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  • #16
    Re: simple question

    Originally posted by Rationality View Post
    the title says it all. Ive come here today to ask but one question. Why? why do you feel the need to bash gays, Catholics, Muslims, etc, all in the name of your god. Before you stop here and post something about how i am going to hell, please. i employ you, read the entire of my post and give me an answer to my question.


    First off, i have read through a few pages of posts, and have seen more grammar mistakes and completely illogical/ obviously false posts here than ive seen on any forum ever. there was one post, of which i do not remember the author, but this is what it said. "This is God's Favorite Forum, so when we're here, we only speak God's Favorite Language (the one He wrote the Bible in): English."
    1: God did not write the bible. Jesus didn't write the bible. His deciles did not write the bible. it wasn't until decades after Christ's death that the first copies of the bible were made. which brings me to my next point below.
    2: in 90 AD, the Americas weren't even conceived of. nobody had any clue (except possibly the Phoenicians/ vikings) that there was this whole new world thousands of miles away, so there is no way that it was written in "American english". it wasnt even written in english. it was written in Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic. needless to say, none of the information in that quote above is in any way, shape, or form true.

    Next i would like to ask another question. I am a 16 year old boy who lives in michigan. every day, i go to school, follow the rules, and obey the law. ive never smoked, drank, or done anything substantially "unholy", but i also dont believe in god. (at this point, many of you may stop reading, but please, keep going. prove me wrong, in that i think you wont read the whole thing.) why, i ask, would god smite one of his own creations, if he has done nothing wrong? why send me to hell only because i don't believe in him? this may sound ludicrous to some of you, but think long and hard about this. any rational being (god, i think you would agree, must be rational) would look upon me as a simple ant walking around. not affecting anything, not harming others, just sitting there minding my own business. now, would god come up to me, see me carrying my little bit of food on my back, and step on me just because i don't believe he is real? is god really a mean kid with a magnifying glass burning harmless little ants? i dont go around spreading my ideas. (this post isn't intended to convert anybody, or to change anybody's beliefs in any way. i simply want to see other rational people's point of view on this.) i dont go around spreading satanic thinking, or worshiping of the devil, i am simply sitting on my computer hitting little keys, and sending little bits of information to your forum. why would god damn me to hell, if i am a good person who volunteers, helps people out, and has a job to help keep my family going? please, answer me this, without citing any bible versus. the bible was NOT written by God. it was NOT written by Jesus. it was NOT written by the disciples. the bible is, in fact, a compilation of ideas given to a large group of people by a massive number of people. hundreds came to the "authors" of the bible, and asked them to put their ideas into the bible. absolutely none of it came DIRECTLY from jesus. but, i digress. to prove that you have done what i asked of you, and read through the entire post, put the word "Watermelon" at the very end of your post.


    Thank you for your time.
    Is it, as I have stated again and again, my policy to ignore the errors of English (God's holy language) and to focus instead on the content of the post, however, badly written. But my policy has an exception for posters who decry the grammar mistakes of others when they themselves fail absolutely miserably in capitalization and punctuation and say such things as "I employ you" instead of "I implore you."

    You see, child, this is what God does. He makes you make yourself look absolutely silly with your arrogant little post about how stupid we are while all the while you are off on some rambling, illiterate diatribe.

    Yes, God wrote the Bible. Yes, God created us and put us here on earth, which He also created, to worship him. If you are a good person, then this is wonderful. But if you create a toaster, and the purpose is to toast bread, and the toaster says "Well, I have decided that I am here to open Pepsi bottles," well, what do you do. Opening Pepsi bottles is a perfectly useful thing, but you do not need this. You created the toaster for another purpose. "Obey!" you command the toaster, and the toaster says, "Screw you." I do what I want, I have free will."

    This rebellious and snotty little toaster is rejecting the task you specifically built it for, and is blowing toast crumbs right in your face. "I am a bi-curious little Michigan toaster," the toaster continues, "who doesn't believe that you built me anyway. I just "appeared" magically on your kitchen counter, and I don't see why you would hurt me just because I refuse to carry out my primary mission and instead will spend my time here in your kitchen staring at the jeans the other toasters are wearing trying to discern the outline of their penises and checking out the biceps and the fresh, masculine smell of the waffle iron."

    Well, I will tell you what I would do. I would grab this little toaster by the cord and take it outside and throw it in the pond or smash it with my sledge hammer. I did not create a toaster to snot off to me. I created it to make TOAST, which this toaster refuses to do.

