[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: a year old christian

Just a year ago I was at the harvest crusade, I decided to give my life to Jesus Christ then. It was tough for me. I've been to HC a couple of times but this was the first time i went down to the stadium. I said the prayer and I broke out in tears. i was excited. Ive never felt this way before. but now all the energy is gone and i feel like i didn't really receive Christ. the temptations are getting stronger, and i dont feel the love. i cant fully understand what Christ did for me. i just cant grasp it. can Christians help me understand? i just dont get it

I every thread on this forum, you have revealed yourself to be a godmocking troll. I have no doubt that satan sent you here to spew hatred. Get thee hence.

[Bible Student]

Re: a year old christian

Originally Posted by Pastor Isaac Peters
If they didn't know about something that God wanted in the Bible, why didn't He just tell them about it? You seem to think that God works in slapdash ways.

So the way to prove that it was God's work was by copying a myth about a false god? I don't see how. Indeed, that would seem to prove the exact opposite.

Then how would you explain the epic of Gilgamesh and the flood story and also the similarity in the book of Ecclesiastes or Norse’s Gods and Horus. I also read about the Sumerians and the ten commandment look similar to the Hammurabi’s Code, from the 19th century BC. That’s what I think happen.

Either I am totally lost, or you are totally lost. I'd put my money on you being lost.

You have totally jumbled history from different millennia all together. Can you quote from Ecclesiastes to show how it is similar to the Epic of Gilgamesh or the Flood story? What do the Norse gods have to do with the Egyptian god Horus? What passages in Ecclesiastes mention the Norse gods or the Egyptian gods or have passages in common with books on those false gods?

And we see more anachronisms with your mention of the Sumerians. Their civilization was around 4000 BC, and generally refer to the time civilization was just getting started with Adam and Eve, and the Nephilim, and the Tower of Babel. The Ten Commandments were given by God to Moses who lived in the 13th century BC. Hammurabi reigned from 1792 to 1750 BC. The only evidence of his laws (282 of them) come from twelve stelae of unknown provenance and were only discovered in the 20th century AD. For all anyone can prove, the stones were carved well after God carved the Ten Commandments on the two tablets of stone. Now those who study stories tell us that they get more and more complex with each retelling. So what is more probable, that 282 laws got cut down to a mere 10 with each generation's retelling? Or that 10 Commandments kept growing larger and larger until they numbered 282 with each retelling? That twelve tablets got cut down to two tablets with each retelling, or that two tablets kept growing to twelve?

And again what do the 50th century BC Sumerians, and the 18th century BC Hammurabi have to do with the Book of Ecclesiastes which was written by King Solomon in the 10th century BC? Can you pick a few specific verses and show us?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: a year old christian

Learn your history my friend.

So let's see whether I understand your view of the Bible. God cobbled together some preexisting pagan myths, which somehow suddenly became true when He did it. He promised repeatedly to preserve the result, but He either couldn't or wouldn't fulfill His promise, since people kept leaving out parts out of either ignorance or a desire to keep down the peasants. Is that right?

[babdah]

Re: a year old christian

Are you totally dense?

The King James Bible is the unaltered and unambiguous only true account of the deeds and wishes of God.

Learn your history my friend.

You claim to have studied religion and yet you are incapable of seeing how Jesus temporarily died for you to teach you a lesson and what that means for True Christians!

Yes, I have it leaves so many questions but when I prayed for guidance onto were to look, guess what,God showed me nothing

Why are you so angry, dear friend

I came looking for answers as to why i couldn't hear God, and other question and no one showed me nothing.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: a year old christian

Really, Ancient savages, what was he Israelite, savages also. if they existed before the bible then who copied who? if they were pagan fables then how did they get into the bible, almost the same story, from both. Lets get real i come for answers in which you dont have! Now i wonder if God even exist, I followed his laws and everything but i never heard his voice, is he a lair or does he not exists, and all you can do his though verses at me like i am to be able to understand.

Are you totally dense?

The King James Bible is the unaltered and unambiguous only true account of the deeds and wishes of God. All else you mention is ancient scribblings by uneducated savages grubbing round for explanations for their fears and ignorance. You claim to have studied religion and yet you are incapable of seeing how Jesus temporarily died for you to teach you a lesson and what that means for True Christians!

Either you are deliberately pretending to be stupid to provoke us or God has smitten you in the brain as I alluded earlier.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: a year old christian

Really, Ancient savages, what was he Israelite, savages also. if they existed before the bible then who copied who? if they were pagan fables then how did they get into the bible, almost the same story, from both. Lets get real i come for answers in which you dont have! Now i wonder if God even exist, I followed his laws and everything but i never heard his voice, is he a lair or does he not exists, and all you can do his though verses at me like i am to be able to understand.

Why are you so angry, dear friend?

[babdah]

Re: a year old christian

We're not here to indulge in the ramblings of someone who can barely remember what he has typed from one second to the next and is obsessed with pagan nonsense and fable.

Just because pagan scribblings by ancient savages exist proves nothing. You may as well quote from The Tales of Peter Rabbit. You are looking for reasons to justify your leaning towards atheism, that much is clear. Small wonder you are being rebuked.

