[Bible Student]

Re: Hello

Originally Posted by Zechariah Smyth
Please provide some scriptural references for your bizarre claims.

Keep to the KJV.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

Well, sincerly, I do not think it is necessary to provide something from a book that was written by men. I've alredy said once.

So you prefer books written by plants, or animals or space aliens?

Do you think that one day God sat down at a table with some men, by candlelight and personally wrote the Holy Bible with a quill pen?

How many times do you have to be told that when we say the 1611 King James Bible is God-breathed, we mean that God personally inspired each of the men who translated that tome?

What makes you think God has quills in heaven anyway? If you knew anything about the 1611 King James Bible you would know that God writes with his finger.

Exodus 31:18 -- And he gaue vnto Moses, when hee had made an end of communing with him vpon mount Sinai, two tables of Testimonie, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Daniel 5:5 -- In the same houre came forth fingers of a mans hand, and wrote ouer against the candlesticke vpon the plaister of the wall of the Kings palace, and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote.

And as we see from that passage, God certainly might use a candle if one is already available. And again in the New Testament Jesus uses his finger to write.

John 8:6 -- This they said, tempting him, that they might haue to accuse him. But Iesus stouped downe, and with his finger wrote on the ground as though he heard them not.

Please, do not feel superior when you talk and respect the rest of the world that does not follow at the letter your religion. Do not sin of pride and conceitedness saying you are the best and that only your religion is true.
This is an exchange of opinions, I asked some questions, but do not seem you read them carefully. Because I receive only strange answers, meaningless or incomplete.
If what I declare it's weird for you, much of what you say and tell it is fool to me.
But I can respect your point of view if you respect mine and do not judge me.
I am a curious person and am interested in your culture. Can we talk quietly?

Do you have a noisy computer? How much more quiet can a conversation be than type typing on a soundless keyboard? Maybe in your backwards country, you people still use teletype machines?

[Minollo]

Re: Hello

So you prefer books written by plants, or animals or space aliens?

No! I prefer books written by robots. Androids sometimes...

How many times.... ** bla bla bla ** If you knew anything about the 1611 King James Bible ** bla bla bla **

YAWN... oh, come on... what was the language that was spoken in that country at the time of Jesus? Aramaic? Jewish?
I don't want to know anything about 1611 kjb, I don't care about 1611 kjb. I have my Bible on the bedside table and that's okay.
In my country, I read an Italian translation explaining what Jesus and his disciples said and did (and what happened before the birth of Christ, of course), French read a version in French, Spanish in Spanish, Japanese one in Japanese, and so on ...
And there are dozens of versions for each language, yours is one of many. And any translation can be wrong in some parts.

In all honesty, I do not think your version is better than others.

Do you have a noisy computer? How much more quiet can a conversation be than type typing on a soundless keyboard? Maybe in your backwards country, you people still use teletype machines?

Ah ah ah... funny. You have understand what I wanted to say. We can discuss without you insult me, accuse me and best wishes for eternal damnation every time. You can not judge me.

You know, I hope the rest of the world never learn to behave like you. If this happens one day, would be dark times.
It would not be different from a dictatorial regime such as nazist/fascist, communist, or religious as can happen with any kind of fundamentalists.
People would live in fear.

[Bible Student]

Re: Hello

Originally Posted by Bible Student
So you prefer books written by plants, or animals or space aliens?

No! I prefer books written by robots. Androids sometimes...

Originally Posted by Bible Student How many times do you have to be told that when we say the 1611 King James Bible is God-breathed, we mean that God personally inspired each of the men who translated that tome?

What makes you think God has quills in heaven anyway? If you knew anything about the 1611 King James Bible you would know that God writes with his finger.

Exodus 31:18 -- And he gaue vnto Moses, when hee had made an end of communing with him vpon mount Sinai, two tables of Testimonie, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Daniel 5:5 -- In the same houre came forth fingers of a mans hand, and wrote ouer against the candlesticke vpon the plaister of the wall of the Kings palace, and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote.

And as we see from that passage, God certainly might use a candle if one is already available. And again in the New Testament Jesus uses his finger to write.

John 8:6 -- This they said, tempting him, that they might haue to accuse him. But Iesus stouped downe, and with his finger wrote on the ground as though he heard them not.

YAWN... oh, come on... what was the language that was spoken in that country at the time of Jesus? Aramaic? Jewish?
I don't want to know anything about 1611 kjb, I don't care about 1611 kjb. I have my Bible on the bedside table and that's okay.
In my country, I read an Italian translation explaining what Jesus and his disciples said and did (and what happened before the birth of Christ, of course), French read a version in French, Spanish in Spanish, Japanese one in Japanese, and so on ...
And there are dozens of versions for each language, yours is one of many. And any translation can be wrong in some parts.

