Introduction of a Ninja member.

[French Fool]

Good morning or afternoon to you all.

I have discovered this forum purely by chance, through a link somebody sent me. Actually I thought it was a joke, since the thead I fell on was about comparing Anne Frank to Adolf Hitler. I will not discuss the quality of information gathered and judged in the mention thread, it's not the purpose here.

I felt extremely curious about the member of this forum and what could drive them to believe what they believe. I see this as an experience.

I was born in a catholic family in France, was baptised and had all the sacres we consider as standard. Yet further in my life I had some experiences, met people, read a lot and thought about my spiritual nature, and I was driven away from the chatholic dogma. I made the choice not to follow the trail my parents put me on, a trail they were put on more for geographic and family context reasons than spiritual awareness.

So I think most of people from your forum will consider me as a sinner, and I fully accept this judgement, since in your dogma, I present all characteristics of the sinner.

I have other beliefs, which are purely mine, and I clearly don't have the arrogance of making you change your mind about yours (nor do I have the will to do it), I just need to understand what makes an integrist believer who he is.

I hope our difference of history, opinions and purpose will not put too much limitations in our discussions which promis to be quite ... agitated!

After all, the moto of this forum is "Unsaved Welcome", so don't ban me yet.

Talk to you very soon.

Good day.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Introduction of a Ninja member.

Good morning or afternoon to you all.

I have discovered this forum purely by chance, through a link somebody sent me. Actually I thought it was a joke, since the thead I fell on was about comparing Anne Frank to Adolf Hitler. I will not discuss the quality of information gathered and judged in the mention thread, it's not the purpose here.

I felt extremely curious about the member of this forum and what could drive them to believe what they believe. I see this as an experience.

I was born in a catholic family in France, was baptised and had all the sacres we consider as standard. Yet further in my life I had some experiences, met people, read a lot and thought about my spiritual nature, and I was driven away from the chatholic dogma. I made the choice not to follow the trail my parents put me on, a trail they were put on more for geographic and family context reasons than spiritual awareness.

Good for you! Catholics are false Christians of the worst order.

So I think most of people from your forum will consider me as a sinner, and I fully accept this judgement, since in your dogma, I present all characteristics of the sinner.

I have other beliefs, which are purely mine, and I clearly don't have the arrogance of making you change your mind about yours (nor do I have the will to do it), I just need to understand what makes an integrist believer who he is.

I hope our difference of history, opinions and purpose will not put too much limitations in our discussions which promis to be quite ... agitated!

After all, the moto of this forum is "Unsaved Welcome", so don't ban me yet.

Talk to you very soon.

Good day.

Better read it again, friend.

Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Faith_Machine]

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I hope our difference of history, opinions and purpose will not put too much limitations in our discussions which promis to be quite ... agitated!

It's awfully presumptuous of you to think that you and I are going to be discussing anything.

Also, what is this "Ninja" nonsense? Are you one of those repulsive "juggalloes" or something?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Introduction of a Ninja member.

Dear Frenchie;

If you want to post on God's favorite forum, you'll need to go take a bath.

Use soap this time.

If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

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Welcome to our forum, friend. I am glad to hear that you are giving up your false religion and have come here looking for true faith. The Lord is so good!

There is one minor thing I would like to correct you on. You talk about "our dogma" and "our opinions", but they aren't ours -- our doctrines and opinions come straight from the Bible. They are God's doctrines and opinions.

It's not we that consider you to be an unsaved sinner. God considers you to be an unsaved sinner, and we know that because we read and understand the Bible. You will find precious little posted in this forum that represents our personal opinions.

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Pastor Billy-Reuben]

Re: Introduction of a Ninja member.

Dear Frenchie;

If you want to post on God's favorite forum, you'll need to go take a bath.

Use soap this time.

Isn't that the truth. To most Frenchmen, taking a bath means applying perfume on top of B.O.

It is my understanding that this is a documentary about typical Frenchmen:

Pastor Billy-Reuben

[Faith_Machine]

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There's a reason syphilis is referred to as "the French disease."

[landoverlover]

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There's a reason syphilis is referred to as "the French disease."

A study revealed the average French adult male uses 2.6 bars of soap each year.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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A study revealed the average French adult male uses 2.6 bars of soap each year.

What do the use them for?

Is that what "crape souzette" is made out of?

[Nobar King]

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You can use a bar of soap to lubricate the rails of drawers that might be sticking in your house.

[Faith_Machine]

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Let's not give anybody any ideas.

