[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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You -> <- God and us

[Jabalí]

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Hello Jalabi, I assume by your name that you are a young Arab girl? Don't worry, you can worship Jesus too, and we will protect you from whatever sheik or sultan currently owns you.

Now then, I'm told you've been sassing back to your elders and upsetting the pastors here. I really hope you'll show them some respect, because you seem like such a lovely young lady, and I'd hate to see you get into any more trouble. Tell me, do you have a Web cam?

My name is Javiera, but some idiot changed it by Jabalí just because they wanted to piss me off. I'm from Chile, a country in South America

And about respect, I show the most I can, or rather most of what they deserve since they threat me like bullshit just because I don't think like them in some important things, but I don't mind, that don't upset me, in fact, they just give a good laugh, something really needed in this times we're living now

Thanks you for being so kind, you don't talk like the fanatics you have here

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

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And about respect, I show the most I can, or rather most of what they deserve since they threat me like bullshit just because I don't think like them in some important things, but I don't mind, that don't upset me, in fact, they just give a good laugh, something really needed in this times we're living now

I'm sorry that you feel so put upon because people ask you to explain why you believe what you do.

[Jabalí]

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I'm sorry that you feel so put upon because people ask you to explain why you believe what you do.

I believe in those things because I'm a tolerant person, I think God created al of us equally so all of us deserve the same respect

I don't believe the women is less than a man
I don't believe gays are evil or that they should be murdered
I don't believe a black and a white person couldn't get married, they're not the same race, but they're both humans, so they can have children if they want
I don't believe children are property and that they can be beaten even to death just because with it they will be "saved"
I don't believe humans are the only ones who deserve the heaven, if we came from the same God than animals, then there's space in heaven for them
I don't believe that something must be evil just because is new (pokemon, video games, movies, etc)
I don't believe our religion is the only one, there are lots of cultures in the world and we should learn from them

But the most important of all of this is that I absolutely don't believe that religion is a excuse for violence, discrimination and hate, all of us are sons and daughters of God, and this world is for love and being loved, to be a good person meanwhile we're here, and that's all

God is love, God is not hate between brothers but the symbol of what is good and pure in the world, and if we must hate something, lets hate murderes, pedophiles, people who burn forests, who hurt women, children, animals, old people, handicaped people, those people need a punish

God is our father, and as a good father, He don't wish that his children fights or hurt each others, did he?

[James Hutchins]

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I believe in those things because I'm a tolerant person, I think God created al of us equally so all of us deserve the same respect

I don't believe the women is less than a man
I don't believe gays are evil or that they should be murdered
I don't believe a black and a white person couldn't get married, they're not the same race, but they're both humans, so they can have children if they want
I don't believe children are property and that they can be beaten even to death just because with it they will be "saved"
I don't believe humans are the only ones who deserve the heaven, if we came from the same God than animals, then there's space in heaven for them
I don't believe that something must be evil just because is new (pokemon, video games, movies, etc)
I don't believe our religion is the only one, there are lots of cultures in the world and we should learn from them

But the most important of all of this is that I absolutely don't believe that religion is a excuse for violence, discrimination and hate, all of us are sons and daughters of God, and this world is for love and being loved, to be a good person meanwhile we're here, and that's all

God is love, God is not hate between brothers but the symbol of what is good and pure in the world, and if we must hate something, lets hate murderes, pedophiles, people who burn forests, who hurt women, children, animals, old people, handicaped people, those people need a punish

God is our father, and as a good father, He don't wish that his children fights or hurt each others, did he?

So what you are saying is none of you jungle savages actually follow the Bible that God went to great lengths to provide. Do you realize, that Jesus died on the cross for YOUR sin? That the thanks you show Him are by ignoring His Word?


Why is all about what YOU believe? What about Jesus? You selfish, conceited degenerate greedy bastard. Typical third world inhabitant. Take, take, take.

[Didymus Much]

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...God is our father, and as a good father, He don't wish that his children fights or hurt each others, did he?

You have read the Bible, haven't you?

[Jabalí]

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So what you are saying is none of you jungle savages actually follow the Bible that God went to great lengths to provide. Do you realize, that Jesus died on the cross for YOUR sin? That the thanks you show Him are by ignoring His Word?


Why is all about what YOU believe? What about Jesus? You selfish, conceited degenerate greedy bastard. Typical third world inhabitant. Take, take, take.