Really, Ancient savages, what was he Israelite, savages also. if they existed before the bible then who copied who? if they were pagan fables then how did they get into the bible, almost the same story, from both. Lets get real i come for answers in which you dont have! Now i wonder if God even exist, I followed his laws and everything but i never heard his voice, is he a lair or does he not exists, and all you can do his though verses at me like i am to be able to understand.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: a year old christian

Then how would you explain the epic of Gilgamesh and the flood story and also the similarity in the book of Ecclesiastes or Norse’s Gods and Horus. I also read about the Sumerians and the ten commandment look similar to the Hammurabi’s Code, from the 19th century BC.

I've given you my explanation: The devil pre-stole parts of the Bible. Either God or the devil was a copycat, and I see no reason to believe that it was God.

That’s what I think happen. The Church of England was idiots and he wants a divorce so he could marry anther women why do you think that they broke from the Catholic Church for. Yes, there were Gospel that the church of England did not know about and chose to leave them out because of the messages in them it was for control over there people.

1. You'll find no defenders of the Catholic-lite "Church" of England among us True Christians™.

2. How do you choose to leave out something that you don't know about?

I come to look for answers and all you guys do is try to twist my words around and you wonder why there is atheist. Now after speaking with this group of “church” goers I am thinking that maybe I should second guess my faith, because there is no logical reason because there are no logical people on this site.

If you need logical reasons, your faith must not have been very strong to begin with. I've told you what God says about thinking for yourself.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: a year old christian

Then how would you explain the epic of Gilgamesh and the flood story and also the similarity in the book of Ecclesiastes or Norse’s Gods and Horus. I also read about the Sumerians and the ten commandment look similar to the Hammurabi’s Code, from the 19th century BC. That’s what I think happen. The Church of England was idiots and he wants a divorce so he could marry anther women why do you think that they broke from the Catholic Church for. Yes, there were Gospel that the church of England did not know about and chose to leave them out because of the messages in them it was for control over there people. I come to look for answers and all you guys do is try to twist my words around and you wonder why there is atheist. Now after speaking with this group of “church” goers I am thinking that maybe I should second guess my faith, because there is no logical reason because there are no logical people on this site.

Look, friend. We're here to praise Jesus and show the world what it is to be a True Christian that believes in the Holy King James Bible.

We're not here to indulge in the ramblings of someone who can barely remember what he has typed from one second to the next and is obsessed with pagan nonsense and fable.

Just because pagan scribblings by ancient savages exist proves nothing. You may as well quote from The Tales of Peter Rabbit. You are looking for reasons to justify your leaning towards atheism, that much is clear. Small wonder you are being rebuked.

[babdah]

Re: a year old christian

If they didn't know about something that God wanted in the Bible, why didn't He just tell them about it? You seem to think that God works in slapdash ways.

So the way to prove that it was God's work was by copying a myth about a false god? I don't see how. Indeed, that would seem to prove the exact opposite.

Then how would you explain the epic of Gilgamesh and the flood story and also the similarity in the book of Ecclesiastes or Norse’s Gods and Horus. I also read about the Sumerians and the ten commandment look similar to the Hammurabi’s Code, from the 19th century BC. That’s what I think happen. The Church of England was idiots and he wants a divorce so he could marry anther women why do you think that they broke from the Catholic Church for. Yes, there were Gospel that the church of England did not know about and chose to leave them out because of the messages in them it was for control over there people. I come to look for answers and all you guys do is try to twist my words around and you wonder why there is atheist. Now after speaking with this group of “church” goers I am thinking that maybe I should second guess my faith, because there is no logical reason because there are no logical people on this site.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: a year old christian

No, I said that they left gospels out that they did not know about.

If they didn't know about something that God wanted in the Bible, why didn't He just tell them about it? You seem to think that God works in slapdash ways.

they took the pagan myth and to show how God mighty powers to prove that it was Gods work.

So the way to prove that it was God's work was by copying a myth about a false god? I don't see how. Indeed, that would seem to prove the exact opposite.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: a year old christian

No, I said that they left gospels out that they did not know about.

No you didn't!

You said this.

No i am not saying that the bible is a myth i said maybe they took the stories from other pagan myth to incorporate it into there own to prove a point and explain what had happen.

And this

they took the pagan myth and to show how God mighty powers to prove that it was Gods work.

You quite clearly said that pagan myths were incorporated into the Bible.

Are you on drugs?

Look if you're an atheist then just say so. At least they have the stones to say they hate God.

[babdah]

Re: a year old christian

So you're saying men wrote the Bible and just put bits in it that pleased them?

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Why do you hate God so much?

No, I said that they left gospels out that they did not know about.

If they took it from another myth, then it's not a myth anymore? Not following your reasoning here, friend

they took the pagan myth and to show how God mighty powers to prove that it was Gods work.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: a year old christian

No i am not saying that the bible is a myth i said maybe they took the stories from other pagan myth to incorporate it into there own to prove a point and explain what had happen.

So you're saying men wrote the Bible and just put bits in it that pleased them?

2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Why do you hate God so much?

[Didymus Much]

Re: a year old christian

No i am not saying that the bible is a myth i said maybe they took the stories from other pagan myth to incorporate it into there own to prove a point and explain what had happen.

If they took it from another myth, then it's not a myth anymore? Not following your reasoning here, friend.