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  • Athei5t
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    • Jul 2012
    • 13

    #1

    Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

    In the past i have made a complete fool out of myself saying things to annoy you christian people. I wish to be saved but first i must ask, being an agnostic, what proof is there that god exists? This may annoy people but however i wish to repent my sins. But first i need to secure my faith in the lord.
    Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
    abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
  • Rev. M. Rodimer
    Honorary True Christian™
    Forum Member
    • May 2008
    • 13996

    #2
    Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

    Originally posted by Athei5t View Post
    In the past i have made a complete fool out of myself saying things to annoy you christian people. I wish to be saved but first i must ask, being an agnostic, what proof is there that god exists? This may annoy people but however i wish to repent my sins. But first i need to secure my faith in the lord.
    Proof and faith are mutually exclusive, friend.

    Faith is the belief in things not known. If you have proof, you have knowledge. Then, faith is not required and is meaningless.

    God wants us to have faith in Him. If He just popped in every couple of years, showed us a quick view of Hell, and danced off to another dimension, we wouldn't have to "believe" or have faith. We'd know for sure that He would burn us alive for all time if we didn't obey.

    Then we would not truly have free will.

    Time to set aside your demand for "proof" and start making with the faith.
    Bible boring? Nonsense!
    Try Bible in a Year with Brother V, or join Shirlee and the kids as they discuss Real Bible Stories!
    You can't be a Christian if you don't know God's Word!

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    • James Hutchins
      True Christian™
      Just a Regular Nice Guy
       
      • Jun 2009
      • 29453

      #3
      Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

      Originally posted by Athei5t View Post
      In the past i have made a complete fool out of myself saying things to annoy you christian people. I wish to be saved but first i must ask, being an agnostic, what proof is there that god exists? This may annoy people but however i wish to repent my sins. But first i need to secure my faith in the lord.
      Friend, you have continually insulted us and God. It is time for some penitence from YOU. Ask yourself your own questions. You are such a smart ass, you can look for answers. I for one, am tired of having you throw feces at me like some lilliputian monkey.
      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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      • Athei5t
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        • Jul 2012
        • 13

        #4
        Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

        Its very touching how people can put their trust into a divine being and i can respect you for that, however being born in an an unholy household i have been raised to ask questions and to demand evidence before anything. I am reading the bible at the moment and i am gaining faith, i will continue to find faith an when i do i will introduce myself properly.
        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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        • James Hutchins
          True Christian™
          Just a Regular Nice Guy
           
          • Jun 2009
          • 29453

          #5
          Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

          A smart man finds answers. A stupid man begs for them. Which are you?

          You claim to be an 'athei5t'. Why? See friend, you are so utterly clueless that even lesser races shake thier heads at your banality. My man servent, Chester, think you are a 'po debil chile'.
          Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
          Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
          Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
          Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
          Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
          Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78556

            #6
            Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

            Originally posted by Athei5t View Post
            In the past i have made a complete fool out of myself saying things to annoy you christian people. I wish to be saved but first i must ask, being an agnostic, what proof is there that god exists? This may annoy people but however i wish to repent my sins. But first i need to secure my faith in the lord.

            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • Athei5t
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              • Jul 2012
              • 13

              #7
              Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

              Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
              A smart man finds answers. A stupid man begs for them. Which are you?

              You claim to be an 'athei5t'. Why? See friend, you are so utterly clueless that even lesser races shake thier heads at your banality. My man servent, Chester, think you are a 'po debil chile'.
              Im sorry but im not looking for an argument, and yes a smart man can find answers but he cant always do it on his own. Also who are these 'lesser races?'

              Thank you for the video pastor, it has been very helpful.
              Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
              abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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              • Noah Sole
                True Christian™
                True Christian™
                • Feb 2012
                • 865

                #8
                Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

                Originally posted by Athei5t View Post
                Im sorry but im not looking for an argument, and yes a smart man can find answers but he cant always do it on his own. Also who are these 'lesser races?'

