[Shimei]

Re: Hello there!

Amen, friend. You are very astute for an unsaved slant. Atheism is riddled with contradictions and faith based claims. Further more, as you pointed out, God-hating atheists believe that they themselves, and their leaders, are gods. This is of course ridiculous, since God-hating atheists are hardly competent to grasp even the simplest nuances of the Bible. But they would have to be omniscient to know that God exists, since God deliberately hides Himself. After all, if there was a just and omnipotent God with a plan for everyone and everything, there would be absolutely no evidence of this fact. Therefore we can conclude, since there is no evidence of such a God, that He exists.

Amen too friend. "Therefore we can conclude, since there is no evidence of such a God, that He exists." We can conclude that God is not always present to bless one with his presence. God exposes the hearts of the seeker. God knows whether we will accept or reject Him despite whether He is there to bless or not. Question we should ask ourselves, am I receptive to God and if so when God reveals Himself to me will I obey Him? God already knows and this may be the reason He has not revealed Himself! After all, He is all-knowing!

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Hello there!

You realize that as an unbeliever meowpik, you claim to be omniscient and omnipresent. That is, one must be all knowing and everywhere present in the universe to know that God is non existent. How else can one be certain that God does not exists? By your elementary argument, you claim to be what you disagree with as existent.

Amen, friend. You are very astute for an unsaved slant. Atheism is riddled with contradictions and faith based claims. Further more, as you pointed out, atheists believe that they themselves, and their leaders, are gods. This is of course ridiculous, since atheists are hardly competent to grasp even the simplest nuances of the Bible. But they would have to be omniscient to know that God exists, since God deliberately hides Himself. After all, if there was a just and omnipotent God with a plan for everyone and everything, there would be absolutely no evidence of this fact. Therefore we can conclude, since there is no evidence of such a God, that He exists.

[Shimei]

Re: Hello there!

Most 7 or 8 year olds are capable of believing in God. Were you a bit retarded or something?

ROFL, this is why I find this so funny:

1. I didn't. Ever since I was a small child, say 7 or 8, the idea of an all-powerful, omniscient being was a bit unbelievable to me.

You realize that as an unbeliever meowpik, you claim to be omniscient and omnipresent. That is, one must be all knowing and everywhere present in the universe to know that God is non existent. How else can one be certain that God does not exists? By your elementary argument, you claim to be what you disagree with as existent.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Hello there!

Ever since I was a small child, say 7 or 8, the idea of an all-powerful, omniscient being was a bit unbelievable to me.

Most 7 or 8 year olds are capable of believing in God. Were you a bit retarded or something?

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: Hello there!

I want to inform you all that you are terrible people.

An unbelieving god-hater with no objective standards accusing us Christians of being terrible for our objective moral standards.

Just...wow.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello there!

So what's the True Christian™ "out" here? God's not a person, so human morality doesn't apply? Or that He's not actually killing them (until He resurrects them to cast them into the lake of fire for eternity, which is the "second death")?

There is no "out" here, Mr. Much. I've read these passages a number of times, both separately and in context, and I have yet to find how they apply to the sin of rape and abortion, with the exception of the last one. The last verse explains one of the reasons marriage to the "rape" victim is compassionate: "A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD." (Deuteronomy 23:2) Since the married woman would not give birth to a bastard child, he would therefore not be barred from entering into the congregation of the LORD.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Hello there!

Hello, God-hating atheist here.

Not trying to argue over the existence/non-existence of God or any of that, I want to inform you all that you are terrible people. The views that you have on real-world issues are simply atrocious.

1. Homosexuals don't need to be saved. They're people, but they simply have different tastes than you. It's like you people are being Nazis, only instead of Jewish people, you're going after God-hating atheists and homosexuals.

2. Rape victims should marry their rapists? Are you kidding me? Being raped is a traumatizing experience. The rapist should not be rewarded, but prosecuted. Also, what if the rapist is gay? Should he be stoned or married to the boy he violated? Hm?

3. This one is a bit less of an issue with me, and others, but women should be able to abort their child in the case of rape. That child would simply be a reminder of the tragic events that transpired with the woman's rapist. Instead of forgetting of the rape, she would be constantly reminded every day.

Thanks. I guess.

With a name like Meowpik, I'd been hoping your introductory thread would contain cute pics of cute kitties. I love cats!

Sadly, your introductory post didn't even contain a proper introduction, much less photographs of adorable felines.

I'll give you a second chance, though. Please tell us what church you attend, which Bible verse most touches your heart, and how you came to know the Lord.

(And if you want to throw in a precious kitty photo or two, I certainly won't be complaining!)

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello there!

...Any decent person should grieve the idea of killing a child for the sins of the father...

Very true, unfortunately:

Deuteronomy 5:9 "Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me,"

Exodus 20:5 "Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;"

Exodus 34:7 "Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."

Numbers 14:18 "The Lord is longsuffering, and of great mercy, forgiving iniquity and transgression, and by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation."

It's even worse for bastards (and foreigners):

Deuteronomy 23:2-3 "2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD. 3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever:"

So what's the True Christian™ "out" here? God's not a person, so human morality doesn't apply? Or that He's not actually killing them (until He resurrects them to cast them into the lake of fire for eternity, which is the "second death")?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Hello there!