[French Fool]

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Hi all,

I am happy to see you are all so dedicated to respond to newcomers, unless of course I have a special treatment

First of all, I do not want to cast any discredit or mock anything about God's plan. Since I find it pure arrogance to even put a name on faith, it would be even more arrogant to mock what other people believe to be true.

So let me sum up this first part of thread:
- A stranger is introducing himself looking for potential idea exchange and debate (which again, doesn't mean mockery, only casting a different light on something we could have in common).
- Then he gets a few "welcoming" messages saying that after all he is not that welcomed, and he should be careful not to torn bible apart (which is again not my intention).
- Further on, some xenophobic statements about French people. I think I need to clear things up: We do take showers everyday . Of course we have people (just like in any other country) not really keen on hygene, but I think this clichée about France is now quite an overstatement since...more than a century.

But I must actually apologize for my people in France because they also have extremely bad clichés about US of America and its people about believing Earth is flat and sun turns around it. But those people have never been to America, so they cannot know or put words on what they haven't experienced. Thus I'll never blame you for doing the same.

Talking about experience: I have encountered many people claiming their acting upon God's name in all their actions (even sometimes driving other people to their death), but without having experiencing any kind of "unmaterial" experience. Meditation has been known as an exercise to experience the invisible almighty strength of what many call God (or any other name). Yet, very few people are practicing it... and yet putting a name on something they haven't really felt or seen yet.
Some call it Faith (believing without knowing), but actually the mecanism behind it is extremely similar to poor education.

Two problems in that way of doing: putting name on something which hasn't been experienced puts also a biais in people's mind they will never get rid of, even preventing themselves to make new experience, thus making them think they're experience is the only one valuable. The second problem in putting name or shape on something as almighty as God devalues it and makes it subject to wrong interpretation. Talking about fire to people will not make them feel warm, it will just give them an idea of how it is created. But unless they get burned, they will never know how fire feels.

So as you might have figured out, I do believe there is something way above us, transcending everything in this world, unsubject to time or space. But I don't know enough of it (and I think nobody ever will until death) to put a name on it. I have studied the Bible (when little boy, like any boy born in our country who is not really given the choice if parents tell him to do so), I have checked the Coran a little (but too little to be knowledgable about it), but I also have read several books on Buddhism, Tao, and Zen. I have also travelled a lot in several places of the world.

From what I could see, there is a common message behind the "words", but many people are just seing the word itself, and not the experience behind it, and then transmit this state of mind to their children. As generations are passing by, the biais gets bigger and bigger, and combining this to geographical stagnation of people, fear of the "stranger" grows with it. This is how we end up with groups like Al Queida, willing to murder people because of something that might have started with a simple labelling difference.
Other example is the Christian religion which had several branches. This religion has been torn apart. Existence of the Catholic Church is not the only example: in Peru, they depict Jesus' Last Supper... with him sharing a Guinea Pig instead of the Bread (in Peru, Guinea Pig is one of the dishes they serve). So actually, Christian religion had so many modifications it has been emptied of its actual meaning (and that's also probably the reason why it could have spread so quickly).
When you come to think of it, the fact that the Bible has been translated in so many languages, how can we have the guaranty that nothing of its original meaning has been lost with time, interpetation and language modifications?

Those are some of the questions that come to my mind when thinking about religions (any kind actually), and the more I travel and read, the more questions I have.

Thanks a lot to people who could have read this whole post without cursing me every 5 seconds .

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Introduction of a Ninja member.

Hi all,

I am happy to see you are all so dedicated to respond to newcomers, unless of course I have a special treatment

I think that if you look back over the history of the Introduction Forum, we are quite enthusiastic about welcoming Unsaved Trash. We do everything we can to get people to read the Bible and be saved: we don't want anyone to slip through the cracks!

(2 Peter 3:9) "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

First of all, I do not want to cast any discredit or mock anything about God's plan. Since I find it pure arrogance to even put a name on faith, it would be even more arrogant to mock what other people believe to be true.

The name is "Christianity." Why the hesitation about putting a name on it?

So let me sum up this first part of thread:
- A stranger is introducing himself looking for potential idea exchange and debate (which again, doesn't mean mockery, only casting a different light on something we could have in common).
- Then he gets a few "welcoming" messages saying that after all he is not that welcomed, and he should be careful not to torn bible apart (which is again not my intention).
- Further on, some xenophobic statements about French people. I think I need to clear things up: We do take showers everyday . Of course we have people (just like in any other country) not really keen on hygene, but I think this clichée about France is now quite an overstatement since...more than a century.

