[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Hello Mary,

And you think that the internet is the proper place for doing so? One should leave their sinful ways rather than lingering with a backward look. And while I agree with your use of Scripture and appreciate your insight, I'm merely cautioning another to examine whether they are using the forums as a type of prayer closet to be seen by other men, or whether their focus is truly on God without distraction. Just another way of saying if one truly believes......

Thanks

Mrs. Etheldreda has backed up every one of her points with Scripture. You on the other hand have merely given your thoughts on the matter.

Who to believe...?

YiC,

Zech

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Hello Mary,

And you think that the internet is the proper place for doing so? One should leave their sinful ways rather than lingering with a backward look. And while I agree with your use of Scripture and appreciate your insight, I'm merely cautioning another to examine whether they are using the forums as a type of prayer closet to be seen by other men, or whether their focus is truly on God without distraction. Just another way of saying if one truly believes......

Thanks

Matthew 6:5-6

King James Version (KJV)

5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

Jesus calls upon us to avoid hypocrisy by praying in closets. Hypocrisy is when you pretend to be righteous in public, and keep your sins to yourself. How then is it hypocritical to confess sin publicly? Is this not precisely the opposite of hypocrisy?

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Mrs. Etheldreda has backed up every one of her points with Scripture. You on the other hand have merely given your thoughts on the matter.

Who to believe...?

YiC,

Zech

Brother, it is Shimei's ignorance of scripture that continually ensures he is consistently incorrect about everything. That and his devotion to Satan.

You would think that the fear of eternal burning would motivate him to read the Bible.

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Brother, it is Shimei's ignorance of scripture that continually ensures he is consistently incorrect about everything. That and his devotion to Satan.

You would think that the fear of eternal burning would motivate him to read the Bible.

But why would he feel compelled to drag Valkyre down there with him? That's just plain selfish (and MEAN).

[Shimei]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Brother, it is Shimei's ignorance of scripture that continually ensures he is consistently incorrect about everything. That and his devotion to Satan.

You would think that the fear of eternal burning would motivate him to read the Bible.

2 Corinthians 5:11-19. He'd probably much rather avoid not only the evil he's seeing but the very appearance of evil, so that there can be nothing to make others think less of him and the message which he shares. And that message in this thread is that in Christ his old self died and the new person arose.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

But why would he feel compelled to drag Valkyre down there with him? That's just plain selfish (and MEAN).

Perhaps he decided in congress with his dark master that Valkyrie would make for good sport in Hell. I don't know. Why do Satanists do anything when they lead mere pseudo lives devoid of any meaning or purpose? That question was rhetorical, and not intended to invite more of Shimei's Biblically irrelevant philosophy, for the record.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

2 Corinthians 5:11-19. He'd probably much rather avoid not only the evil he's seeing but the very appearance of evil, so that there can be nothing to make others think less of him and the message which he shares. And that message in this thread is that in Christ his old self died and the new person arose.

You're sort of tossing out pronouns like James Randi might do to a psychic. I am not a psychic; I leave the mind reading to God. See Matthew 9:4

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Hello Mary,

And you think that the internet is the proper place for doing so? One should leave their sinful ways rather than lingering with a backward look. And while I agree with your use of Scripture and appreciate your insight, I'm merely cautioning another to examine whether they are using the forums as a type of prayer closet to be seen by other men, or whether their focus is truly on God without distraction. Just another way of saying if one truly believes......

Thanks

Landover Baptist Church Forum is primarily a Bible-Believing Church Community. This is God's favorite forum for a reason, friend. As such, we respond with great responsibility in our privilege to ensure the Word of God, with Jesus Christ as the Final Authority, is duly represented here. We do this for the one and only reason of Salvation.

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:23

We all have sinned, each one of us. One woman fondling the breasts and kissing the tender inner thighs of another woman is no less a sin in God's eyes than any other. Sin, any sin, separates us from God and it always will, that is, without Christ indwelling us. If Christ indwells, and the sinner is cleansed, there is now therefore no condemnation for those who are IN Christ Jesus.

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:1

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9

Why would you want to suppress the confessions of a sinner, of one who desires Salvation? I think we are mature enough here to treat a sinner with the kind of care and sensitivity necessary to show the Love of Christ.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

That's what I had hoped but apparently I haven't 'taken my medication this morning' according to the infraction I recieved. I'm pretty sure I took all four of my tablets, and the other two at night. I have Indeterminate Colitis (which I nearly died from due to major complications), Aspergers Syndrome and Depression. I also am seeing a neurologist today and may very well be psychotic. I perhaps should have mentioned that in my initial post. They weren't to know of course so I merely found the statement amusing rather than offensive, although it wasn't entirely helpful due to the fact that I still don't know exactly what it was I did wrong. Nevertheless I do hope that I can be saved, I understand that I have to find my way to Jesus again and fight the sins I am riddled with, but any help would be much appreciated

Perhaps you should get your dosage adjusted. Scan and upload a doctor's note proving that you have done this, and I will reverse the infraction immediately.

[Shimei]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Landover Baptist Church Forum is primarily a Bible-Believing Church Community. This is God's favorite forum for a reason, friend. As such, we respond with great responsibility in our privilege to ensure the Word of God, with Jesus Christ as the Final Authority, is duly represented here. We do this for the one and only reason of Salvation.