No, I'm fine, thanks. Also I don't hate God. I just don't believe he exists.
Do you hate unicorns? Probably not, but you don't think they exist. It's the same principle.

But you're not fine, that's what we're trying to tell you. And no, I don't hate unicorns. Why should I?

Then why do Christian extremists call homosexuality a disease? That's a bit rude and unjust.

One cannot be at ease when in tremendous mental and emotional anguish.

"any decent man"? And by "decent," do you mean someone who shares your beliefs? I think I have pretty good morals, and that makes me decent, in my opinion.

But see, without a trustworthy moral compass, your opinions cannot be trusted. It's like asking a sociopath for his opinion about morals.

The child inside the womb has no memories or emotions. A four-year-old has memories, and friends. The people that love him would be crushed if he was killed. Any "decent" person should condone abortion in cases of rape.

Any decent person should grieve the idea of killing a child for the sins of the father.

1. I didn't. Ever since I was a small child, say 7 or 8, the idea of an all-powerful, omniscient being was a bit unbelievable to me. What do I hope to gain? A nice family. I don't care if they are of the faith, I just don't want people to inflict their beliefs on me.
2. No one.
3. Nope. I'm a heterosexual 18 year old male. I'm reasonably fit, have girlfriend, and all that jazz.

1. So you turned your back on God because He didn't share with you His entire plan. Arrogant much?
2. Clearly your spiritual needs were neglected by your family. You are still in denial. One of our members is a certified True Christian™ Psychotheological Analyst Therapist. Perhaps he can work with you and your emotional trauma and repressed memories.
3. See #2.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Hello there!

Hello, God-hating God-hating God-hating atheist here.

Not trying to argue over the existence/non-existence of God or any of that, I want to inform you all that you are terrible people. The views that you have on real-world issues are simply atrocious.

1. Homosexuals don't need to be saved. They're people, but they simply have different tastes than you. It's like you people are being Nazis, only instead of Jewish people, you're going after God-hating God-hating God-hating atheists and homosexuals.

2. Rape victims should marry their rapists? Are you kidding me? Being raped is a traumatizing experience. The rapist should not be rewarded, but prosecuted. Also, what if the rapist is gay? Should he be stoned or married to the boy he violated? Hm?

3. This one is a bit less of an issue with me, and others, but women should be able to abort their child in the case of rape. That child would simply be a reminder of the tragic events that transpired with the woman's rapist. Instead of forgetting of the rape, she would be constantly reminded every day.

Thanks. I guess.

1: the gaywise are not people, they are abominations. Leviticus 18:22

2: how is the rapist being rewarded? He has to marry a woman who DOES NOT LOVE HIM. He CANNOT put her aside no matter how fat or independent she is. That's no picnick, I can tell you!

3: as Godly Todd Akin shows us if it was rape there would be no baby. FACT.

People like you with your fakir ways make me physically sick. You repulse me.

All the best.

YIC

[Brother Harold Porter]

Re: Hello there!

I didn't. Ever since I was a small child, say 7 or 8, the idea of an all-powerful, omniscient being was a bit unbelievable to me.

This is the result of poor parenting, my friend. An 8 year old is in no position to make such a judgement. I suppose your parents are God-hating atheistical fools too?

A young child needs constant exposure to the truth of God's Word in order to realize what inherently filthy and corrupt sinners all children are from birth. Once a tot understands this, it is so much easier to realize that a higher power in God did indeed create all we see and gave us the precious gift of free will. A meaningless life of misery and despair in wicked and degenerate sin and then death. Or the chance to sit beside Jesus in Heaven for all of eternity, praise Him!

Will you confess the sins that stain your filthy soul and character? Can you kneel in front of Jesus this very day and receive His unconditional warm gift of love and Salvation? We are praying for you.

In Christ

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Hello there!

"I guess you've overlooked the fact you're now trying to inflict your beliefs on them, huh?"

Nope, just trying to have a friendly discussion.

From your OP:

*snip* I want to inform you all that you are terrible people. *snip*

Your idea of friendly is unusual.



Yours in Christ,

Z. Smyth

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: Hello there!

How can we have a friendly discussion with such as you?

2 Corinthians 6:14-15, 17 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

God tells us to shun you so shun you we shall!

[meowpik]

Re: Hello there!

"I guess you've overlooked the fact you're now trying to inflict your beliefs on them, huh?"

Nope, just trying to have a friendly discussion.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Hello there!

...Do you hate unicorns? Probably not, but you don't think they exist. It's the same principle...

Wrong. Unicorns exist, according to the Bible. If you'd read it, you'd know that.

...Then why do Christian extremists call homosexuality a disease? That's a bit rude and unjust...

According to the Bible, God causes and cures all disease.

...I think I have pretty good morals, and that makes me decent, in my opinion...

Hitler thought he was doing good for his country and the world.

...The child inside the womb has no memories or emotions. A four-year-old has memories, and friends...

And they're both doomed to eternal suffering in Hell if they don't accept Christ as their Saviour.

...I just don't want people to inflict their beliefs on me...

Then why did you join this forum?

I guess you've overlooked the fact you're now trying to inflict your beliefs on them, huh?