The "unwelcome" is there plain as day: I was only pointing it out to you.

And please don't confuse people pointing out the poor hygiene of the french with xenophobia: many of us have had the advantage (sic) of having lived in france, so we know of what we speak.

If you see true instance of xenophobia or racism in any form, please notify a pastor at once.

But I must actually apologize for my people in France because they also have extremely bad clichés about US of America and its people about believing Earth is flat and sun turns around it. But those people have never been to America, so they cannot know or put words on what they haven't experienced. Thus I'll never blame you for doing the same.

Who cares what the french think about Americans? You could walk up to anybody in the USA and ask them, "Hey, do you care what the french think about you?" I imagine you would get some colorful responses, all negative.

Talking about experience: I have encountered many people claiming their acting upon God's name in all their actions (even sometimes driving other people to their death), but without having experiencing any kind of "unmaterial" experience. Meditation has been known as an exercise to experience the invisible almighty strength of what many call God (or any other name). Yet, very few people are practicing it... and yet putting a name on something they haven't really felt or seen yet.
Some call it Faith (believing without knowing), but actually the mecanism behind it is extremely similar to poor education.

Please point out a SINGLE instance where you feel a True Christian™ appears to be poorly educated scripturally. I am sure they will be put in a remedial Bible study course.

Two problems in that way of doing: putting name on something which hasn't been experienced puts also a biais in people's mind they will never get rid of, even preventing themselves to make new experience, thus making them think they're experience is the only one valuable. The second problem in putting name or shape on something as almighty as God devalues it and makes it subject to wrong interpretation. Talking about fire to people will not make them feel warm, it will just give them an idea of how it is created. But unless they get burned, they will never know how fire feels.

How can one devalue God? That's just retarded!

(Romans 1:20) "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse."

So as you might have figured out, I do believe there is something way above us, transcending everything in this world, unsubject to time or space. But I don't know enough of it (and I think nobody ever will until death) to put a name on it. I have studied the Bible (when little boy, like any boy born in our country who is not really given the choice if parents tell him to do so), I have checked the Coran a little (but too little to be knowledgable about it), but I also have read several books on Buddhism, Tao, and Zen. I have also travelled a lot in several places of the world.

That's just being a typical namby-pamby frenchman. If you were to study your KJV Bible you would have the guts and knowledge to put a name on "it" and start praising God like He intended. That's so easy even a european could understand it.

From what I could see, there is a common message behind the "words", but many people are just seing the word itself, and not the experience behind it, and then transmit this state of mind to their children. As generations are passing by, the biais gets bigger and bigger, and combining this to geographical stagnation of people, fear of the "stranger" grows with it. This is how we end up with groups like Al Queida, willing to murder people because of something that might have started with a simple labelling difference.
Other example is the Christian religion which had several branches. This religion has been torn apart. Existence of the Catholic Church is not the only example: in Peru, they depict Jesus' Last Supper... with him sharing a Guinea Pig instead of the Bread (in Peru, Guinea Pig is one of the dishes they serve). So actually, Christian religion had so many modifications it has been emptied of its actual meaning (and that's also probably the reason why it could have spread so quickly).
When you come to think of it, the fact that the Bible has been translated in so many languages, how can we have the guaranty that nothing of its original meaning has been lost with time, interpetation and language modifications?

God has an answer for this: the 1611 KJV Bible. That is the operating manual that you need. Anything else is a pile of rubbish.

Those are some of the questions that come to my mind when thinking about religions (any kind actually), and the more I travel and read, the more questions I have.

Thanks a lot to people who could have read this whole post without cursing me every 5 seconds .

Profanity is frowned upon here, friend. Please see my sig line.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[JustGotSaved]

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Thank you for using paragraphs. Nothing worse than a wall of text. It is greatly appreciated.

However it still glazed my eyes over because nothing that i saw was interesting. No offense, but even a wall of well-paragraphed text is still knock-me-dead mind-bogglyling dull unless i know you or have any kind of interest in you.

We get a lot of newbie folks here coming in with their opinions or desires to politely discover and debate and, well, it just gets tiresome.

Best to you anyway. Good luck on your adventures and all.

Perhaps i should have just not written anything, since i dont have anything to say, but it's too late now--i wrote all this and someone's going to gol-darn well read it!

[Kyle.K.Kenworth]

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sir, i only recently came to this God lovin' site, and you have it all wrong. if you think your beliefs are purely yours, you need to wake up and smell the king james bible. they are from the devil, and the devil alone. does it not say, "and i will send a spirit of deception to the non believers, that they may think they are right."?