.

        First off, I'm sorry you were born in Abo and have to live in Godforsaken Austria. But if you want to know why America is God's Favorite Country, you just have to look at the Bible. While it doesn't mention "America" specifically, (for how could it, the word was not invented until much later!) it is clear that America is God's chosen people...

        1 Peter 2:9 (KJV) ~ But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.
        I may have been born in Australia, but i am white. Ultimately, i am no different from those of you who live in America. Can i ask why Australia is 'Godforsaken'?
        Rev. Jim just took the time out of his extremely busy schedule to explain it to you. Which words in 1 Peter 2:9 are you having trouble understanding?
        YiJC, BS

        II Peter 1:4 -- Whereby are giuen vnto vs exceeding great and precious promises, that by these you might bee partakers of thy diuine nature, hauing escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.

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        • Buddy-Love
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          #5
          Re: False statement?

          Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
          Welcome to God's Favorite Forum™, friend. I'd be happy to answer some of your questions.

          First off, I'm sorry you were born in Abo and have to live in Godforsaken Austria. But if you want to know why America is God's Favorite Country, you just have to look at the Bible. While it doesn't mention "America" specifically, (for how could it, the word was not invented until much later!) it is clear that America is God's chosen people...

          1 Peter 2:9 (KJV) ~ But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light.


          Are we not the richest country? That means the Lord has blessed us...

          Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

          And are we not the most obese country? That is our reward for our faithfulness.

          Proverbs 28:25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.




          This should answer your question.
          Originally posted by Bible Student View Post
          Rev. Jim just took the time out of his extremely busy schedule to explain it to you. Which words in 1 Peter 2:9 are you having trouble understanding?
          I'm sorry if i have offended you or Rev. Jim, or done something wrong mate. I am simply trying to understand. It is not so much the words from 1 Peter 2:9 that i don't understand, i simply feel like said words do not describe America.

          I am not sure how two people of the same ethnicity, descended from the same people, who live in different countries, yet one is superior to the other. I am simply trying to understand how God thinks i am a 'dog' because i live in a different country. If i moved to America, would i lose my dog status? And likewise, if somebody moved from America to Australia, would they instantly become a dog?

          Once again, no disrespect meant. I am just trying to find out why i am being shoved into a stereotype simply based on the fact that i don't live in America.

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          • Nobar King
            Municipal Code Archivist - Deuteronomy 28:58
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            True Christian™
            • Sep 2007
            • 23748

            #6
            Re: False statement?

            If you think that God loved Australia that much why would it be covered in water right now?
            May you be a blessing to every life you touch.

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            • James Hutchins
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              • Jun 2009
              • 29453

              #7
              Re: False statement?

              Originally posted by Buddy-Love View Post
              I may have been born in Australia, but i am white. Ultimately, i am no different from those of you who live in America. Can i ask why Australia is 'Godforsaken'? And also, i'm from Australia, not Austria. Also, i don't believe that that quote is talking about America, but i suppose it is open to opinion, given that it doesn't specifically state what said nation is.



              Just for the record, Australia is now the most obese country, by percentages, obviously, given Australia has less than 10 percent of America's population.

              I just had a quick read of the link you showed me. The diagrams still show that we are all related. And i especially still don't understand how white American's, and white Australian's are different? Perhaps you could specifically explain this to me.
              Simply put, all you abos are children of criminals and should never be trusted.
              Americans are all children of people who have been persecuted for their religious beliefs. As the Bible tells us, we are blessed by that persecution.

              Fry that on your 'barbie'!
              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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              • Buddy-Love
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                #8
                Re: False statement?

                Originally posted by Nobar King View Post
                If you think that God loved Australia that much why would it be covered in water right now?
                I'm not saying God loves any country more than another. If anything, i would think it would be important to him that people worship him, not where they happen to live.

                And by your logic, God doesn't love America as well, as if i am correct, you have tornadoes, cyclones, fires, flooding, as well as the September 11 terrorist attacks. Just putting it out there that you can make solid arguments that God hates any region, and once again that i believe that God cares more about ones beliefs rather than where one lives.

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                • Buddy-Love
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                  #9
                  Re: False statement?