                Thank you for the video pastor, it has been very helpful.
                Looking for answers and proof read this - it's all in there.


                The lesser races are the 'Sons of Ham' (you will find the term when reading the Bible) - essentially they are anyone without Godly white skin.

                Hope this helps
                Genesis 7:5
                And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.


                John 8:32
                And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.


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                • James Hutchins
                  True Christian™
                  Just a Regular Nice Guy
                   
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 29453

                  #9
                  Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

                  Originally posted by Athei5t View Post
                  Im sorry but im not looking for an argument, and yes a smart man can find answers but he cant always do it on his own. Also who are these 'lesser races?'

                  Thank you for the video pastor, it has been very helpful.
                  You really did do a number on the grading curve.

                  Friend, why are you an Athei5t? Once you can answer that, then you can also answer your other question. They go hand in hand, like mandingo love.
                  A smart man provides the answers. A dumb man does not understand the question.
                  Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                  Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                  Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                  Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                  Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                  Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                  • Athei5t
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                    • Jul 2012
                    • 13

                    #10
                    Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

                    Due to there being many adaptions to the bible through the years which one would be the best to read? Thanks for all the help.
                    Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                    abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                    • James Hutchins
                      True Christian™
                      Just a Regular Nice Guy
                       
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 29453

                      #11
                      Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

                      1611 King James Version. It is the only Certified(r) Bible.
                      Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                      Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                      Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                      Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                      Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                      Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                      • Athei5t
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                        • Jul 2012
                        • 13

                        #12
                        Re: Are You an Atheist?

                        Being an atheist is good in a sense because they can ask questions without being scared of angering the invisible sky man who will send you into a firey abyss. This place can be proven by the 100% true book of stories of the chronicles of the invisible sky man and his son jesus who's mother was raped by the invisible sky man for his own benefit Amen
                        Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                        abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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                        • James Hutchins
                          True Christian™
                          Just a Regular Nice Guy
                           
                          • Jun 2009
                          • 29453

                          #13
                          Re: Are You an Atheist?

                          Son, are you on the crack?
                          Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                          Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                          Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                          Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                          Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                          Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                          • Jedediah
                            True Christian™ Creation Scientist
                            Fisher of Men
                            True Christian™
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 6824

                            #14
                            Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

                            Originally posted by Athei5t View Post
                            Due to there being many adaptions to the bible through the years which one would be the best to read? Thanks for all the help.
                            There is only one valid translation of God's Word, friend. God promised to preserve His Word for all time.

                            Psalm 12:6-7
                            The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.
                            Thou shalt keep them, O Lord, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

                            In 1611, God inspired the translators of the King James Authorized Version to create His Perfect Bible. Indeed, since this translation is doubly inspired (during its original transmission and in its translation), it can even be considered superior to the original Greek and Hebrew. I recommend immediately downloading the version found here and printing and binding it yourself. Many Bible publishers are heathens, and they are not to be trusted.

                            As for proof of God, you only have to look into your own heart.

                            Romans 1:18-21
                            For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
                            Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
                            For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
                            Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.


                            I have explained how so-called "atheists" are simply deluding themselves and suppressing their innate knowledge of God in this thread. I suggest you edify yourself with these anointed teachings.
                            II Thessalonians 1:7-9
                            And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
                            In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
                            Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power



                            The man who is being progressively sanctified will inescapably sanctify his home, school, politics, economics, science, and all things else by understanding and interpreting all things in terms of the Word of God and by bringing all things under the Dominion of Christ the King. -R.J. Rushdoony

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                            • Athei5t
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                              • Jul 2012
                              • 13

                              #15
                              Re: Im trying to find salvation, but first i need proof

                              Im sorry But all i see is scientific proof to what we know instead of the 'god did it' approach i dont think religion is for me. Thanks for the help and sorry it didnt work for me. I will not post again so no need to reply to this. Just promise you dont try to force your religion onto anyone, for if they want to burn in hell let them Regards mr athei5t
                              Psalm 14:1 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done
                              abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

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