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  • Progress
    Unsaved trash, teenaged pervert
    • Oct 2012
    • 8

    #1

    Short Introduction

    Athiest. Yep, lets get it out of the way, thats what I am. Now before you grab your pitchforks and try to run me off the forum why dont you listen to someone elses opinion for once, and I'll be willing to hear and think about the way you interprit reality. I thank you in advance for your consideration.

    The first thing I usually hear from Christians or people who are religious is: "Oh, your an athiest, so you practice athiesm? Doesn't that mean you dont believe in anything?" And my answer is always no. I dont know where that ignorant stereotype came from but it isn't true at all. I personally have millions of beliefs, for example I believe that I am a human being, that I live in the state of Wisconsin which is part of the United States on the planet Earth which is in the Milky Way galaxy and well you get the picture.

    When I say that I am an athiest the only thing that you can really know about me from that simple fact is that when someone asks me if I believe that a "god" exists I say no. It doesnt tell you how I feel about the goverment, it doesnt tell you how I feel about law or education systems. All it tells you is I dont believe in god. Unlike what religion does and Christianity specifically tells you what the rules and morales are about sex, what the rules and morales are about living, what the rules and morales are about marriage. You live by a strict set of rules and I do not. I decide what is right and wrong. And I decided to join this forum to present my opinion and fight for my beliefs, just like you do.

    When I was growing up I believed in god. I had no doubt in my mind that he existed because I didnt know any alternative, and was told that it was true and never thought to question the things I was being told. Around when I was 6 I heard the story of Noah and the Ark. My first thought about that was, how did he get so many animals on the boat? I didnt ask, I just thought it to myself, but that was the first time I questioned what I was told about the bible. The question really bothered me because I knew that their were all kinds of animals all around the world, I saw them at the zoo, how could one person possibly get animals from all around the world to be alive on the boat for 40 days and 40 nights without them eating each other? But I never asked, not until I was around 11, I asked my Pastor a question during our youth group, and he didnt have an answer, everyone thought it was a stupid question, why would I question god?

    Thats when I realized I didnt believe in god, how could I believe that it was true when even my Pastor didnt have an answer? I was just being spoon fed lines from the bible and being told not to question them, that they were the absolute truth. But I still felt like god must exist, and I was afraid of hell. I believed all the way up until I was 16, I read the bible, begining to end, and that is what made me an Athiest, how could anyone believe the awful things, the unbelievable events, the outright stupidity presented in the bible? Now I ask others why they believe what they believe and it always comes down to faith, and why is faith a good thing?
    Last edited by Brother Harold Porter; 10-14-2012, 12:27 AM. Reason: Tried to make the wall of imbecilic twaddle readable
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  • Born Again Bob
    True Christian™
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2006
    • 2318

    #2
    Re: Short Introduction

    Dear Friend,

    Originally posted by Progress View Post
    I personally have millions of beliefs, for example I believe that I am a human being, that I live in the state of Wisconsin which is part of the United States on the planet Earth which is in the Milky Way galaxy and well you get the picture.
    That's some exciting stuff. I look forward to you proving each of these propositions.

    I was around 11, I asked my Pastor a question during our youth group, and he didnt have an answer, everyone thought it was a stupid question, why would I question god? Thats when I realized I didnt believe in god, how could I believe that it was true when even my Pastor didnt have an answer?
    I had a similar experience. When I was in grade school I asked my science teacher why the sky was blue. When she didn't know the answer off the cuff, I knew then and there that so-called science was bunk.

    I'm glad to meet someone else who has learned nothing since grade school! (Although there are more of us about then you'd think).

    Yours in Him,
    BAB

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    • Progress
      Unsaved trash, teenaged pervert
      • Oct 2012
      • 8

      #3
      Re: Short Introduction

      I've learned a lot since grade school. I did the research myself and no answers are forth coming, now I believe that anyones beliefs can be challanged, and when you cant back them up with a reasonable, logical, realistic evidence proof and justification. All I was doing was giving an outline of what started me on the path for who I am today. If you want to know more about why I'm an athiest why dont you ask me?
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      • Born Again Bob
        True Christian™
        True Christian™
        • Sep 2006
        • 2318

        #4
        Re: Short Introduction

        Dear Friend,

        Originally posted by Progress View Post
        If you want to know more about why I'm an athiest why dont you ask me?
        Some questions answer themselves, don't they?

        now I believe that anyones beliefs can be challanged, and when you cant back them up with a reasonable, logical, realistic evidence proof and justification
        Prove that. Show me a proof. Prove to me -- with evidence -- the proposition that the only propositions worthy of being deemed true are those for which evidence is or might be available.

        You might Google "logical positivism" before digging in. The greatest minds in Western philosophy spent decades of furious efforts trying to restrict the world of creditable assertions to what evidence could back up. They failed. If you haven't, call Stockholm to pick up your Nobel prize.

        Yours in Him,
        BAB

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        • Mary Etheldreda
          Gushing for Jesus
           
          • Sep 2011
          • 23775

          #5
          Re: Short Introduction

          Originally posted by Progress View Post
          If you want to know more about why I'm an athiest why dont you ask me?
          I'm confused. If someone wanted to know why people hate and reject our Beloved Redeemer, wouldn't they go to one of a number of heathen God-mocking forum? If someone wanted to worship the LORD, glorify His Name, and share the beauty and majesty that is the Holy Bible, wouldn't they go to a church forum?
          Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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          • Pastor Ezekiel
            Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
             
            • Sep 2006
            • 78556

            #6
            Re: Short Introduction

            Originally posted by Progress View Post
            I've learned a lot since grade school. I did the research myself and no answers are forth coming, now I believe that anyones beliefs can be challanged, and when you cant back them up with a reasonable, logical, realistic evidence proof and justification. All I was doing was giving an outline of what started me on the path for who I am today. If you want to know more about why I'm an athiest why dont you ask me?
            We aren't interested in hearing the story of why you rejected Christ's Love and began to live the immoral life of an atheist. This is a Christian forum. Unsaved NOT welcome.