In all honesty, I do not think.

Originally Posted by Bible Student Do you have a noisy computer? How much more quiet can a conversation be than type typing on a soundless keyboard? Maybe in your backwards country, you people still use teletype machines?

Ah ah ah... funny. You have understand what I wanted to say. We can discuss without you insult me, accuse me and best wishes for eternal damnation every time. You can not judge me.

Alas, this poor soul is lost eternally. No matter how many times we have shown him he is wrong, he still doesn't get it. How may posts have there been in this thread alone, showing you verses that God, Himself instructs us that True Christians(tm) are suppose to judge you and other Unsaved Trash like you?

You know, I hope the rest of the world never learn to behave like you.

Naturally a spawn of the devil would say something like that. If we, as True Christians(tm) did not act like this and say these things to you, we would be condemning ourselves to eternal damnation just like you are doing. And we see, in your great compassion, you would want others to condemn themselves to the same hellfire to which you are going. And yet somehow as an atheist, you think your behavior is Christian?

If this happens one day, would be dark times.
It would not be different from a dictatorial regime such as nazist/fascist, communist, or religious as can happen with any kind of fundamentalists.
People would live in fear.

True Christians live in joy knowing they have been saved by the Blood of Baby Jesus. Those who follow your advice and do not follow every single God-breathed word of the 1611 King James Bible are the ones who live in fear, and rightly so. I too would live in fear if I spit in the face of Baby Jesus by ignoring some of his Holy Word and twisting them with other foul languages as you suggest doing.

[Bible Student]

Re: Hello

Originally Posted by Bible Student
So you prefer books written by plants, or animals or space aliens?

No! I prefer books written by robots. Androids sometimes...

Name ten such titles.

Originally Posted by Bible Student How many times do you have to be told that when we say the 1611 King James Bible is God-breathed, we mean that God personally inspired each of the men who translated that tome?

What makes you think God has quills in heaven anyway? If you knew anything about the 1611 King James Bible you would know that God writes with his finger.

Exodus 31:18 -- And he gaue vnto Moses, when hee had made an end of communing with him vpon mount Sinai, two tables of Testimonie, tables of stone, written with the finger of God.

Daniel 5:5 -- In the same houre came forth fingers of a mans hand, and wrote ouer against the candlesticke vpon the plaister of the wall of the Kings palace, and the king saw the part of the hand that wrote.

And as we see from that passage, God certainly might use a candle if one is already available. And again in the New Testament Jesus uses his finger to write.

John 8:6 -- This they said, tempting him, that they might haue to accuse him. But Iesus stouped downe, and with his finger wrote on the ground as though he heard them not.

YAWN... oh, come on... what was the language that was spoken in that country at the time of Jesus? Aramaic? Jewish?
I don't want to know anything about 1611 kjb, I don't care about 1611 kjb. I have my Bible on the bedside table and that's okay.
In my country, I read an Italian translation explaining what Jesus and his disciples said and did (and what happened before the birth of Christ, of course), French read a version in French, Spanish in Spanish, Japanese one in Japanese, and so on ...
And there are dozens of versions for each language, yours is one of many. And any translation can be wrong in some parts.

In all honesty, I do not think.

Originally Posted by Bible Student Do you have a noisy computer? How much more quiet can a conversation be than type typing on a soundless keyboard? Maybe in your backwards country, you people still use teletype machines?

Ah ah ah... funny. You have understand what I wanted to say. We can discuss without you insult me, accuse me and best wishes for eternal damnation every time. You can not judge me.

Alas, this poor soul is lost eternally. No matter how many times we have shown him he is wrong, he still doesn't get it. How may posts have there been in this thread alone, showing you verses that God, Himself instructs us that True Christians™ are suppose to judge you and other Unsaved Trash like you?

You know, I hope the rest of the world never learn to behave like you.

Naturally a spawn of the devil would say something like that. If we, as True Christians™ did not act like this and say these things to you, we would be condemning ourselves to eternal damnation just like you are doing. And we see, in your great compassion, you would want others to condemn themselves to the same hellfire to which you are going. And yet somehow as an atheist, you think your behavior is Christian?

If this happens one day, would be dark times.
It would not be different from a dictatorial regime such as nazist/fascist, communist, or religious as can happen with any kind of fundamentalists.
People would live in fear.

