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  • #16
    Re: Lost and need help

    Originally posted by Lostman View Post
    So as a christian we can still do whatever we want as long as we ask for forgiveness?
    No.

    This is difficult to understand for some people, but asking for forgiveness is only the first step toward true repentance. There are no Cliff Notes or Rosetta Stones for Redemption, my friend.

    If you are looking for shortcuts, you need to take a path that includes 31,000 (roughly) Bible verses.

    YiC,

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    • #17
      Re: Lost and need help

      Originally posted by Lostman View Post
      So as a christian we can still do whatever we want as long as we ask for forgiveness?
      Absolutely not.

      You may be able to play semantic games with yourself or with other people, but God sees right through them.
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      • #18
        Re: Lost and need help

        Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
        The fellow you're thinking of is Onan. If you read the relevant passage carefully, though, you'll see that Onan's sin was not simply the spilling of seed:




        Though it clearly displeases God when you murder unborn children by ejaculating anywhere other than a into a fertile womb, Onan's true sin was selfishness: He was spilling his seed in order to avoid doing his duty, which was to impregnate his dead brother's wife. He did not want to do this because he didn't want to give her children who would then be entitled to part of his fortune.

        In the case of our Brother Zechariah, there was probably no fertile womb within easy spitting distance, so it's just as well that he spat the seed onto the stomach of the man he'd been raping with his mouth. Had he swallowed the seed, I believe he would have also been guilty of cannibalism.

        You'll find that Zechariah is one of the Godliest, most heterosexual men you could ever hope to meet. The Lord really does have a knack from lifting people out of the lowest places and making them shine!
        Makes sense, but this brings another question. What you said implies that oral sex with a woman is a sin, as is wearing a condom or using birth control, even with your wife who you are encouraged by god to have sex with. Sex is supposed to be a thing of love, but what if you love your wife, and want to show her that by having mutual pleasure, but having a kid is out of the question due to financial or other reasons? Also what if she is not fertile? You said it displeases god to ejaculate somewhere other than a fertile womb.

        Also, what about wet dreams? You are ejaculating with no fertile womb with no fertile womb there as well. I'm just trying to understand, this is all new to me.

        Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
        Absolutely not.

        You may be able to play semantic games with yourself or with other people, but God sees right through them.
        Ok, i was just unsure, i just needed some clarification.

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        • #19
          Re: Lost and need help

          Originally posted by Lostman View Post

          Also, what about wet dreams?
          Deuteronomy 23:10 If there be among you any man, that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night, then shall he go abroad out of the camp, he shall not come within the camp: 11But it shall be, when evening cometh on, he shall wash himself with water: and when the sun is down, he shall come into the camp again.

          If you have a wet dream you must separate yourself from others for a day. You must clean yourself thoroughly.

          YIC

          Jack
          Genesis 22:2 And he said, Take now thy son, thine only son Isaac, whom thou lovest, and get thee into the land of Moriah; and offer him there for a burnt offering upon one of the mountains which I will tell thee of.

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          • #20
            Re: Lost and need help

            Originally posted by Jack O'fagan View Post
            Deuteronomy 23:10 If there be among you any man, that is not clean by reason of uncleanness that chanceth him by night, then shall he go abroad out of the camp, he shall not come within the camp: 11But it shall be, when evening cometh on, he shall wash himself with water: and when the sun is down, he shall come into the camp again.

            If you have a wet dream you must separate yourself from others for a day. You must clean yourself thoroughly.

            YIC

            Jack
            What is the reasoning for that? I cant just call off work because i jizzed myself while i was sleeping. I'd lose my job which would mean no more money which would mean i couldn't support my family which would mean i am not a real man. Man this stuff is confusing me. I hope i can reach the same level of understanding y'all have. Are we sure that the verse wasn't talking about someone crapping themselves in their sleep? That would make a lot more sense because that is horribly filthy and unsanitary and stinks like what i would assume the pits of hell smell like.

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            • #21
              Re: Lost and need help

              Originally posted by Lostman View Post
              What is the reasoning for that? I cant just call off work because i jizzed myself while i was sleeping. I'd lose my job which would mean no more money which would mean i couldn't support my family which would mean i am not a real man. Man this stuff is confusing me. I hope i can reach the same level of understanding y'all have. Are we sure that the verse wasn't talking about someone crapping themselves in their sleep? That would make a lot more sense because that is horribly filthy and unsanitary and stinks like what i would assume the pits of hell smell like.
              Good Lord, man: are you pooping in your sleep?

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              • #22
                Re: Lost and need help

                Originally posted by Lostman View Post
                I cant just call off work because i jizzed myself while i was sleeping. I'd lose my job...
                Any employer who fired you under those circumstances would be guilty of religious bigotry and discrimination. They'll let Muslims take extra breaks that other people don't get just so they can pray toward Mecca and plan bombings throughout the day, but they won't give you a day off to purify yourself after committing sleep sodomy.


                The next time you wake up with sticky man-goo all over the inside of your pajamas, I urge you to phone in to work and explain that you need to take the day off in accordance with God's law. If they fire or reprimand you, this would make an excellent test case for Landover's civil rights lawyers.
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                • #23
                  Re: Lost and need help

                  Originally posted by Zechariah Smyth View Post
                  Good Lord, man: are you pooping in your sleep?

                  I'm not, i was just saying haha

                  Originally posted by Faith_Machine View Post
                  Any employer who fired you under those circumstances would be guilty of religious bigotry and discrimination. They'll let Muslims take extra breaks that other people don't get just so they can pray toward Mecca and plan bombings throughout the day, but they won't give you a day off to purify yourself after committing sleep sodomy.


                  The next time you wake up with sticky man-goo all over the inside of your pajamas, I urge you to phone in to work and explain that you need to take the day off in accordance with God's law. If they fire or reprimand you, this would make an excellent test case for Landover's civil rights lawyers.
                  Ya know, you do have a very solid point i must say.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Lost and need help

                    Originally posted by Lostman View Post
                    Right, which is my plan, i just didn't want to go all out on my first post.....I have another question about the man to man oral. I remember a passage in the bible, i do not remember which book, or the mans name, but he was punished by god for spilling a seen on the ground. By spitting it out, haven't you wasted a seed and killed millions of sperm that should have been made into more human lives? That seems like a million abortions all wrapped up into one event. Which horrifies me.
                    Aren't you worrying about blowing yourself? I've heard that happens when you people powerfully stroke yourselves.

                    The mere idea of what you say horrifies me, and on Gods day, of days. Shame on you!
                    Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                    Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                    Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                    Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                    Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                    Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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