            If you'd like to find out more about Landover Baptist Church, please read THIS thread created especially for new posters.

            If you have a question, use the "search" function before posting it. Most likely it is being discussed somewhere on this Godly forum. Please don't waste God's precious bandwidth.

            You will keep a respectful tongue in your head whenever addressing your betters, which includes all True Christians™. Failure to do so, or any attempt at inciting debate or mockery of God's Divine Plan, can and will result in the suspension of your posting privileges.

            Your rights on this forum are listed HERE. If you feel that any of these rights have been violated, please don't hesitate to contact a Pastor at once.
            Who Will Jesus Damn?

            Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

            Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

            Need Pastoral Advice? Contact me privately at PastorEzekiel@landoverbaptist.net TODAY!!

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            • Progress
              Unsaved trash, teenaged pervert
              • Oct 2012
              • 8

              #7
              Re: Short Introduction

              I'm just here to tell you that I think the bible and everything it represents is egregious unsound absurd asinine preposterous confused contradictory disjointed inchoate muddled fatuous irrational idiotic humorous false phony mistaken fallacious inadequate invalid deceptive unintelligible unbelievable unconvincing unscientific unreasonable incorrect implausible illogical silly irrelevant nutty and ultimately meaningless, if you can show me a reason to think otherwise, then I'll stop thinking that, I want to live my life the right way but I also care about truth, how do I know its true without finding out?
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              • Born Again Bob
                True Christian™
                True Christian™
                • Sep 2006
                • 2318

                #8
                Re: Short Introduction

                Dear Friend,

                Originally posted by Progress View Post
                I also care about truth, how do I know its true without finding out?
                Surely you can do a better job of phrasing this question. Even crippled, as you seem to be, with a public school education.

                How about we discuss this:

                RESOLVED: Those who base their actions on observation of the physical world have a better grounds for believing their actions correct than those who base their actions on the Bible.
                You take the affirmative, I take the negative. Agreed? If so, you first.

                Yours in Him,
                BAB

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                • Mary Etheldreda
                  Gushing for Jesus
                   
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 23775

                  #9
                  Re: Short Introduction

                  Originally posted by Progress View Post
                  I'm just here to tell you that I think...
                  So?
                  Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                  • Progress
                    Unsaved trash, teenaged pervert
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 8

                    #10
                    Re: Short Introduction

                    How about I just ask you about some of your beliefs, what do you think about Deuteronomy: 28?
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                    • Born Again Bob
                      True Christian™
                      True Christian™
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 2318

                      #11
                      Re: Short Introduction

                      Dear Friend,

                      Originally posted by Progress View Post
                      How about I just ask you about some of your beliefs
                      A lot easier to knock other people down than to stand up for anything, isn't it?

                      what do you think about Deuteronomy: 28?
                      It's true. It's all true. And well-written.

                      Yours in His Increasing Inability To Respect Your Intellectual Honesty,
                      BAB

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                      • Progress
                        Unsaved trash, teenaged pervert
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 8

                        #12
                        Re: Short Introduction

                        shhhhh
                        1 Timothy 2:12
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                        • Born Again Bob
                          True Christian™
                          True Christian™
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 2318

                          #13
                          Re: Short Introduction

                          Dear Friend,

                          Originally posted by Progress View Post
                          shhhhh
                          1 Timothy 2:12
                          It would only be teaching if there was the faintest prospect of you learning.

                          This is more like talking to a rock, or someone brain-dead. In fact, it's exactly like that.

                          Hey, don't forget you were going to DAZZLE me with why I shouldn't believe Deuteronomy 28.



                          Yours in Him,
                          BAB

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                          • Mary Etheldreda
                            Gushing for Jesus
                             
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 23775

                            #14
                            Re: Short Introduction

                            Originally posted by Progress View Post
                            How about I just ask you about some of your beliefs, what do you think about Deuteronomy: 28?
                            I think it is the Perfect Word of God and as such is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness (2 Timothy 3:16-17). Imagine, if you will, the LORD of Lords, wants YOU to be righteous, and so He gives you the perfect source, the Holy Bible! How can one not be inspired by that?
                            Hello, my name is Mary. I hope to fellowship with you! That is, unless you don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); are a witch (Exodus 22:17); are a homosexual (Leviticus 20:13; Romans 1:24-32); or fortuneteller (Leviticus 20:27) or a snotty kid who hits their dad (Exodus 21:15); or curses their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); an adulterer (Leviticus 20:10); a non-Christian (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); an atheist (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); or false prophet (Zechariah 13:3); from the town of one who worships another, false god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); were a non-virgin bride (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); or blasphemer (Leviticus 24:10-16), as God calls for your execution and will no doubt send you to Hell, and I have no interest developing a friendship with the Spiritually Walking Dead.

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                            • Born Again Bob
                              True Christian™
                              True Christian™
                              • Sep 2006
                              • 2318

                              #15
                              Re: Short Introduction

                              Dear Sister,

                              It is shocking how the race of atheists has fallen into such intellectual disrepair.



                              Baruch Spinoza, hell-bound crypto-Godmocker though he might be, encapsulated much of the fundamental structure of the universe in just a few proofs.



                              Bertrand Russell, while a whinging commie, revolutionized mathematical logic in his Principia.



                              I sincerely doubt this one can tie his shoes without an orderly.

                              God has turned atheists even more directly into fools. For as the Bible says:
                              "The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good." Psalm 53:1.

                              Yours in Him,
                              BAB

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