[Jacob L.]

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It is comfortable to live in a world knowing the truth of God (and with gates around our Church). You scoff and reject it but God is not mocked. We are safe and sound in the knowlege that the souls of people like you will be tortured in Hell for all eternity.

You have proven yourself to be a foul, deceitful Sodomite and have no place amongst us!

I'm not that worried, since I don't really believe in life after death. But I'm glad for you, since you believe in it, that you've found your way into heaven.

A question how soon/late is it possible to convert to be able to go to heaven?
For instance if I lie on my deathbed and get scared of dying and scared of actually being tortured for ever, will that be to late? (I guess it will) What do you have to accomplish before being accepted in heaven?
Also I read something on the site, that you have to be an American to be accepted. If someone like me from Europe wanted to join your church, would that be impossible then?

[Jacob L.]

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I argee, that's why we are realists, not extremists.

ROFL. Brainwashed extremist with a sense of humor

[Redeemed Papist]

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The continous qouting the Bible, just show me that you're are not capable of having one single individual thought, and you believe that everything that is right or wrong are written in the Bible,

You're getting it. Does this mean your tiresome drivel is at an end?

[Youth Pastor Marty]

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As I say, brainwash!
Must be comftorble to live in a world with shades. Always just using the same excuse and denying what is going on in the real world.
Being extreme is never good and it doesn't matter who/what it is. How do you cope with living in this world, you're surrounded by sin and sinners? It must be hard, or is it comfort enough to know that you chose the "right" way?

It is comfortable to live in a world knowing the truth of God (and with gates around our Church). You scoff and reject it but God is not mocked. We are safe and sound in the knowlege that the souls of people like you will be tortured in Hell for all eternity.

You have proven yourself to be a foul, deceitful Sodomite and have no place amongst us!

[Alphonse Alban]

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Being extreme is never good and it doesn't matter who/what it is.

I argee, that's why we are realists, not extremists.

[Jacob L.]

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You are totally wrong. There is one side that is right and that is the side of God, so there is nothing to debate. Bible is 100% correct as it is word of God, so there is nothing to argue.

As I say, brainwash!
Must be comftorble to live in a world with shades. Always just using the same excuse and denying what is going on in the real world.
Being extreme is never good and it doesn't matter who/what it is. How do you cope with living in this world, you're surrounded by sin and sinners? It must be hard, or is it comfort enough to know that you chose the "right" way?

[Alphonse Alban]

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debating is about winning and loosing! I can not continue argueing with you.
You just keep on posting quotes from the Bible, to me they are not arguments!

You are totally wrong. There is one side that is right and that is the side of God, so there is nothing to debate. Bible is 100% correct as it is word of God, so there is nothing to argue.

[Jacob L.]

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Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Job 15:8 Hast thou heard the secret of God? and dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself?

1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Nice job trying to second guess God but Jesus wins again! And you thought you were being so original.

Once again, great display of showing that you indeed are a champ reciting the Bible.
I resign, since you think debating is about winning and loosing! I can not continue argueing with you.
You just keep on posting quotes from the Bible, to me they are not arguments!
You concentrated on my second guessing GOD, actually it was a question to you, wether or not you are capable of making changes without GOD's direction.
The continous qouting the Bible, just show me that you're are not capable of having one single individual thought, and you believe that everything that is right or wrong are written in the Bible, to me there's one word for that...BRAINWASH!

[Redeemed Papist]

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I dont know, you know the Bible better than me, my guess would be nowhere. But even you accept certain development, I guess you even take them for granted? I can't be sure how you live your life, but my guess would be that you're a big part of the materialised world , like a lot of us, car, house, etc. But if GOD had wanted us to live the way we do now, wouldn't he just have created the world as the present? So in some ways you also chose thw things you can benefit from.

Romans 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

Job 15:8 Hast thou heard the secret of God? and dost thou restrain wisdom to thyself?

1 Corinthians 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.

Nice job trying to second guess God but Jesus wins again! And you thought you were being so original.

[Jacob L.]

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Where in the Bible does it say you can move with the times and disregard bits of it you just don't like any more?