All those things are my values and I simply live and I leave to live, and a thing I think you need is a psychologist, because that hatred that you practise isn't something good

And maybe I don't live in the USA, but not for that my country is less beautiful and important for this world, so please try to don't insult it because is my home and I love it, even when all its imperfections

God bless gay people, God bless women, God bless all those little angels which are the animals, God bless all America (which is not only the United States, but all the countries in the continent) and God bless this beautiful world

And if you think thanking him I'm ignoring his word you're wrong, God want us love each other and be thankful, and that's exactly what I'm doing here

[Mary Etheldreda]

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God bless gay people, God bless women, God bless all those little angels which are the animals, God bless all America (which is not only the United States, but all the countries in the continent) and God bless this beautiful world

And if you think thanking him I'm ignoring his word you're wrong, God want us love each other and be thankful, and that's exactly what I'm doing here

But you see, God does not bless sodomites. He blesses select women who have been Saved in childbirth. God does not bless animals (and animals are not angels, they are different species, dear). God wants us to love our neighbors, not everyone, not you. You are ignoring God's Word and instead assuming your ideas are also His. How very convenient.

But it's not God you are talking about.

It is the god you created in your own imagination.

Your god is imaginary.

Try this experiment. For one week, pray to your god. Give him thanks, praise him, ask him for favors. Write down if and when and how your prayers are answered.

Then for the next week, pray to a jug of milk in your refrigerator. Give it thanks, praise it, ask it for favors. Write down if and when and how your prayers are answered.

I'll bet you all the money in my coin purse that there will be no difference. Your praying to your imaginary god will procure no more "answers" than praying to a jug of milk. You will find that what you see in reality is a coincidences clouded by confirmation bias.

Then come back to us, and we'll share with you how to be Saved(c) for real.

[Faith_Machine]

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My name is Javiera, but some idiot changed it by Jabalí just because they wanted to piss me off. I'm from Chile, a country in South America

And about respect, I show the most I can, or rather most of what they deserve since they threat me like bullshit just because I don't think like them in some important things, but I don't mind, that don't upset me, in fact, they just give a good laugh, something really needed in this times we're living now

Thanks you for being so kind, you don't talk like the fanatics you have here

My dear, I'm very concerned that you feel somebody here has been unkind to you. I have experienced nothing but the very milk of human kindness since I joined this community.

Is it possible you are misinterpreting tough love as meanness? I've had some conversations behind the scenes, and I've been assured that several of our colleagues are praying for you at this very moment.

[Jabalí]

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But you see, God does not bless sodomites. He blesses select women who have been Saved in childbirth. God does not bless animals (and animals are not angels, they are different species, dear). God wants us to love our neighbors, not everyone, not you. You are ignoring God's Word and instead assuming your ideas are also His. How very convenient.

But it's not God you are talking about.

It is the god you created in your own imagination.

Your god is imaginary.

Try this experiment. For one week, pray to your god. Give him thanks, praise him, ask him for favors. Write down if and when and how your prayers are answered.

Then for the next week, pray to a jug of milk in your refrigerator. Give it thanks, praise it, ask it for favors. Write down if and when and how your prayers are answered.

I'll bet you all the money in my coin purse that there will be no difference. Your praying to your imaginary god will procure no more "answers" than praying to a jug of milk. You will find that what you see in reality is a coincidences clouded by confirmation bias.

Then come back to us, and we'll share with you how to be Saved© for real.

I have a different vision about God, and my vision is not better or worse than yours, just different. God is very, VERY powerful and huge to be enclosed in a single vision. I don't know if I'm making him happy or not and you don't have how to know it either, I'm just doing what I think is ok basing me in my values and principles, that's called having a conscience

Sorry if you think I have some kind of "imaginary God", but just because you don't understand something then you can use that as an excuse to discriminate another people, that is not a solid argument to support an idea and you must know it

Think different is not a sin, but discrimination, and I know what are you thinking and no, I don't have a versicle in the Bible to support what I'm saying here, you can say I'll go to hell but I don't care, you're not God to judge me or sending me there

[Faith_Machine]

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Jaververia, my dear, have you read the Bible? What did you think of it?

How did the Bibles vision of God compare to your vision of God?

Were they the same, or different?

If they were different, in what way did they differ?

