[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD your God."

You don't dress in modest apparel, against the wishes of God. You wear cloths of men, an abomination onto God. Please explain to me, why you think you don't have to listen to God? You aren't only disobeying Him, you're outwardly defying Him.

Define 'clothes of men'. I quite like to wear corsets and velvet dresses. I love the victorian fashion. You know, what they wore during the Victorian era.
You're first passage I've been looking over, I think it's okay to wear clothing like I do as long as I'm not proud of it. I wear corsets because I like them, not to look cool.
Nice name by the way.

[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

So you are a rubbish Goth?

Not true: Goths are not a community.

Where is your Town Hall, who is your Mayor, who passes your laws?

All I see is a bunch of kids hanging around the centre of town waiting till they are old enough to stop being Goths.

You seem like a nice sensitive kid who does not need to go to Hell

But that's where you are going if you don't feel the gentle touch of Christ, put on a decent dress, read the bible (KJV1611), marry and True Christian™, keep that yap of yours closed and give birth to as many soldiers of Christ as you can till your womb is dry and useless.

Is that too much for Jesus to ask? He died for you (for a while), don't you think you owe him something?

I thank you for your concern, but I learnt about goth from goth lady in her mid forties.
Most 'visible' goths are in their teens when they don't have jobs and can dress how they like. However as we get older and get jobs we have to tone down. Some feel like they have to move on, others stay true to the subculture. It's a community of people with like minded interests but different perspectives and ideas.
I have one question though, is the KJV different from the KJV1611. I've never seen or heard of the bible you use before now. Do you know where I can get it? I'm curious now.
Thank you.

[The Lord's Sword]

Re: Hey there

Fine.

You asked for it. I go by the name of Raven (even though it's really Sarah). I AM a goth, I love the darker side of life whilst straying from the evil things such as witchcraft, Wicca and other such things.
I love black roses! That was random.
Negro? What is in the galaxy is that?

Why can't people see the beauty in saying thankyou? Well at least I know what to expect now.
I am an example of goth you will never be able to comprehend. The one that wears white (and blue because I can) to church to resemble been forgiven.
I expect you to come at me with something negative again probably only because I'm goth.
Goth is like any other community, you get your good kids and those bad guys that want to stir up trouble.
Looking forward to responding to your comments

1 Timothy 2:9 In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;

Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD your God."

You don't dress in modest apparel, against the wishes of God. You wear cloths of men, an abomination onto God. Please explain to me, why you think you don't have to listen to God? You aren't only disobeying Him, you're outwardly defying Him.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hey there

I am an example of goth you will never be able to comprehend. The one that wears white (and blue because I can) to church to resemble been forgiven.

So you are a rubbish Goth?

I expect you to come at me with something negative again probably only because I'm goth.

Not because you are a Goth but because you will not let Jesus come inside you.

Goth is like any other community, you get your good kids and those bad guys that want to stir up trouble.
Looking forward to responding to your comments

Not true: Goths are not a community.

Where is your Town Hall, who is your Mayor, who passes your laws?

All I see is a bunch of kids hanging around the centre of town waiting till they are old enough to stop being Goths.

You seem like a nice sensitive kid who does not need to go to Hell

But that's where you are going if you don't feel the gentle touch of Christ, put on a decent dress, read the bible (KJV1611), marry and True Christian™, keep that yap of yours closed and give birth to as many soldiers of Christ as you can till your womb is dry and useless.

Is that too much for Jesus to ask? He died for you (for a while), don't you think you owe him something?

All the best.

[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

Fine.

You asked for it. I go by the name of Raven (even though it's really Sarah). I AM a goth, I love the darker side of life whilst straying from the evil things such as witchcraft, Wicca and other such things.
I love black roses! That was random.
Negro? What is in the galaxy is that?

Why can't people see the beauty in saying thankyou? Well at least I know what to expect now.
I am an example of goth you will never be able to comprehend. The one that wears white (and blue because I can) to church to resemble been forgiven.
I expect you to come at me with something negative again probably only because I'm goth.
Goth is like any other community, you get your good kids and those bad guys that want to stir up trouble.
Looking forward to responding to your comments

[Vavoline Johnson]

Re: Hey there

Hi, my name's Raven and I'm a Christian goth attempting to make it known that goth's are not evil they are just ordinary people with darker interested to the world and need to be accepted instead of rejected. I go to a big church in Australia now called Influencers Church.
I'm doing bible college at the mo and am enjoying it.

