[JustGotSaved]

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THank you Wells for your input.

But that's right, you're 21.

1 Cor 13:11

[Redeemed Papist]

Re: another new member here

How is lying to heathens that they won't go to hell an act of love?

[Mistress Cookie]

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My favorite verse is Corinthians 13: 4-7...I became a Christian when I was 15 when I heard my Uncle speak at Church when I visited him for the first time. He spoke of compassion, and love. Of how the Lord is righteous and forgiving, and how through Him, any man can achieve great things.

Well I am not as "hung up" on the fine points of the Bible for the young right away....one has to learn to crawl (the stage you're at) before you can run with the True Christians™.

But I am happy you're here and asking for help. And He(tm) welcomes you, too!

[ExGay Alex]

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Who says we do not speak about love?

We KNOW that God loves anyone who, in turn, loves God with all his heart and soul (Matthew 22:37) and who keeps His commandments. If you can't do that simple thing, why do you expect God does not punish you? It's all right there in the Bible. Romans 6:23.

[Creationist Ron]

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This new poster reeks of sissyfied, namby-pamby Christianity.

Do you attend a Unitarian church or something son? Is your pastor an obeese female gym teacher with a crew cut? Please read the original KJV, you can give the "Illustrated Bible" made for children that you have likely been reading to your first born. Its time to actually READ the bible.

Just trying to help, Harold Law

Oh! And welcome, don't get too comfortable.

Well said Pastor Law I think we have a fluffy bunny Christian here! I will pray for you friend.

[James Hutchins]

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Welcome friend, you seem like a decent sort, so rare in today's fast moving times.
How many sons have you sired with your wife?
What are your favorite and then least favorite parts of the Bible? Are they opposite sides of His Word or is there 'just something you find unsettling' about the two, a dichotomy if you will?

[Harold Law]

Re: another new member here

This new poster reeks of sissyfied, namby-pamby Christianity.

Do you attend a Unitarian church or something son? Is your pastor an obeese female gym teacher with a crew cut? Please read the original KJV, you can give the "Illustrated Bible" made for children that you have likely been reading to your first born. Its time to actually READ the bible.

Just trying to help, Harold Law

Oh! And welcome, don't get too comfortable.

[Pim Pendergast]

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Welcome to the forum, Mr Wells.

I would like to give you two reasons why it is vital to alert the sinner to his condition.

1) So that he cannot plead ignorance when he stands before the judgement throne of Christ.

Jn 15:22 If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no cloak for their sin.

2) So that God won’t hold you guilty of his sin. If you know that someone is sinning and has incurred God’s wrath but don’t warn him, God’s wrath will still be poured out on the sinner, but he will also require an account from you. Pay special attention to verse 20.

Ezek 3:17-21 17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me.
18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.
20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumbling-block before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand.
21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul.

And so, you understand, I am compelled to warn you. There are many people who deceive themselves into thinking they are Christians.

Mat 7:21-27 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.
24 Therefore [this word is important; it shows that what follows is linked to the preceeding verses] whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them [those who follow all of God’s Word], I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock:
25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock.
26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not [those who pick and choose Scriptures as if the Bible were a buffet], shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand:
27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it.

You need to accept and practice all of God’s Word. Self-deception is all too easy.

1 Cor 10:12 Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.

A lot of people like to emphasize that God is love, and this is true (1 Jn 4:8). But God is also holy.

Lev 19:2b For I the LORD your God am holy.

God is also righteous.

2 Chron 12:6 The LORD is righteous.

God is jealous.

Ex 20:5b I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.

Ex 34:14b For the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God.

God is many things. Love and hate and jealousy and fear are not mutually exclusive. I pray that you will come to understand this.

I am disturbed that you insist we ignore God's love. This is simply not true. You need to read the link Pastor Levi provided. I also love talking about God's love. In closing, I would like to leave you with this verse.

Heb 12:5a My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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If there is one thing that He hates more than anything, that is, of course, sin.

Very true, young lady. God hates sinful behaviour and I can't think of a more unconscionable sin than the one that is eating into our society today, I expect.

Those dirty queers will stop at nothing in pushing their militant gay agenda on our kids in school. That's like looking the gates to Heaven for a whole generation of wholesome young youths on the cusp of adulthood.

It makes me sick that God's will is flaunted in such ways.

YIC

[BWells91]

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But I say unless ye repent ye shall likewise perish.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom.

It might be the beginning of wisdom, but it is certainly not both beginning AND end.

Perhaps you simply ignored my last post.

Those who only preach of God's wrath and speak not one word of His love, have no business preaching His word at all.

[Levi Jones]

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Yes, I can see that you most definitely do.
in fact, I can see that it is the only thing you do here.
However, you cannot teach the ways of the Lord on only one half.
If you ONLY preach to someone about fearing the Lord our God, then you are not worthy of preaching His word at all.
The Lord should be feared, yes, but He should also be loved.
And I have not seen one post yet in this forum speaking of our Lord's love.
I have only seen hate and spite towards others for one misplaced word.

But I say unless ye repent ye shall likewise perish.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom.

That was Jesus' message. That and love your neighbor as yourself. We do love our neighbors.

Please see this sermon.

Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

[BWells91]

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That is exactly what we do here!

Yes, I can see that you most definitely do.
in fact, I can see that it is the only thing you do here.
However, you cannot teach the ways of the Lord on only one half.
If you ONLY preach to someone about fearing the Lord our God, then you are not worthy of preaching His word at all.
The Lord should be feared, yes, but He should also be loved.
And I have not seen one post yet in this forum speaking of our Lord's love.
I have only seen hate and spite towards others for one misplaced word.

[Levi Jones]

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You are mistaken if you think that I do not point out a persons sin.
It is what must be done to show them that they are doing wrong in the eyes of the lord.
I of course make it a point at sometime while speaking with them that if they continue to sin as they do, that they will be cast into the eternal fire.
But, I do not make that my only reference to their sinful ways.
I let them know that with the LORD's love, they might be saved from such a terrible damnation

That is exactly what we do here!

[BWells91]

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Yes! You're saying that you were moved by your uncle's sermon! You don't judge people for worshiping idols, and refuse to point out to them when they make a deadly mistake, one that will result in their spending eternity in Hell. I'll bet that helps you sleep at night, knowing you've avoided any unpleasant confrontations that might just save a soul. What you forget is the LORD has called the True Christian™ to correct the True Christian™ wanna be.

You are mistaken if you think that I do not point out a persons sin.
It is what must be done to show them that they are doing wrong in the eyes of the lord.
I of course make it a point at sometime while speaking with them that if they continue to sin as they do, that they will be cast into the eternal fire.
But, I do not make that my only reference to their sinful ways.
I let them know that with the LORD's love, they might be saved from such a terrible damnation

[Levi Jones]

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2 Timothy 4:1-2 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

Paul is not making a suggestion here.

Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine.

While we at LBC do our fair share of rebuking, I want you to look at the word "reprove" I left bold for you. In the Greek, the word is used thusly:

a) generally with a suggestion of shame of the person convicted
b) by conviction to bring to the light, to expose
2) to find fault with, correct
a) by word
1) to reprehend severely, chide, admonish, reprove
2) to call to account, show one his fault, demand an explanation
b) by deed
1) to chasten, to punish

Jude 1:22-23 And of some have compassion, making a difference:
And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.

We preach exactly as Paul tells us to. It's too bad you whisper sweet lies into people's ears not warning them that the train is coming as they lay on the railroad tracks.

I'm glad I don't have any friends like you.