                  Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                  Simply put, all you abos are children of criminals and should never be trusted.
                  Americans are all children of people who have been persecuted for their religious beliefs. As the Bible tells us, we are blessed by that persecution.

                  Fry that on your 'barbie'!
                  WOW. Just wow mate. Firstly, i am not aboriginal. Secondly, my family migrated to Australia in the 1960's, hardly during the time when convicts were being sent to Australia. Also, i don't know how much knowledge you have outside of the bible, and religion, but aboriginals, and the convicts are completely different things. The aboriginals were in Australia for thousands of years before convicts were sent to Australia. The fact that you called me both an aboriginal and a descendant from convicts, shows that you don't have any idea what you are talking about.

                  I just want to say, that i started this thread in a fashion that i feel is completely respectful. I was trying to learn. However responses like this where i am called an aboriginal, and a convict, all in the one sentence, show that some people have no respect for others.

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                  • Brother Helge
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                    True Christian™
                    • Jan 2010
                    • 1074

                    #10
                    Re: False statement?

                    Originally posted by Buddy-Love View Post
                    The fact that you called me both an aboriginal and a descendant from convicts, shows that you don't have any idea what you are talking about.
                    Interbreeding?
                    "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
                    John 8:32

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                    • Rev. Jim Osborne
                      True Christian™ Televangelist
                      Director of Fundraising and Tithing
                      On the Look Out for Wife #6!
                      True Christian™
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 8622

                      #11
                      Re: False statement?

                      Originally posted by Buddy-Love View Post
                      Just for the record, Australia is now the most obese country, by percentages, obviously, given Australia has less than 10 percent of America's population.
                      That's exactly my point! Your nation is cursed. The Bible tells us that God Hates Fat People. If your nation leads the world in obesity, obviously God hates you.

                      I just had a quick read of the link you showed me. The diagrams still show that we are all related. And i especially still don't understand how white American's, and white Australian's are different? Perhaps you could specifically explain this to me.
                      Well, the tree breaks down when it gets to "white people", but you have to admit that's pretty general. I mean Frenchies and Spaniards are by definition white people, but they're obviously inferior. Unfortunately, Pastor Billy-Reuben's tree does not elucidate the matter further so I will attempt...

                      White People
                      |
                      Germanic - Romanist - Slav - Other
                      -------
                      Germanic: Scandinavian, German, and English
                      Romanist: French, Spanish, Italian, etc.
                      Slav: Russia, Slovakian, Hungarian, Serbian, etc.
                      Other: etc.
                      ----------
                      GERMANIC

                      Scandinavian
                      |
                      Swedes, Nords, Finns, Danes, etc.
                      German
                      |
                      German, Dutch
                      English
                      |
                      American, Australian, Canadian (so you see, you are cousins, but not THE Chosen People. Still better off than spics or wops though)
                      ----------
                      Romanist
                      |
                      French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian
                      Spanish
                      |
                      Portuguese, Mexican, Central American, General Spic
                      -----
                      Slav
                      |
                      Russian, Slovakian, Czech, Hungarian, Croatian, Serbian, Montenegrin, Kosovoan, Bosnian, Georgian, etc. random worthless races, all the same basically
                      ----
                      Other: Any "white" person that doesn't fit in the above areas

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                      • Buddy-Love
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                        #12
                        Re: False statement?

                        Originally posted by Helge Fossmo View Post
                        Interbreeding?
                        That would be applicable if he had called just me an aboriginal and a convict, but he called ALL 'abos' which i presume in his unintelligent way of saying Australian, convicts. Meaning he thinks that 'abo' and convict, or i suppose descendant of convict is more accurate, are interchangeable words.

                        By the logic shown in this thread, there are 'rednecks' in America, and there are also Mexicans, therefore everyone in America is a Mexican redneck. Do you see the intelligence you guys have shown?

                        I bet you are actually the product of interbreeding, hiding in the one place where people don't realise what you are, the internet

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                        • Buddy-Love
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                          #13
                          Re: False statement?

                          Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                          That's exactly my point! Your nation is cursed. The Bible tells us that God Hates Fat People. If your nation leads the world in obesity, obviously God hates you.
                          This is a quote from you, from the first page of this thread:

                          Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                          Are we not the richest country? That means the Lord has blessed us...