I dont know, you know the Bible better than me, my guess would be nowhere. But even you accept certain development, I guess you even take them for granted? I can't be sure how you live your life, but my guess would be that you're a big part of the materialised world , like a lot of us, car, house, etc. But if GOD had wanted us to live the way we do now, wouldn't he just have created the world as the present? So in some ways you also chose thw things you can benefit from.

[Jacob L.]

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The Bible doesn't tell you what YOU should think of other people.

It tells you what GOD thinks of other people.

You are free to think whatever you like. And you are free to face the consequences for so doing.


That's nice. But as pointed out in the Amos scripture, and in other points in the Word, you should not associate with sinners and unbelievers unless you are in agreement with them. IN other words, a man is known by the company he keeps.

You choose to hang out with God-mockers and sodomites. That'd be fine if you were encouraging them to come to Jesus! But instead, you are telling them that their Hellbound deathstyle is fine and dandy. You're encouraging them on their path to unending torture.

Why do you hate atheists and homosexuals?

She gave you a link to Scripture which identifies you. Is it her fault you are too lazy to click it?

Thanx for your reply. I really like parts of it since you're not just qouting the bible, you're putting your own interpitation in to the argument. I don't necesarrily agree with you. But nice to meet a more nuanced argumentation. I understand what you're trying to say to me. I guess I have a big problem then, since I'm not gonna change anything about my friends, I accept them as they are. I understand from your reply that it doesn't matter what I do. I try to live my life as a good person, teaching my kids how to treat other people with respect, and making them understand it's alright to be different. And even though I started believing, it wouldn't matter, cause I'd still hang on to my friends....I'm doomed!

I know she gave me a link. And I'm not to lazy to read it. But as I mentioned several times before, I'm interested in peoples argumentation and their interpitation on the matter. It's difficult having a conversation with people constantly hitting you in the head with quotes. Now your answer will be that GOD is always right. What about the freedom of thought? I have a hard time beliveing that all christian understand the Bible in the excact same way. And to me that points towards individual interpitation.

I hope you understand I'm not here to provoke. I'm simply trying to widen my horizon and trying to understand more about christianity.

Sincerely Jacob

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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To me it's difficult to relate to a book (The Holy Bible) that tells me what I should think of other people.

The Bible doesn't tell you what YOU should think of other people.

It tells you what GOD thinks of other people.

You are free to think whatever you like. And you are free to face the consequences for so doing.

But to me all people are eaqual, and should be treated eaqually. It doesn't matter if they're black/white, homo/hetro, religeous/atheists.

That's nice. But as pointed out in the Amos scripture, and in other points in the Word, you should not associate with sinners and unbelievers unless you are in agreement with them. IN other words, a man is known by the company he keeps.

You choose to hang out with God-mockers and sodomites. That'd be fine if you were encouraging them to come to Jesus! But instead, you are telling them that their Hellbound deathstyle is fine and dandy. You're encouraging them on their path to unending torture.

Why do you hate atheists and homosexuals?

You say you have identified me, so who am I, then?

She gave you a link to Scripture which identifies you. Is it her fault you are too lazy to click it?

Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.

[Redeemed Papist]

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Well that's your of interpeting. But not excactly what I meant. I'm takling about about living in present time. Not living in the past. I'm also glad that the USA stopped slavery, equal rights for black people. I'm not just concentrating on homosexuality, though it would make it easier for you to hate me even more.
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Where in the Bible does it say you can move with the times and disregard bits of it you just don't like any more?

[Jacob L.]

So you're willing to change, but only in ways that promote sodomy. Do I have that correct?

Well that's your of interpeting. But not excactly what I meant. I'm takling about about living in present time. Not living in the past. I'm also glad that the USA stopped slavery, equal rights for black people. I'm not just concentrating on homosexuality, though it would make it easier for you to hate me even more.
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[Billy Bob Jenkins]

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I'll choose my friends ecxactly as I have always done. And if they are homosexuals so be it. I'm not affraid of my future or what ever will happen when I'm dead!
By the way, I might be wrong, doesn't the bible say something like: "women should not speak in public!" Well things change, and I'm glad they do, I'm happy to change with them.

So you're willing to change, but only in ways that promote sodomy. Do I have that correct?