[Steve]

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That's because you would change the definition of True Christian™ specifically to exclude those people, even if they follow all of the same beliefs and practices that you follow. Those people, Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz, were following the teachings of No Greater Joy Ministries. Incidentally, their child was left "without breath to complain."

You seem angry, friend. Why do you hate Jesus?

[Scavenger]

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No True Christian™ has ever beaten a child to death for mispronouncing a word.

That's because you would change the definition of True Christian™ specifically to exclude those people, even if they follow all of the same beliefs and practices that you follow. Those people, Kevin and Elizabeth Schatz, were following the teachings of No Greater Joy Ministries. Incidentally, their child was left "without breath to complain."

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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Who knows better than the parents what "correction" their children need? I don't know, maybe someone who wouldn't literally beat their child to death for mispronouncing a word.

No True Christian(tm) has ever beaten a child to death for mispronouncing a word.

[Scavenger]

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I used Pastor Ezekiel's name to clarify that I was finished addressing you, Destiny's Blunder, and was addressing Pastor Ezekiel. It's much faster and easier than posting a different reply to each of you. If that wasn't an honest mistake on your part, then it just came across as a poorly thought out attempt at an insult. Honestly, it seems like so many people on this site seize upon every opportunity they can to make those who question them look like fools when it's completely uncalled for, but I digress. I can elaborate on the inconsistencies that I've seen if you like.
Who knows better than the parents what "correction" their children need? I don't know, maybe someone who wouldn't literally beat their child to death for mispronouncing a word.

[Steve]

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I'm saying that domestic abuse is illegal and, according to the Holy Bible, you should follow secular laws. Didn't you say that you don't advocate anything illegal on this site?

Nothing illegal is ever advocated here. Correcting children is a gray area. Corporal punishment is not illegal, per se, but the secular authorities judge what does and does not cross the line. It's sick, really. Who knows better than God-fearing parents what correction their children need? That's why the children of True Cristians(tm) are not the ones shooting up movie theaters.

I do condone the Holy Word of God, Pastor Ezekiel, I'm just trying to get past all of the glaring inconsistencies and contradictions on this site.

If you see inconsistencies here, they are due to your lack of reasoning skills and attention to detail. For example, I'm not Pastor Ezekiel.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I'm saying that domestic abuse is illegal and, according to the Holy Bible, you should follow secular laws. Didn't you say that you don't advocate anything illegal on this site?
I do condone the Holy Word of God, Pastor Ezekiel, I'm just trying to get past all of the glaring inconsistencies and contradictions on this site.

Friend, you should Google "Christian Domestic Discipline". See what you find.

If you actually Google the phrase and read what you find--which I suspect you will not, because that could lead to learning something outside your narrow worldview--you will quickly learn that True Christian™ marriages include agreement for the husband to discipline the wife. That is not illegal, and it is not "domestic abuse".

I realize you are a liberal, which means that your idea of "tolerance" is "Everyone should believe whatever they want, as long as they agree with me 100%", but many people do not believe as you do.

While some folks on the forum might get a little loose in their descriptions of discipline of their wives, what they are talking about is the proper use of the rod on the buttocks, as also recommended for children by Michael and Debi Pearl.

Please have a look at the Pearls' site, "NoGreaterJoy". There, you can learn all about how they train Christians to raise children.

[Scavenger]

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What are you saying? That you disagree with the Bible and how it tells us to correct our wives and children in order to save them from Hell?

I'm saying that domestic abuse is illegal and, according to the Holy Bible, you should follow secular laws. Didn't you say that you don't advocate anything illegal on this site?
I do condone the Holy Word of God, Pastor Ezekiel, I'm just trying to get past all of the glaring inconsistencies and contradictions on this site.

[Steve]

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Unless all of the articles I saw were completely sarcastic, people on this site apparently are advocating things like that, not in the future, but right now. Domestic abuse seems like a good example of that.

What are you saying? That you disagree with the Bible and how it tells us to correct our wives and children in order to save them from Hell?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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Yes, I was being sarcastic about bombing abortion clinics. Still, Faith Machine, are you suggesting that it would actually be okay to bomb them if it wasn't illegal? Regarding the capitalization of True Believers, I just thought it would be nice to do so. After all, you capitalize True Christians™, though that may just be because of the trademark.
Regarding following local laws, I've seen a few articles on this site such as "Corrective rape for lesbians," "How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?" and "How to beat the gay out of your child," not to mention several articles about men beating their wives, and several mentions here and there of people being willing to stone their children. Last I checked, all of those things were illegal, but the people on this site seem to condone them.

We condone the Holy Word of God.

Don't you?