True Christians live in joy knowing they have been saved by the Blood of Baby Jesus. Those who follow your advice and do not follow every single God-breathed word of the 1611 King James Bible are the ones who live in fear, and rightly so. I too would live in fear if I spit in the face of Baby Jesus by ignoring some of his Holy Word and twisting them with other foul languages as you suggest doing.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello

French read a version in French

I hope you're not thinking of the Jerusalem Bible

I read an Italian translation

How do you know it isn't influenced by Roman Catholicism

[Minollo]

Re: Hello

I hope you're not thinking of the Jerusalem Bible

How do you know it isn't influenced by Roman Catholicism

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. What is its connection with France and a French translation?

For me the Bible are all the same, they differ only in the translation ( translation which may be wrong in some parts)
I can not prove anything about my Italian Bible. Similarly, you can not prove that your 400years old American Bible is the only true Bible. Just because your people and your pastors tell you that is so, does not mean it's true.

[Bible Student]

Re: Hello

Originally Posted by MitzaLizalor
I hope you're not thinking of the Jerusalem Bible

How do you know it isn't influenced by Roman Catholicism

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. What is its connection with France and a French translation?

I think Sister MitzaLizalor has to baby down her posts. The depths of your ignorance of biblical matters is glaringly obvious. Doesn't your browser do Google searches? Borrow a friend's computer and search for Jerusalem Bible. Note to Sister MitzaLisalor: this child is still on milk and is not yet ready for meat.

For me the Bible are all the same, they differ only in the translation ( translation which may be wrong in some parts)

If they differ in translation then they are not equal nor the same. But we would expect a stupid statement like yours especially considering you pick up things on the Internet but can't verify them, because you can't read ancient Hebrew, nor Greek, and probably not even Latin. Heck you pretend to be an expert on Bibles and don't even know the significance of the Jerusalem Bible as it relates to French.

Let me show you why you are wrong in your assumption. If a Hebrew passage says that "the dog ate the bone" and it is translated as "God ate the bone" are they conveying the same meaning? [When referring to God, many time the definite article 'the' is placed before 'God' in Hebrew and Greek.]

I can not prove anything about my Italian Bible. Similarly, you can not prove that your 400years old American Bible is the only true Bible. Just because your people and your pastors tell you that is so, does not mean it's true.

While we as True Christians always listen to our pastors and reverends, some of us also confirm our beliefs with direct knowledge. We can read the original languages, we know the history of our true bible and all those fakes, such as what you are reading. And we even have Google on our browsers.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Hello

Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. What is its connection with France and a French translation?

For me the Bible are all the same, they differ only in the translation ( translation which may be wrong in some parts)
I can not prove anything about my Italian Bible. Similarly, you can not prove that your 400years old American Bible is the only true Bible. Just because your people and your pastors tell you that is so, does not mean it's true.

Dear Repulsive Dago Demon;

There can be only ONE True Version of the Holy Word of God. Please read my sermon on the subject HERE.

Then shut your blasphemous wop mouth and repent.

YIC,

--Pastor Ezekiel

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello

I think Sister MitzaLizalor has to baby down her posts. The depths of your ignorance of biblical matters is glaringly obvious. Doesn't your browser do Google searches? Borrow a friend's computer and search for Jerusalem Bible. Note to Sister MitzaLisalor: this child is still on milk and is not yet ready for meat.




If they differ in translation then they are not equal nor the same. But we would expect a stupid statement like yours especially considering you pick up things on the Internet but can't verify them, because you can't read ancient Hebrew, nor Greek, and probably not even Latin. Heck you pretend to be an expert on Bibles and don't even know the significance of the Jerusalem Bible as it relates to French.

Let me show you why you are wrong in your assumption. If a Hebrew passage says that "the dog ate the bone" and it is translated as "God ate the bone" are they conveying the same meaning? [When referring to God, many time the definite article 'the' is placed before 'God' in Hebrew and Greek.]


While we as True Christians always listen to our pastors and reverends, some of us also confirm our beliefs with direct knowledge. We can read the original languages, we know the history of our true bible and all those fakes, such as what you are reading. And we even have Google on our browsers.

I thought my post was fairly concise.

I have heard of an American King James version, I think: is it reliable? When I look at different English translations I do notice that most of them are similar (although the differences are often very significant) BUT THE CATHOLIC DOUAY-RHEIMS VERSION OFTEN HAS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE which mystifies me: it is obviously false: is it the same with Italian translations? Are they translated from the original or from the Vulgate? I don't know.

Any comments appreciated.

[Bible Student]

Re: Hello

Originally Posted by Bible Student
I think Sister MitzaLizalor has to baby down her posts. The depths of your ignorance of biblical matters is glaringly obvious. Doesn't your browser do Google searches? Borrow a friend's computer and search for Jerusalem Bible. Note to Sister MitzaLisalor: this child is still on milk and is not yet ready for meat.