If you don't beleive me then thats fine. I got a warning earlier for speaking my mind. Probably because I'm not 100% fully aware of your standing compared to mine.

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I'm already beginning to think I've overstayed my welcome. How can I get my point across without being misunderstood as a flamer? So please any advice would be appreciated.

Looking forward to hearing your responses.

Hmmm, did you eber think that maybe u aint no Black Goth and you is jist a Negro?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I would like to thank everyone who has been patient with me so far. I am still new to this site and getting my head around how this site works.

You are all great people. Although there are some things I disagree with I'll stay with you and try to learn a few things through you guys. I apologise for any inconvenience or annoyance I may have caused whilst settling in.

Love LadyRaven

Well you can start by dropping the false pretense of calling yourself "lady raven." What kind of nonsense is that? I'll bet your name is SueEllen Wagner or something like that.

Come clean. Give up the snobbish pretense. Tell us who you really are.

[Redeemed Papist]

I'm greatly misunderstood on this site. If you were talking to me when I first turned goth then maybe I'd identify. I go to a Church that accepts my gothiness.

This explains why you are whining so much. You are used to being among people who just want you to have the same opinions as them regardless of if you are going to Hell. They like the sound of their own voices and make things up that sound a bit like the Bible that fit their agenda.

We, however, don't care if you like us and tell you the Truth(R). Only we are unafraid to show you God without papering over the bits that jibe with secular Satan worship.

This makes you uncomfortable because instead of beating the goth out of you your parents failed you and left you to fall into the clutches of wishy washy false Christians while looking like a pierced panda.
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[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

I would like to thank everyone who has been patient with me so far. I am still new to this site and getting my head around how this site works.

You are all great people. Although there are some things I disagree with I'll stay with you and try to learn a few things through you guys. I apologise for any inconvenience or annoyance I may have caused whilst settling in.

Love LadyRaven

[Dr Laurence Niles]

I prefer simple reading.

Well being a girl (probably) I guess that can't be helped.
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[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

You don't look different: you look like all the other millions of goths who dress exactly the same (shabbily in black with panda eyes) to express their individuality.

If you wanna be an individual in your God hating athiokindergarden subculture why not read the bible (KJV1611)?

You'll stand out then, but in a Godly way

Shout Glory rather than Gory!
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I'm greatly misunderstood on this site. If you were talking to me when I first turned goth then maybe I'd identify. I go to a Church that accepts my gothiness. There's a lot about goth that's had to change during my Christian life but right now I find dressing like everyone else in the building a tad horrifying.

Oh, Pastor Ezekiel I'm sorry about the 'ignore you'. You can come back anytime.

I do read the bible, just not that one. I prefer simple reading.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that's the impression some people are giving me. I want to make a difference in the world and I hate it when people just push me around simply because I think and look different.
Telling me I'm doing Satan's bidding when you clearly don't personally know me is just insane.

You don't look different: you look like all the other millions of goths who dress exactly the same (shabbily in black with panda eyes) to express their individuality.

If you wanna be an individual in your God hating athiokindergarden subculture why not read the bible (KJV1611)?

You'll stand out then, but in a Godly way

Shout Glory rather than Gory!
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[The Lord's Sword]

Re: Hey there

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that's the impression some people are giving me. I want to make a difference in the world and I hate it when people just push me around simply because I think and look different.
Telling me I'm doing Satan's bidding when you clearly don't personally know me is just insane.

You don't seem to get it, this isn't about our opinion, it's about Gods'. The bible clearly states that you are an abomination for dressing like you do. Deuteronomy 22:5 says, "The woman shall not wear that which pertains unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are an abomination unto the LORD your God." 1 Timothy 2:9 says "In like manner also, that women adorn themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness and sobriety; not with broided hair, or gold, or pearls, or costly array;" You are defying the will of GOD!

[Redeemed Papist]

That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that's the impression some people are giving me. I want to make a difference in the world and I hate it when people just push me around simply because I think and look different.
Telling me I'm doing Satan's bidding when you clearly don't personally know me is just insane.

So when we see you doing Satan's bidding we're supposed to ignore it and not mention it in case we upset you?

How is that love?
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[LadyRaven]

Re: Hey there

Would you rather we left people walking into hell just so they like us and give us their children to abuse like the Catholics?
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That's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that's the impression some people are giving me. I want to make a difference in the world and I hate it when people just push me around simply because I think and look different.
Telling me I'm doing Satan's bidding when you clearly don't personally know me is just insane.