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[Willow]

Hi,

I am a 20 year old young woman living in the Uk. I came across the website whilst browsing religious material on the internet. I have been studying religions all my life, and I came across your article entitled "Suffer not a witch to live!". Unfortunately, the references made in the article to the word 'witch' are technically incorrect. When King James II translated the Bible, an event any true Christian knows happened, he incorrectly translated a couple of words. Because of the word 'enchanter' in the verse, he assumed another word to be 'witch', when in actual fact, it meant 'thief'. This makes sense in that you shouldn't trust 'people who try to deceive you, or steal your stuff', quite simply.

I feel that believing and trusting in the Bible is fine, but when the information you are provided with is flawed, it seems only fair that you are given the correct story.

On another note, I also saw the article about the life-sized jar jar binks, and I haven't yet figured out from the images online where the supposed orifices are :/.

Thanks, and hello to everyone.

[Brother Harold Porter]

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This is not a debate forum, nor a platform to apologize for filthy witches. Perhaps you missed this?

Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

Please dispense with the blasphemy and introduce yourself.

In Christ

[Shela Tansper]

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So are you saying some of the Bible isn't true

[Willow]

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I apologise. I did not realise that stating a fact would be 'apologising for filthy witches'. I thought that the word from God (i.e. the original meaning) would in fact be considered more important than the incorrectly translated word of King James. Surely the mistranslation is blasphemy then? :/ I think you're being rather rude, I didn't come here looking for a fight, or a debate.

I go to Cavalry Baptist Church in Liverpool, and my favourite Bible verse is
Passage 2 Corinthians 4:17-18. I didn't find Jesus, I don't believe he is there to be 'found', I trust in his presence, believe in our God, and have been on that path since birth.

[Shela Tansper]

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Your surname isn't rosenberg by any chance is it

[Willow]

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Shela, I am not saying some of it isn't true, I don't think that at all. The Bible I accept as true, it is just King James' mistake that I think should be corrected, as many will blindly follow it despite it being a falsehood, as his translation of 'witch' instead of 'thief' was not true to God's word.

Sorry I saw your reply after I replied already, so had to wait 5 minutes before I could submit my reply to you.

And no I'm not a character from Buffy.

[Jack O'fagan]

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Hi,

I am a 20 year old young woman living in the Uk. I came across the website whilst browsing religious material on the internet. I have been studying religions all my life, and I came across your article entitled "Suffer not a witch to live!". Unfortunately, the references made in the article to the word 'witch' are technically incorrect. When King James II translated the Bible, an event any true Christian knows happened, he incorrectly translated a couple of words. Because of the word 'enchanter' in the verse, he assumed another word to be 'witch', when in actual fact, it meant 'thief'. This makes sense in that you shouldn't trust 'people who try to deceive you, or steal your stuff', quite simply.

I feel that believing and trusting in the Bible is fine, but when the information you are provided with is flawed, it seems only fair that you are given the correct story.

On another note, I also saw the article about the life-sized jar jar binks, and I haven't yet figured out from the images online where the supposed orifices are :/.

Thanks, and hello to everyone.

Ok, can you please supply the source of your information. We only use the King James 1611 but this is how the following other demonic versions translate that passage.

American Standard Version, "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live"

The Message "Don't let a sorceress live"

NIV "Do not allow a sorceress to live"

New Living Translation "You must not allow a sorceress to live"

Some of these, especially the NASB say that thet looked at the original texts.

Where did you get your information? Did you find it in a cracker?

Jack

[Willow]

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The Hebrew word used in the original texts is 'chasaph', whose literal translation is 'poisoner'. I incorrectly wrote thief earlier, because it is one of the Bible versions I had to study in my degree. I had it mixed up. It is meant to be 'enchanter or poisoner'. The reason why many versions of the Bible stick with the concept of witch is probably just because it's easier to stick with that idea, than to combat it. Assuming poisoner to be intended as 'witch' would be assumptive, whereas it should really be taken much more literally, poisoner, or even more so, someone who intends to kill you.

[RevDrJack]

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The Hebrew word used in the original texts is 'chasaph', whose literal translation is 'poisoner'. I incorrectly wrote thief earlier, because it is one of the Bible versions I had to study in my degree. I had it mixed up. It is meant to be 'enchanter or poisoner'. The reason why many versions of the Bible stick with the concept of witch is probably just because it's easier to stick with that idea, than to combat it. Assuming poisoner to be intended as 'witch' would be assumptive, whereas it should really be taken much more literally, poisoner, or even more so, someone who intends to kill you.

Well what does a witch do besides enchanting and poisoning? A witch is a witch is a witch. If you are trying to get us to stop using the KJV 1611 and use some new and improved version, you are sadly mistaken in your judgment.

YIC

[Willow]

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Wow, saying one word is incorrect clearly means you should revoke a whole book. I was saying that the word used in many texts is wrong. If you're going to take a book literally then take it literally. Don't infer from enchanter and poisoner that it means witch. Because then its not the same thing. And you are therefore being blasphemous to God, because you seek to imply that his words were wrong, and he actually meant something else.

[Jack O'fagan]

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I would still be interested in seeing the source of your information,

All the translations I can find seem to suggest sorceress and suggest your idea is incorrect. I am happy to be proved wrong,

מְכַשֵּׁפָה לֹא תְחַיֶּה

Jack

[RevDrJack]

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Wow, saying one word is incorrect clearly means you should revoke a whole book. I was saying that the word used in many texts is wrong. If you're going to take a book literally then take it literally. Don't infer from enchanter and poisoner that it means witch. Because then its not the same thing. And you are therefore being blasphemous to God, because you seek to imply that his words were wrong, and he actually meant something else.

You are the one who came here uninvited and started tell us that the word witch really means thief, no it means enchanter and poisoner. You can not make me stop reading my Holy Bible, and stop worshipping God, and stop praising Jesus for a dispute over words when you can't decide which word you want to use.

Here are some Holy words for you to read:

1Ti 6:3 If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
1Ti 6:4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings,
1Ti 6:5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

I hereby withdraw from this person who cannot decide what מְכַשֵּׁפָה לֹא תְחַיֶּהmeans.
YIC

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Hi,

I am a 20 year old young woman living in the Uk. I came across the website whilst browsing religious material on the internet. I have been studying religions all my life, and I came across your article entitled "Suffer not a witch to live!". Unfortunately, the references made in the article to the word 'witch' are technically incorrect. When King James II translated the Bible, an event any true Christian knows happened, he incorrectly translated a couple of words. Because of the word 'enchanter' in the verse, he assumed another word to be 'witch', when in actual fact, it meant 'thief'. This makes sense in that you shouldn't trust 'people who try to deceive you, or steal your stuff', quite simply.

I feel that believing and trusting in the Bible is fine, but when the information you are provided with is flawed, it seems only fair that you are given the correct story.

On another note, I also saw the article about the life-sized jar jar binks, and I haven't yet figured out from the images online where the supposed orifices are :/.

Thanks, and hello to everyone.

This is a Christian forum, not a platform for filthy feminazi witch lies. You're supposed to introduce yourself! What church does your husband take you to? How many fish and chips do you eat in a day? How many teeth have you got left? And so on.

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[Willow]

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Oh btw the PM I received is technically at fault. In my second post I did answer the questions asked in this forum .

[Willow]

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Wow this has gotten surprisingly boring. You go somewhere, tell people about your church and your favourite Bible passage and end up getting told off for.... not doing those things. Clearly abilities to read here have been blinded by divine judgement.