                          Proverbs 10:22 The blessing of the LORD, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.

                          And are we not the most strongest country? That is our reward for our faithfulness.

                          Proverbs 28:25 He that is of a proud heart stirreth up strife: but he that putteth his trust in the LORD shall be made fat.
                          Uh oh. I suppose that means we are more faithful than you.

                          You are now arguing with yourself, so either way, you lose. Once again, no disrespect meant, but you are just contradicting yourself now.



                          Originally posted by Rev. Jim Osborne View Post
                          Well, the tree breaks down when it gets to "white people", but you have to admit that's pretty general. I mean Frenchies and Spaniards are by definition white people, but they're obviously inferior. Unfortunately, Pastor Billy-Reuben's tree does not elucidate the matter further so I will attempt...

                          White People
                          |
                          Germanic - Romanist - Slav - Other
                          -------
                          Germanic: Scandinavian, German, and English
                          Romanist: French, Spanish, Italian, etc.
                          Slav: Russia, Slovakian, Hungarian, Serbian, etc.
                          Other: etc.
                          ----------
                          GERMANIC

                          Scandinavian
                          |
                          Swedes, Nords, Finns, Danes, etc.
                          German
                          |
                          German, Dutch
                          English
                          |
                          American, Australian, Canadian (so you see, you are cousins, but not THE Chosen People. Still better off than spics or wops though)
                          ----------
                          Romanist
                          |
                          French, Spanish, Italian, Romanian
                          Spanish
                          |
                          Portuguese, Mexican, Central American, General Spic
                          -----
                          Slav
                          |
                          Russian, Slovakian, Czech, Hungarian, Croatian, Serbian, Montenegrin, Kosovoan, Bosnian, Georgian, etc. random worthless races, all the same basically
                          ----
                          Other: Any "white" person that doesn't fit in the above areas
                          I still don't see the difference between American and Australians. So consider the following scenario:

                          Two identical twins are born in England. For sake of argument, lets just say they are identical in every way, including beliefs. One moves to America, and the other to Australia. All of a sudden, one becomes a chosen person, and God loves him more than the other? And then if they were to suddenly change places, and swap countries, does God's love swap between the brothers?

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                          • Buddy-Love
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                            #14
                            Re: False statement?

                            Ok, since i cannot reply to the personal message, i will reply via this thread.

                            "Dear Buddy-Love,

                            You have received an infraction at The Landover Baptist Church Forums.

                            Reason: Insulting people
                            -------
                            That was a very hurtful and hateful thing to say to Helge Fossmo. You really should owe him an apology. Our forum expects everybody to be respectful and polite and you crossed the line on that one.
                            -------

                            This infraction is worth 25 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

                            Original Post:
                            http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?p=675285
                            Quote:
                            Quote:
                            Originally Posted by Helge Fossmo
                            Interbreeding?

                            That would be applicable if he had called just me an aboriginal and a convict, but he called ALL 'abos' which i presume in his unintelligent way of saying Australian, convicts. Meaning he thinks that 'abo' and convict, or i suppose descendant of convict is more accurate, are interchangeable words.

                            By the logic shown in this thread, there are 'rednecks' in America, and there are also Mexicans, therefore everyone in America is a Mexican redneck. Do you see the intelligence you guys have shown?

                            I bet you are actually the product of interbreeding, hiding in the one place where people don't realise what you are, the internet
                            All the best,
                            The Landover Baptist Church Forums"



                            I want to point out that the lack of respect began from other posters. I was insulted several times, and called the product of interbreeding, before i retaliated. However, i am sorry if i have offended anyone. But don't i deserve the same respect?

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                            • Brother Helge
                              True Christian™
                              True Christian™
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 1074

                              #15
                              Re: False statement?

                              Originally posted by Buddy-Love View Post
                              I was insulted several times, and called the product of interbreeding, before i retaliated. However, i am sorry if i have offended anyone. But don't i deserve the same respect?
                              I did not call you "the product of interbreeding". It was meerly a suggestion/question.

                              Just out of curiosity - do you consider interbreeding to be a bad thing?
                              Last edited by Brother Helge; 01-15-2011, 11:23 AM. Reason: spelling
                              "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free."
                              John 8:32

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