[Scavenger]

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Unless all of the articles I saw were completely sarcastic, people on this site apparently are advocating things like that, not in the future, but right now. Domestic abuse seems like a good example of that.

[Faith_Machine]

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Yes, I was being sarcastic about bombing abortion clinics. Still, Faith Machine, are you suggesting that it would actually be okay to bomb them if it wasn't illegal? Regarding the capitalization of True Believers, I just thought it would be nice to do so. After all, you capitalize True Christians™, though that may just be because of the trademark.
Regarding following local laws, I've seen a few articles on this site such as "Corrective rape for lesbians," "How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?" and "How to beat the gay out of your child," not to mention several articles about men beating their wives, and several mentions here and there of people being willing to stone their children. Last I checked, all of those things were illegal, but the people on this site seem to condone them.

Corrective rape is not illegal in Africa, where it is most often practiced, and if you lay a Godly beating on your wife behind closed doors and she doesn't get all crazy and report it, I hardly think a crime has occurred. No harm, no foul, as they say.

As to your idea about bombing abortion clinics, yes, if that practice is decriminalized, and if you can make a sound scriptural argument in favor of it, I would see no reason not to move forward.

[Steve]

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Yes, I was being sarcastic about bombing abortion clinics. Still, Faith Machine, are you suggesting that it would actually be okay to bomb them if it wasn't illegal?

Yes.

Regarding the capitalization of True Believers, I just thought it would be nice to do so. After all, you capitalize True Christians™, though that may just be because of the trademark.
Regarding following local laws, I've seen a few articles on this site such as "Corrective rape for lesbians," "How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?" and "How to beat the gay out of your child," not to mention several articles about men beating their wives, and several mentions here and there of people being willing to stone their children. Last I checked, all of those things were illegal, but the people on this site seem to condone them.

We follow the Bible to the letter, and that includes the Bible's command to follow secular laws. We advocate nothing currently illegal, though we do look forward to the day a Godly theocracy displaces America's wilted and sinful democracy.

[Scavenger]

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Yes, I was being sarcastic about bombing abortion clinics. Still, Faith Machine, are you suggesting that it would actually be okay to bomb them if it wasn't illegal? Regarding the capitalization of True Believers, I just thought it would be nice to do so. After all, you capitalize True Christians™, though that may just be because of the trademark.
Regarding following local laws, I've seen a few articles on this site such as "Corrective rape for lesbians," "How much do you guys think I could sell my daughter for?" and "How to beat the gay out of your child," not to mention several articles about men beating their wives, and several mentions here and there of people being willing to stone their children. Last I checked, all of those things were illegal, but the people on this site seem to condone them.

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

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I've noticed something very disturbing lately. Your average, run-of-the-mill, wishy washy Christians aren't being persecuted or opressed, but True Believers like us are. In fact, we're not really persecuted for holding these beliefs, per se, but if we ever take action, such as punishing someone for working on the Sabbath, throwing stones at a whore, or bombing an abortion clinic, we're labeled as "psychotic," "extremists," or even "terrorists!" Can you believe it? Even non-violent actions, like trying to put Intelligent Design on an equal footing with evolution in the schools, are looked upon with scorn and contempt by those Godless secularists.

True Christians™ are indeed being oppressed, but not because of committing illegal acts as you (humorously, I hope) suggest. Simply expressing views that others don't like is enough to merit discrimination.

Just consider the Mayor of Boston. When he learned that Chick-Fil-A, a privately owned company, donates money to groups that support traditional marriage, he pledged that he would not let the company open restaurants in Boston, and would make it very difficult for them to get business licenses!

That, my friend, is illegal discrimination on religious grounds, and a flagrant violation of the US Constitution. He wants to prevent a business from opening in Boston because he, personally, doesn't like the way the owners spend their money.

Note that Chick-Fil-A has never been accused of discriminating against homosexual customers or employees. This is purely about where the owners donate their own money, and their personal political views.

Somehow, I doubt the ACLU or the FFRF will be hopping mad over this one.

[Faith_Machine]

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I was just moving and getting some procedural stuff straightened out. I'm now in Broomfield, Colorado. But it's interesting that you should bring that up, Destiny's Blunder. I've noticed something very disturbing lately. Your average, run-of-the-mill, wishy washy Christians aren't being persecuted or opressed, but True Believers like us are.

The only people I've ever seen capitalize the term "true believers" were members of the so-called skeptic community. You wouldn't happen to be a damned skeptic who's posing as a Christian in order to learn our secrets and persecute us, would you?

...or bombing an abortion clinic...

Kindly refrain from bombing abortion clinics unless or until such practice is decriminalized. The Bible says to obey local laws:

Titus 3:1

Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,