    This is how God sees you. Psalm 100 reads: Make a joyful noise unto the LORD, all ye lands. Serve the LORD with gladness: come before his presence with singing. Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture. Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name.

    In Matthew 22, the disciples (see how that's spelled) and our Lord "Master, which is the great commandment in the law?" Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind." Read also Deuteronomy 6:5, 10:12; Mark 12:30 and Luke 10:27

    This is the first and great commandment. For the LORD is good; his mercy is everlasting; and his truth endureth to all generations.
    "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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    • #17
      Re: simple question

      you, a foot-washing baptist (sorry if that is considered offensive. i couldn't think of any other word to describe your thoughts), are quoting Martin Luther, the founder of Lutheranism?
      Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
      abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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      • #18
        Re: simple question

        Poor spelling, punctuation and capitalization is just as uneducated as poor grammar and improper choice of words. You most certainly cannot produce text riddled with errors of the English language and still maintain that you are educated because you properly conjugate the verbs. You are a C student.

        It is one thing to be a know-nothing, but you are an arrogant know-nothing, and that is the worst kind.
        "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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        • #19
          Re: simple question

          Yes, God wrote the Bible. Yes, God created us and put us here on earth, which He also created, to worship him. If you are a good person, then this is wonderful. But if you create a toaster, and the purpose is to toast bread, and the toaster says "Well, I have decided that I am here to open Pepsi bottles," well, what do you do. Opening Pepsi bottles is a perfectly useful thing, but you do not need this. You created the toaster for another purpose. "Obey!" you command the toaster, and the toaster says, "Screw you." I do what I want, I have free will."

          This rebellious and snotty little toaster is rejecting the task you specifically built it for, and is blowing toast crumbs right in your face. "I am a bi-curious little Michigan toaster," the toaster continues, "who doesn't believe that you built me anyway. I just "appeared" magically on your kitchen counter, and I don't see why you would hurt me just because I refuse to carry out my primary mission and instead will spend my time here in your kitchen staring at the jeans the other toasters are wearing trying to discern the outline of their penises and checking out the biceps and the fresh, masculine smell of the waffle iron."




          aah, you did indeed find a few mistakes in my grammar. but ive found ooh so many more in posts in this forum. i dont use capitalization on computers, as you can obviously tell. but why is English "God's language"? i dont believe english existed when god created the universe.

          i have a few things to say about this quote of yours.

          1: if i had billions of toasters who made toast, why would i care if a few toasters didnt obey?

          2: where do you get the idea that i am bi-curious? is anybody that doesnt fully agree with your ideas instantly bi-curious? is that itself not ignorant? to place a label on somebody you know very little about? you calling me bi-curious would be like me calling you a transexual. i have no idea if its true, but i dont like your beliefs, so ill call you this anyway.

          3: if god came up to me and said "bitch, do as i say" you had better believe that i would listen. but, if i am so unimportant in the eyes of god, that he can't give me any more reassurance than a book, i dont see why he would care that i dont believe?
          Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
          abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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          • #20
            Re: simple question

            Originally posted by ExGay Alex View Post
            Poor spelling, punctuation and capitalization is just as uneducated as poor grammar and improper choice of words. You most certainly cannot produce text riddled with errors of the English language and still maintain that you are educated because you properly conjugate the verbs. You are a C student.

            It is one thing to be a no-nothing, but you are an arrogant no-nothing, and that is the worst kind.



            that would be "Know-nothing". also, punctuation and capitalization are still, for lack of a better term, "parts" of grammar. i just see no need in capitalization of words that are unimportant. i capitalize proper nouns and such, but no every sentence.
            Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
            abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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            • #21
              Re: simple question

              Originally posted by Godmocking Rationality View Post
              that would be "Know-nothing". also, punctuation and capitalization are still, for lack of a better term, "parts" of grammar. i just see no need in capitalization of words that are unimportant. i capitalize proper nouns and such, but no every sentence.
              Don't misquote me. It's dishonest. I understand that there is no "edit" button, and while the system does not allow us to reformat our own posts, which might explain why you post with so many mistakes. But it does allow you to dishonestly rephrase the posts of others. Shame on you. Proverbs 14:5.
              "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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              • #22
                Re: simple question

                Originally posted by Godmocking Rationality View Post
                aah, you did indeed find a few mistakes in my grammar. but ive found ooh so many more in posts in this forum.
                Yes, but not from people who criticize the grammar of others.

                i dont believe english existed when god created the universe.
                Everything existed when God created the universe. How do YOU know it wasn't there?