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

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No, I don't see her everywhere, what that people thinks is Mary are just optical ilusions, lots of people have them anyway

You may not be beyond help, which is good.

Excuse me, but the words are afroamerican people, and as a person who must love the others I think you're a racist, which is very sad, I'm sorry for you

My dear, as has been pointed out to you, separating and acknowledging the differences between the races is a very biblical thing...

"When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel." (Deut. 32:8)

Pastor Ed

[Jabalí]

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Jaververia, my dear, have you read the Bible? What did you think of it?

How did the Bibles vision of God compare to your vision of God?

Were they the same, or different?

If they were different, in what way did they differ?

Again, my name is Javiera, please show a bit of respect to my person writing it right, ok?

Bible was written 2000 years ago, visions change and people don't remain the same in lots of aspects, I don't see God as a destructive being which destroys anything that is not perfect or tell you to sell your daughter as a slave or kill your wife just because is not the woman you though she was, I think in God as a good spirit which wants the best for all its followers

And about the Bible, I think is a really good way to have good values in life thanks to its stories, but some things must not be taken so literally and we must stop the fanatism, if you don't stop that nonsense maybe it could even end with you killing a person or starting a war with innocent people, believe me that no trial in the world will declare you not guilty just using the argument that "I did because it was God's will"

I'll say it again, God is not an excuse for criminal behaviour or discrimination, laws allows the freedom of religion, but if you're abusing of that freedom then you deserve a punishment. Try to close the Bible just for 5 minutes and think by yourselves, your mind is too important to waste it

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

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Try to close the Bible just for 5 minutes and think by yourselves, your mind is too important to waste it

Christ could return in those five minutes and we'd be found disobedient and be sent to burn in eternal fire forever. The Bible tells us to ALWAYS observe his law...

"6And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: 7And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. 8And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. 9And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates." (Deut. 6:6-8)

"O how love I thy law! it is my meditation all the day." (Psalm 119:97)

If you wish to go to Hell, go right ahead.

[Faith_Machine]

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Again, my name is Javiera, please show a bit of respect to my person writing it right, ok?

Bible was written 2000 years ago, visions change and people don't remain the same in lots of aspects, I don't see God as a destructive being which destroys anything that is not perfect or tell you to sell your daughter as a slave or kill your wife just because is not the woman you though she was, I think in God as a good spirit which wants the best for all its followers

And about the Bible, I think is a really good way to have good values in life thanks to its stories, but some things must not be taken so literally and we must stop the fanatism, if you don't stop that nonsense maybe it could even end with you killing a person or starting a war with innocent people, believe me that no trial in the world will declare you not guilty just using the argument that "I did because it was God's will"

I'll say it again, God is not an excuse for criminal behaviour or discrimination, laws allows the freedom of religion, but if you're abusing of that freedom then you deserve a punishment. Try to close the Bible just for 5 minutes and think by yourselves, your mind is too important to waste it

Wait, wait, wait, hold on, what's going on here? First of all, the Bible tells us to always obey local laws, so this crazy talk about us killing people is really catching me off guard.

We are very much against murder here, so much so that members of this community have been repeatedly spit upon, beaten, harassed, threatened, and jailed for committing no greater crime than trying to stop unborn children from being murdered.

Now then, I'm very sorry if I mispronounced your name, but surely you understand that was unintentional? Is it considered some big sign of disrespect in Mexico if a poor, dumb foreigner such as myself can't get your name right on the first try? If so, I did not know that.

Regardless, I think you should relax and stop being so obsessed with whether you're getting every crumb of respect you think you're entitled to.

Did you ever see Jesus Christ going around demanding that people respect Him? Read the Bible, dear. You'll see that He was a very humble man. He didn't demand that people respect Him, He earned their respect through His deeds.

You think you have the right to be respected by everybody just because, but Jesus only encourages you to give up your perceived rights. He preached in a society where the right to exact vengeful justice upon those who've wronged you was taken as a given. Read the following verse, and see how the Lord wants you to refrain from exercising your rights:

Matthew 5:38-39

38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:

39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

He adopts a similar stance when He encounters a crowd preparing to stone an adulterous woman to death. Surely, the wronged husband has a right to see her die, just as you feel you have the right to be treated with respect.

Open your heart to Jesus, though, and you won't be burdened with the constant need for respect.