For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:23

We all have sinned, each one of us. One woman fondling the breasts and kissing the tender inner thighs of another woman is no less a sin in God's eyes than any other. Sin, any sin, separates us from God and it always will, that is, without Christ indwelling us. If Christ indwells, and the sinner is cleansed, there is now therefore no condemnation for those who are IN Christ Jesus.

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Romans 8:1

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1 John 1:9

Why would you want to suppress the confessions of a sinner, of one who desires Salvation? I think we are mature enough here to treat a sinner with the kind of care and sensitivity necessary to show the Love of Christ.

Right, Romans 6:23 -- The direction in which we are facing is regarded as more important that the particular stage we have reached. Once we're in Christ we start on the process of sanctification. Every day I leave behind something which may hinder me. Every day I grow purer and kinder. If I got what I had earned it would be death, but out of His grace God has given to me life.

Romans 8:1 -- I have sinned, but when I became a follower of Christ or Christian, the spirit of God became the surging power of the Spirit of God, and I entered into victorious living. I lived a life a part from Christ and recognized that it was my human nature that attached me to the world instead of God.

And I would not place myself in the way of a sinner's confession. If it appears as so then I appear wrong.

1 John 1:9 -- Amen!

Thank you, I'll refrain from interrupting any further.

[Thomas Taylor]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Right, Romans 6:23 -- The direction in which we are facing is regarded as more important that the particular stage we have reached. Once we're in Christ we start on the process of sanctification. Every day I leave behind something which may hinder me. Every day I grow purer and kinder. If I got what I had earned it would be death, but out of His grace God has given to me life.

Romans 8:1 -- I have sinned, but when I became a follower of Christ or Christian, the spirit of God became the surging power of the Spirit of God, and I entered into victorious living. I lived a life a part from Christ and recognized that it was my human nature that attached me to the world instead of God.

And I would not place myself in the way of a sinner's confession. If it appears as so then I appear wrong.

1 John 1:9 -- Amen!

Thank you, I'll refrain from interrupting any further.

Shiney,

This poor child needs to tell both God and us her shortcomings.

Joshua 7:19 tells us this:
And Joshua said unto Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession unto him; and tell me now what thou hast done; hide it not from me.

Now, if we look at it in the perspective that through God she has become our sister in Christ then the above holds true.

Also James 5:16 is very clear on this:
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

[Valkyre]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Perhaps you should get your dosage adjusted. Scan and upload a doctor's note proving that you have done this, and I will reverse the infraction immediately.

I will certainly look into doing so, however I am unable to adjust the dosage myself as my parents control this. I also have an upcoming brain scan so any adverse effects on changing medication may mess up my results.

Thank you for your support everyone, bar those who wish to drag me down further.

[Shimei]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Shiney,

This poor child needs to tell both God and us her shortcomings.

Joshua 7:19 tells us this:
And Joshua said unto Achan, My son, give, I pray thee, glory to the LORD God of Israel, and make confession unto him; and tell me now what thou hast done; hide it not from me.

Now, if we look at it in the perspective that through God she has become our sister in Christ then the above holds true.

Also James 5:16 is very clear on this:
Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Thank you Thomas.

I love how this got turnt around. First of all I agree with Scripture and believe that it is the absolute truth. Joshua said to Achan confess unto him. Exactly who? The Lord, and that I have done.

There's no righteous deed we can do that will earn us a place in Heaven -- Titus 3:5. We come to Christ empty-handed. We can take no credit for salvation: "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith--and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God--not by works, so that no one can boast" -- Ephesians 2:8-9

Confess your faults to one another. Right, I admit to having been a sinner whose sins are covered up by the nails that pierced the bleeding hands of Jesus. If any man want to know them take it to Jesus in prayer, perhaps He may uncover them? I have reconciled my difference with people in life that I have wronged. I am to confess my sins to the person I have wronged before the Lord and need not to any other.

Power is not entrusted in men or a group or organization to forgive the transgressions against the holy nature of God. The church is to convey forgiveness to the penitent in heart and to warn the impenitent that they are forfeiting the mercy of God. This is what John 20:19-23 and the said Scriptures quoted means to me.

Perhaps it is my misunderstanding, but it appears that some here think it themselves who forgive men the sins committed against God? And that people here are forgiven of the sins by other people rather than against the people they have sinned against?

[Zechariah Smyth]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Show me one instance where a True Christian(tm) has stated he or she can forgive sins. Just one.

If not, please be thinking about how you'll word your apology for bearing false witness.

[Shimei]

Re: Just another Unsaved Trash

Show me one instance where a True Christian™ has stated he or she can forgive sins. Just one.

If not, please be thinking about how you'll word your apology for bearing false witness.

I never said a "True Christian" has stated he or she can forgive sins. I said it may be my misunderstanding -- by the repetition and hounding some do in order to have others confess their sins here as if their salvation depends upon it.

I expressed my understanding so that it could be corrected if wrong. That is why I said, "Perhaps it is my misunderstanding." Thanks for listening to me ramble my thoughts aloud Zechariah Smyth, and assuring me this is not the case.