                1: if i had billions of toasters who made toast, why would i care if a few toasters didnt obey?
                You would smash them as a warning to the toasters who do.

                2: where do you get the idea that i am bi-curious? is anybody that doesnt fully agree with your ideas instantly bi-curious? is that itself not ignorant? to place a label on somebody you know very little about? you calling me bi-curious would be like me calling you a transexual. i have no idea if its true, but i dont like your beliefs, so ill call you this anyway.
                Satan inspires your atheism and I am sure Satan has you in the clutches of his other temptations. It is not possible to be atheist and not at the very least bi-curious, if not fully gay. You cannot deny that you masturbate to internet porn in which males are present.

                3: if god came up to me and said "bitch, do as i say" you had better believe that i would listen. but, if i am so unimportant in the eyes of god, that he can't give me any more reassurance than a book, i dont see why he would care that i dont believe?
                Well, God uses an English that is slightly more refined. And who says you are NOT important in the eyes of God? Is this what you think, because of your sexuality? Jesus said in Matthew Chapter 10:30 "But the very hairs of your head are all numbered." Everything and everyone is important to God, our creator.

                Christ goes on: "Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows. Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."

                That should answer your question.
                "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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                • #23
                  Re: simple question

                  i didnt re-phrase your comment. i simply was showing you that you made mistakes as well. we all make mistakes, and we all point out the mistakes of others. you all have yet to answer any of my questions with a valid point that i was unable to invalidate:

                  why would god send ME to hell, if i am a good person, live by the rules, but do not follow him blindly?

                  why label me as "bi-curious"? that one, i am very interested in. more so than my main question. your name, Alex, leads me to believe you were gay at one point? are you truly happy now that you have "switched back"? science, which is something most all people in biblical times didn't understand, shows that homosexuality spawns from a gene. for every child that the parents have, the odds of having a gay baby grow higher and higher. so, the youngest son has a higher chance of being gay. tell me, are you a younger sibling? there are studies to prove what i have said, but not a study exists that proves god's reality.
                  Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                  abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                  • #24
                    Re: simple question

                    Originally posted by Godmocking Rationality View Post
                    i didnt re-phrase your comment. i simply was showing you that you made mistakes as well. we all make mistakes, and we all point out the mistakes of others. you all have yet to answer any of my questions with a valid point that i was unable to invalidate:

                    why would god send ME to hell, if i am a good person, live by the rules, but do not follow him blindly?

                    why label me as "bi-curious"? that one, i am very interested in. more so than my main question. your name, Alex, leads me to believe you were gay at one point? are you truly happy now that you have "switched back"? science, which is something most all people in biblical times didn't understand, shows that homosexuality spawns from a gene. for every child that the parents have, the odds of having a gay baby grow higher and higher. so, the youngest son has a higher chance of being gay. tell me, are you a younger sibling? there are studies to prove what i have said, but not a study exists that proves god's reality.
                    u are pretty kool becuz i hate it when they pick on my spelling, the first time i posted i got a infraction for buchering the english language, they can be a little strict her sometimes, but i also can see that u changed that guys quote, i think that probly not so cool, i hope u are not "queer' cuz I think thats so gross!!! but i didnt no it was cuased by a gene, is there really a study that says that, maybe u can post it here? i dont think there is one, i am short becuz of a gene but i didnt no they proved it with gays, and also if u are not gay i can c why u r so worried he would think so, it is realy gross.

                    did u no you can cook with cheetoh's? take 3 cups of cheetos and put them in the food processor and then add in 1 cup of parmesan cheeze then put some milk in a bowl then take some chicken and put in in the milk and then run it thru the chetos and coat them and bake it!! DEELIshous!! Hope you enjoy!! god bless and glad u r not gay.
                    Paying for the sins of my hateful parents since pre-birth. Jeremiah 32:18. Now cooking for Jesus as inspired by Deuteronomy 8:3.

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                    • #25
                      Re: simple question

                      oops, because of the one post per 300 seconds on this forum, i was unable to see that you had answered my questions. anyway,

                      "Everything existed when God created the universe. How do YOU know it wasn't there?"
                      how do YOU know that it did? if everything already exsisted, how, then, does god exist? explaine to me how something can have no beginning, and no end, but still be "the alpha and the omega"? how something can never have started, but is all knowing? surely it must know its beginning if it knows everything.

