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  • Levi Jones
    Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
    Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
    Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
     
    • Jul 2009
    • 13930

    #16
    Re: Greetings from Down Under

    Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post

    The main points of Calvinism can be summed up by the mnemonic tulip.

    Total depravity
    Unconditional election (God's elect were not chosen based on any goodness within themselves)
    Limited atonement (Jesus died only for the elect, NOT for everyone)
    Irresistible calling (If you are elect, you have no choice; you will come to faith in Christ when the Holy Spirit calls you. God has not given us free will, as so many "evangelicals" claim)
    Perseverance of the saints (If you really are a Christian you will persevere till the end. If you fall away, then you weren't really a Christian in the first place and God has shown you up for the reprobate soul that you are)
    I know the five points very well. It's nice to have you. I think you'll find we agree on more than we don't.
    Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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    • Pim Pendergast
      PHD - Theophysicist
      Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
      True Christian™
      • Jun 2012
      • 3103

      #17
      Re: Greetings from Down Under

      Originally posted by Christianzionist View Post
      Dear friend,

      You claim to be partially deaf. To what do you attribute said affliction? Do you think that perhaps Jesus is trying to tell you something about the Satanic practice of child sacrifice, aka paedobaptism?
      I was born partially deaf. It is a genetic defect. Like everyone else, from the moment of conception, I was inherently evil. It just so happened that God chose to smite me with deafness, but others he smote with different afflictions. Why do you think that there has to be a reason for suffering? From where do you get this novel concept?
      sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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      • Levi Jones
        Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
        Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
        Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
         
        • Jul 2009
        • 13930

        #18
        Re: Greetings from Down Under

        Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
        Why do you think that there has to be a reason for suffering?
        I believe in a personal living God who is active in our lives all the time.

        Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
        Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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        • Pim Pendergast
          PHD - Theophysicist
          Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
          True Christian™
          • Jun 2012
          • 3103

          #19
          Re: Greetings from Down Under

          Originally posted by Noah Sole View Post
          So why do you say the Mormon Church is unsound? Our next President is from that Church and I find it disturbing to think the President would be a member of an unsound Church in such a Godfearing Country as the USA. Does that mean our next President is un-baptised in your view?

          YIC
          The Mormon church is unsound because they believe in the Book of Mormon, practise polygamy and wear funny underwear. Your next President, sadly, may well turn out to be an antichrist, leading your godfearing nation astray and deceiving, if it were possible, even the elect.

          The problem stems from your system of government there in the US. Nowhere in the Bible does God sanction democracy as his chosen instrument of government. The only form of government endorsed in the Bible is a monarchy. In Australia we have Queen Elizabeth II ruling over us, who is a member of both the Church of England and the Church of Scotland , so we are really blessed here. We are preserved from the predicament you face over there. And the Netherlands, my home country, is also a monarchy.

          I find it funny how in the US you guys think Republicans are conservative. In Australia republicans (those who want Australia to become a republic) are a bunch of ultra leftist weirdos. Perhaps you guys should rejoin the British Empire. Just a thought.
          sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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          • Pim Pendergast
            PHD - Theophysicist
            Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
            True Christian™
            • Jun 2012
            • 3103

            #20
            Re: Greetings from Down Under

            Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
            I believe in a personal living God who is active in our lives all the time.

            Exodus 4:11 And the LORD said unto him, Who hath made man's mouth? or who maketh the dumb, or deaf, or the seeing, or the blind? have not I the LORD?
            Levi,

            Do you believe God is trying to warn me against pedobaptism? Why do you think I was given this affliction?
            sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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            • MitzaLizalor
              Completely CRAZY for the Lord
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2010
              • 14434

              #21
              Re: Greetings from Down Under

              Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
              Why do you think I was given this affliction?
              Not necessarily through any fault of yours.

              EDIT: sorry, I didn't post the Scripture that was laid on my heart in that post:
              DEUTERONOMY 5
              6
              ¶ I am the Lord thy God, which brought thee out of the lande of Egypt, from the house of bondage.
              7 Thou shalt haue none other gods before me.
              8 Thou shalt not make thee any grauen image, or any likenesse of any thing that is in heauen aboue, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth.
              9 Thou shalt not bow downe thy selfe vnto them, nor serue them: for I the Lord thy God am a ielous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers vpon the children, vnto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,
              10 And shewing mercy vnto thousands, of them that loue me, and keepe my commandements.
              ©1611

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              • Levi Jones
                Pastor of Hermeneutics and Apologetics
                Bathed in Christ's Precious Blood
                Apostle to the Cactuses, Tumbleweeds and Jackrabbits
                 
                • Jul 2009
                • 13930

                #22
                Re: Greetings from Down Under

                Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                Levi,

                Do you believe God is trying to warn me against pedobaptism?
                Calvinists don't believe in pedobaptism, if I recall correctly.

                Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                Why do you think I was given this affliction?
                It's difficult to say. Perhaps it was so Jesus could heal you of it to show His mighty power.

                John 9:2-3 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

                It also could be that one of your ancestors sinned.

                Exodus 20:5
                Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

                But there's good news! Perhaps we could arrange to pray for you to heal you and arrange for God to forgive you of whatever sins you or your ancestors committed to receive this blemish.

                James 5:14-15 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

                If it doesn't work, it was your fault.

                James 4:3
                Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
                Christians are superior because we possess an understanding that unbelievers lack. It is through the Power of Jesus only the converted mind is able to understand what is going on in the world; what the Communists are really up to; what Satan's intentions are. Most unbelievers do not even believe in Satan and cannot understand his tactics.