If they differ in translation then they are not equal nor the same. But we would expect a stupid statement like yours especially considering you pick up things on the Internet but can't verify them, because you can't read ancient Hebrew, nor Greek, and probably not even Latin. Heck you pretend to be an expert on Bibles and don't even know the significance of the Jerusalem Bible as it relates to French.

Let me show you why you are wrong in your assumption. If a Hebrew passage says that "the dog ate the bone" and it is translated as "God ate the bone" are they conveying the same meaning? [When referring to God, many time the definite article 'the' is placed before 'God' in Hebrew and Greek.]


While we as True Christians always listen to our pastors and reverends, some of us also confirm our beliefs with direct knowledge. We can read the original languages, we know the history of our true bible and all those fakes, such as what you are reading. And we even have Google on our browsers.

I thought my post was fairly concise.

I think that might be part of the problem. I think with Mini you have to use lots of words and repeat them over and over again.

I have heard of an American King James version, I think: is it reliable? When I look at different English translations I do notice that most of them are similar (although the differences are often very significant)

As you remarked, the newer translations of the 1611 King James Bible change lots of words. Some very similar, and some that might confer an entirely different aura of understanding. Plus all the marginalia and footnotes to the 1611 King James Bible have been deleted as well as the Apocryphal books that were in the original.

BUT THE CATHOLIC DOUAY-RHEIMS VERSION OFTEN HAS THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE which mystifies me: it is obviously false: is it the same with Italian translations? Are they translated from the original or from the Vulgate? I don't know.

Any comments appreciated.

The Douay Rheims is almost completely a translation of very, very late copies of Jerome's Latin Vulgate. More interesting is the sources used by Jerome. One thing we immediately notice is that the same Hebrew or Greek word will be translated differently to give particular emphasis on beliefs held by the Roman Catholic Church. Jerome was given explicit orders by Pope Damasus I to be ultra conservative in his translation. Jerome included quite a few prologs to the various Biblical books, usually notes from letters to other Early Christian writers, rarely on the texts themselves. Some but not all found their way into the Douay Rheims.

The Jerusalem Bible used what original sources were available at the time it was written. There were also the New Jerusalem Bible, the Jerusalem Reader, and the New Jerusalem Reader written in English with updated translations and footnotes. I haven't seen copies of the latter two since the early 1960s. They are particularly damnable works, even saying that the Genesis story of creation and the story of Noah's Ark were mythology taken from earlier Sumerian, Assyrian, Akkadian and Babylonian texts, The Epic of Gilgamesh and the Enuma Elis, as though God Himself was incapable of telling the stories with his own words. Those Catholic Bibles are to be entirely avoided.

As far as the Italian versions, I guess it would depend upon which translation is used. From Mini's constant errors I would think he uses the Italian version of the Douay Rheims a heathen book if there was one.

[Miss Fedora]

Re: Hello

I feel left out of my own forum introduction, However i know that the kjv of the bible in the english language is the only bible that will save you from hell.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hello

Originally Posted by Miss Fedora
better check which bible you are reading, you seem to have the wrong version.

Mr. Minollo suffers from a problem common among speakers of the gabbling tongues.
Those languages don't have enough words to choose from to actually express what anyone want to say, hence all the waving around of arms etc.
They seem surprised when you understand their remarks, and so to fill in time they just repeat themselves 2 or 3 times. It is what passes for "dialogue" - and although there may be 2 people speaking, no actual communication takes place.

FOR EXAMPLE:

This Sort of Thing:
Well, sincerly, I do not think it is necessary to provide something from a book that was written by men. I've alredy said once. Do you think that one day God sat down at a table with some men, by candlelight and personally wrote the Holy Bible with a quill pen?

So the Minollo knows:
1 we believe The Bible
2 we accept that it is God's word (not something made up by men).
3 The Bible states that people who do not accept God's Perfect Love will go to Hell

Naturally we listened to his questions and answered them, just as we listened to you Miss Fedora and answered your questions.

4 Minollo does not respect our opinions
5 I certainly cannot respect any of the Bible-denying detritus he is posting
6 this is not an exchange of opinions

the Minollo:
This is an exchange of opinions, I asked some questions, but do not seem you read them carefully. Because I receive only strange answers, meaningless or incomplete.
If what I declare it's weird for you, much of what you say and tell it is fool to me.
But I can respect your point of view if you respect mine and do not judge me.

JOHN 14:6

7 Minollo is going to Hell