                      "I smash them as a warning to the toasters who do."
                      Christianity at its best. Do what i say, or i will smash you like a toaster.

                      "Satan inspires your atheism and I am sure Satan has you in the clutches of his other temptations. It is not possible to be atheist and not at the very least bi-curious, if not fully gay. You cannot deny that you masturbate to internet porn in which males are present."

                      Satan inspires nothing in me. Satan is simply an excuse for the folly of man. whenever something is done wrong, "ooh! it was Satan!". this gets us nowhere. and who said i am atheist? i just dont believe in YOUR god. i believe that there is something out there that is higher than we, but i dont think its a guy with a white beard looking down at us from haven. i dont think he created only humans. and i absolutely dont believe that his goal is simply for us to follow him. what purpose does that serve him, unless god is simply an attention hungry teenager who wants the glorification of others worshiping him? it doesnt make sense.
                      Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                      abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                      • #26
                        Re: simple question

                        Originally posted by Godmocking Rationality View Post
                        i didnt re-phrase your comment. i simply was showing you that you made mistakes as well.
                        I double-checked my own post. See for yourself.

                        why would god send ME to hell, if i am a good person, live by the rules, but do not follow him blindly?
                        You don't "live by the rules" and not follow God's laws. It's impossible.

                        why label me as "bi-curious"? that one, i am very interested in. more so than my main question. your name, Alex, leads me to believe you were gay at one point? are you truly happy now that you have "switched back"? science, which is something most all people in biblical times didn't understand, shows that homosexuality spawns from a gene. for every child that the parents have, the odds of having a gay baby grow higher and higher. so, the youngest son has a higher chance of being gay. tell me, are you a younger sibling? there are studies to prove what i have said, but not a study exists that proves god's reality.
                        Your "science" is ridiculous. If two parents have a child, the chances of it being this or that have nothing to do with how many other children there are. You God-mockers are all alike. When you have no answer, you just make things up.

                        I was, like you, tempted in my youth by Satan towards others of the same gender, but, through prayer, I have cast Satan out and am no longer gay, Praise Jesus! I am proof of God's existence and the power of prayer, and that is enough study for me.
                        "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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                        • #27
                          Re: simple question

                          and if i am important to god, why doesnt he talk to me personally? if he is Omnipotent, he has the power to talk to everybody at the same time. he wouldn't waste any of his time coming to each and every individual.
                          Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                          abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                          • #28
                            Re: simple question

                            Originally posted by Godmocking Rationality View Post
                            ... unless god is simply an attention hungry teenager who wants the glorification of others worshiping him? it doesnt make sense.
                            I don't think you and God have that much in common.
                            "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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                            • #29
                              Re: simple question

                              well, its 2:35 in the morning here, so im going to head off to bed. ill be back tomorrow to continue this, as i hope you will as well. thank you for making this dull Friday night, slightly invigorating.

                              i leave you with this little article i found a while ago. my oldest brother, who just majored in psychology, told me about it a couple years ago.

                              Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                              abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                              • #30
                                Re: simple question

                                Originally posted by Godmocking Rationality View Post
                                and if i am important to god, why doesnt he talk to me personally? if he is Omnipotent, he has the power to talk to everybody at the same time. he wouldn't waste any of his time coming to each and every individual.
                                He speak to you through True Christians.


                                Originally posted by Godmocking Rationality View Post
                                well, its 2:35 in the morning here, so im going to head off to bed. ill be back tomorrow to continue this, as i hope you will as well. thank you for making this dull Friday night, slightly invigorating.

                                i leave you with this little article i found a while ago. my oldest brother, who just majored in psychology, told me about it a couple years ago.

                                http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...icle679681.ece
                                Have a nice sleep. I like your article that says that the men are more likely to be gay if they have many older brothers, and I especially like that your OLDEST brother brought it to your attention.

                                It's flawed of course. It comes from Canada, so enough said. Men who grow up in a house full of older brothers and uncles are more likely to be gay simply because they grow up around more naked men. It's not genetic. It is the temptation of the devil in a house full of sweaty, hairy males.
                                "Come Unto Me. Put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath." (Matthew 19:14, Job 1:11).

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