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                • Pim Pendergast
                  PHD - Theophysicist
                  Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
                  True Christian™
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 3103

                  #23
                  Re: Greetings from Down Under

                  Originally posted by Levi Jones View Post
                  Calvinists don't believe in pedobaptism, if I recall correctly.



                  It's difficult to say. Perhaps it was so Jesus could heal you of it to show His mighty power.

                  John 9:2-3 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind? Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.

                  It also could be that one of your ancestors sinned.

                  Exodus 20:5
                  Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

                  But there's good news! Perhaps we could arrange to pray for you to heal you and arrange for God to forgive you of whatever sins you or your ancestors committed to receive this blemish.

                  James 5:14-15 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

                  If it doesn't work, it was your fault.

                  James 4:3
                  Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts.
                  Please pray for me. I hope it wasn't my fault.
                  sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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                  • Christianzionist
                    Confirmed Enemy of God
                    • May 2012
                    • 97

                    #24
                    Re: Greetings from Down Under

                    Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                    Please pray for me. I hope it wasn't my fault.
                    Prayer backed by belief can move mountains, why do mock the LORD oh ye of little faith?

                    Everything the LORD does is for a reason, and I feel that God wants you to be baptised as a Believer.

                    I am not promising you anything but God may unsmiteth you of your affliction if you decide to obey His commands.

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                    • Pim Pendergast
                      PHD - Theophysicist
                      Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
                      True Christian™
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 3103

                      #25
                      Re: Greetings from Down Under

                      Originally posted by Christianzionist View Post
                      Prayer backed by belief can move mountains, why do mock the LORD oh ye of little faith?

                      Everything the LORD does is for a reason, and I feel that God wants you to be baptised as a Believer.

                      I am not promising you anything but God may unsmiteth you of your affliction if you decide to obey His commands.
                      I would very much appreciate your prayer, and I hope I will be healed, but I know my affliction is not because of my position on baptism, which is based on the grammatical-historical method of interpreting Scripture. I will also be praying for you, that the Lord will open your eyes to understand His Word.
                      sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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                      • Christianzionist
                        Confirmed Enemy of God
                        • May 2012
                        • 97

                        #26
                        Re: Greetings from Down Under

                        Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                        I would very much appreciate your prayer, and I hope I will be healed, but I know my affliction is not because of my position on baptism, which is based on the grammatical-historical method of interpreting Scripture. I will also be praying for you, that the Lord will open your eyes to understand His Word.
                        I am blushing, thank you.

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                        • Rev. M. Rodimer
                          Honorary True Christian™
                          Forum Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 13996

                          #27
                          Re: Greetings from Down Under

                          Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                          Rev Rodimer,

                          To clarify my previous comment, if someone comes to faith in Christ as, say, an adolescent or an adult and they have not previously been baptised in a sound church (being baptised in a Mormon church wouldn't count, for that is not a sound church), then they should be baptised and the option of full immersion would be open to them. This is believer's baptism, and we practise this. The difference is that we do not practise believers-only baptism; we also practise pedobaptism. I hope that the Lord opens your heart to understanding.
                          Since you are a Calvinist, believing in absolute predestination, what exactly is the point of pedobaptism? The child cannot express belief as he does not understand, and the rituals of man have no effect when the soul is predestined for Heaven or Hell.

                          Kindly explain.
                          Bible boring? Nonsense!
                          Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
                          You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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                          • Christianzionist
                            Confirmed Enemy of God
                            • May 2012
                            • 97

                            #28
                            Re: Greetings from Down Under

                            Originally posted by Pim Pendergast View Post
                            I would very much appreciate your prayer, and I hope I will be healed, but I know my affliction is not because of my position on baptism, which is based on the grammatical-historical method of interpreting Scripture. I will also be praying for you, that the Lord will open your eyes to understand His Word.
                            Being Austrian, do you consider Crocadile Dundee or Steve Irwin to be a finer representative of your race?

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                            • Pim Pendergast
                              PHD - Theophysicist
                              Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
                              True Christian™
                              • Jun 2012
                              • 3103

                              #29
                              Re: Greetings from Down Under

                              Originally posted by Christianzionist View Post
                              Being Austrian, do you consider Crocadile Dundee or Steve Irwin to be a finer representative of your race?
                              Sadly, neither of these men are a good representative for Australia, and Steve Irwin is already burning in hell. Probably the most godly Australian I know would be Ken Ham, founder of Answers in Genesis and the Creation Museum.
                              sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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                              • Pim Pendergast
                                PHD - Theophysicist
                                Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
                                True Christian™
                                • Jun 2012
                                • 3103

                                #30
                                Re: Greetings from Down Under

                                Originally posted by Rev. M. Rodimer View Post
                                Since you are a Calvinist, believing in absolute predestination, what exactly is the point of pedobaptism? The child cannot express belief as he does not understand, and the rituals of man have no effect when the soul is predestined for Heaven or Hell.

                                Kindly explain.
                                God has predestined us Calvinists to baptise infants, and since predestination overrides free will, we can't help ourselves. Likewise God has predestined Baptists to follow the unscriptural practice of believers-only Baptism, so no matter what I say, you probably won't change your mind. And since God has predestined children in Calvinist churches to be baptised, what they want is irrelevant. I hope this clarifies things for you.
                                sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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