[Rev. Edward Clement]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

And IF I don't follow the bible correctly to 100%, but still believe and Worship God, I can be forgiven.

Friend, you are absolutely incorrect. You cannot be forgiven unless you repent of your sceptical ways that lead to damnation.

Luke
17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.

However, you cannot repent unless the Father broods over you and draws you to Jesus.

John
6:44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.

In other words, your personal interpretation of the scripture does not matter, and you will not get saved when you want to. The Lord(r) makes that choice, not you.

And in rebuttal, before you say it: you cannot just call on the name of the Lord, or call Him Blessed unless the Lord moves you to call on Him.

1 Corinthians
12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

In further rebuttal, if you go ahead and say it: it will render a false-witness and will lead you further into damnation.

Friend, if you would read(instead of cherry-pick) the KJV Bible, you would be aware of this.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

[JohnSwede]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

How can you even begin to distort that verse of Scripture to suggest that Christ commanded that the state control the means of production? Do you even know what communism is, son?

I have signed over all my earthly possessions to Landover Baptist Church. It is through the Grace of God that the Pastors allow me to keep custody my income and the goods that I accumulated before becoming Saved. Try removing the beam from your own eye, God-mocker.

Matthew 7:2-4
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

I said "Kind of a communist" as he had partially same ideology as Karl Marx like advocating class war. But I can admit Jesus had more of a Socialist thinking than Communist.

Either way, I don't think "sell your possessions and give to the poor" meant NOT giving to the poor.

And how about all sins can be forgiven except blasphemy against God?
I am not mocking God, who are you to JUDGE me what I think about God? I Worship God. And IF I don't follow the bible correctly to 100%, but still believe and Worship God, I can be forgiven.

[Jedediah]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

Jesus was kind of a communist, at very least a socialist. You say that you interpret the Bible literary, so why don't you guys go and do what Jesus told?

How can you even begin to distort that verse of Scripture to suggest that Christ commanded that the state control the means of production? Do you even know what communism is, son?

I have signed over all my earthly possessions to Landover Baptist Church. It is through the Grace of God that the Pastors allow me to keep custody my income and the goods that I accumulated before becoming Saved. Try removing the beam from your own eye, God-mocker.

Matthew 7:2-4
For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

[JohnSwede]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

Next time you read it, you might try pulling your head out of your ass first.

Matthew 7:13-14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew 19:21
Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."

Jesus was kind of a communist, at very least a socialist. You say that you interpret the Bible literary, so why don't you guys go and do what Jesus told?


Matthew 12:31
"And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven."

[Jedediah]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

man is just a man with "free will".

Free will is a non-Biblical myth.

John 15:16
Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.

Romans 9:15-16
For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.
So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

I just dont think that God will send around 6 billion people currently living on earth to hell. Last time I read the new testament, He was pretty forgiving.

Next time you read it, you might try pulling your head out of your ass first.

Matthew 7:13-14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

We will just have to take King James for his words then, but I am skeptic, as God is Divine but man is just a man with "free will". King James could have made up a whole lot of things when he translated it, not that I think so, but at least formalize certain things differently.


I just dont think that God will send around 6 billion people currently living on earth to hell. Last time I read the new testament, He was pretty forgiving.

John 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

[JohnSwede]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

There you go, definitely not impossible is in other words very possible. I'm not a scholar and I can speak and translate accurately languages that are extremely different. It still does not matter, as it was God Himself who supervised the translation of the only true bible. KJV.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:.

We will just have to take King James for his words then, but I am skeptic, as God is Divine but man is just a man with "free will". King James could have made up a whole lot of things when he translated it, not that I think so, but at least formalize certain things differently.


I just dont think that God will send around 6 billion people currently living on earth to hell. Last time I read the new testament, He was pretty forgiving.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

Definitely not impossible

There you go, definitely not impossible is in other words very possible. I'm not a scholar and I can speak and translate accurately languages that are extremely different. It still does not matter, as it was God Himself who supervised the translation of the only true bible. KJV.

2nd Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:.

[JohnSwede]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

Maybe that's why you need to be a literary scholar to be able to do it? Are you saying that it is impossible to translate a book from one language to another?

Definitely not impossible. But it's such a complex book, translated from languages that are extremely different from ours? You never fear that there might be mistakes? Maybe not a huge amount, but just a "minor" mistake and we all will burn in hell.

That is why I think God might read between the lines a little bit for us who follow KJV.

[Nobar King]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

first of all you are reading something that was translated by a Protestant Englishman and second of all Hebrew and Greek among other languages are pretty difficult to translate literary into English.

Maybe that's why you need to be a literary scholar to be able to do it? Are you saying that it is impossible to translate a book from one language to another?

[JohnSwede]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

Of course we are reading KJV bible on it's original language.

King James of England translated the original Bible into English. you don't believe there were any mistakes in the translation? I mean, first of all you are reading something that was translated by a Protestant Englishman and second of all Hebrew and Greek among other languages are pretty difficult to translate literary into English.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

Then I assume that you are reading the bible on it's original language, right?

Of course we are reading KJV bible on it's original language.

[JohnSwede]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

If we don't take the Bible literally, what then do we do? Make up meanings we're comfortable with? Change the words, or their meaning, to suit our own views and our own sense of morality? We get to make the Bible whatever we want it to be rather than what it is?

That's a dangerous path that leads to such abominations as Catholicism, Lutheranism and Furryism, among others. No thanks, I think I'll just stick with the Bible as it is: God's perfect Word.

Then I assume that you are reading the bible on it's original language, right?

[Steve]

Re: Hello all fellow Christians

That you shouldn't take the words in the bible 100% literary because a literal translation from Hebrew and Greek would be completely different than it is now.

If we don't take the Bible literally, what then do we do? Make up meanings we're comfortable with? Change the words, or their meaning, to suit our own views and our own sense of morality? We get to make the Bible whatever we want it to be rather than what it is?

That's a dangerous path that leads to such abominations as Catholicism, Lutheranism and Furryism, among others. No thanks, I think I'll just stick with the Bible as it is: God's perfect Word.