[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Re: I have a doubt.....

You're not God, so you can't be sure that I'll go to hell, so I'm not afraid of you, and you can't control me because I'm not scared. You're taking God's place saying that and that's a sin

Pastor Ed is not in any way "taking God's place". He was merely quoting His Word in order to demonstrate to you the error of your ways and the message is pretty straightforward: According to the Bible you are going to hell unless you repent, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and start living your life according to Biblical teachings in every single aspect of it.

Proverbs 28:26 He that trusteth in his own heart is a fool: but whoso walketh wisely, he shall be delivered.

2 John 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Galatians 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.

And before we go any further with this you should know that we do NOT twist scripture. We didn't write the Bible, we only follow it. Everything we say or do is Biblically correct so whenever you disagree with our words you are actually rejecting God's gift of eternal life.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Matthew 4:4 Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

And finally this is NOT a debate forum. This is a Christian forum, solely dedicated to praising the LORD and discussing His Word. Your rights are listed HERE. I also suggest that you make yourself familiar with THIS before you keep spewing your bigotry here on our friendly forum. If, in any way, you feel as your rights have been violated then please contact a Pastor immediately.

[JustBeatMe]

Re: I have a doubt.....

Congratulations. You just damned your soul forever. There is now NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER of you repenting because you have committed the unforgivable sin according to Mark...

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit. (Mark 3:28-30)

You did so by calling our words and works the works of Satan, just as the Pharisees did Jesus, accusing him of being possessed. You committed the same sin by spitting on the holy Words of Jesus.

Your soul is now damned. There is no heaven for you. You have lived in vain. And don't think I take any pleasure in saying this. I don't.

I'm advising all other Christians in this thread to abandon their work. There's no saving this one.

Pastor Ed

You're not God, so you can't be sure that I'll go to hell, so I'm not afraid of you, and you can't control me because I'm not scared. You're taking God's place saying that and that's a sin

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

Re: I have a doubt.....

No, you don't, and I don't think God is inspiring your words but Satan

Congratulations. You just damned your soul forever. There is now NO CHANCE WHATSOEVER of you repenting because you have committed the unforgivable sin according to Mark...

28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
30 Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit. (Mark 3:28-30)

You did so by calling our words and works the works of Satan, just as the Pharisees did Jesus, accusing him of being possessed. You committed the same sin by spitting on the holy Words of Jesus.

Your soul is now damned. There is no heaven for you. You have lived in vain. And don't think I take any pleasure in saying this. I don't.

I'm advising all other Christians in this thread to abandon their work. There's no saving this one.

Pastor Ed

[JustBeatMe]

Re: I have a doubt.....

I know you believe it. The thing about the Truth© is, it does not change according to your belief.

So I think the truth then is going to change according to YOUR beliefs

I have a very good idea about where you're going

No, you don't, and I don't think God is inspiring your words but Satan

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Re: I have a doubt.....

I believe he is mam. And you have no idea where I'm going because you don't really know me or my relationship with God.

You are a cherry-picking gayboy. I think we know exactly where you are heading.

Deuteronomy 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.

Proverbs 30:5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
Proverbs 30:6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: I have a doubt.....

I believe he is mam. And you have no idea where I'm going because you don't really know me or my relationship with God.

I know you believe it. The thing about the Truth© is, it does not change according to your belief.

I have a very good idea about where you're going because you advocate that which is not the Faith of Jesus Christ. You advocate a lie, and you belong to the Father of Lies (John 8:44).

The heart of the righteous studieth to answer: but the mouth of the wicked poureth out evil things.
Proverbs 15:28

Unrighteous, serving Satan, wicked = Hell.

It's not too late, dear.

[Levi Jones]

Re: I have a doubt.....

I believe he is mam. And you have no idea where I'm going because you don't really know me or my relationship with God.

It's true we will not be the one's condemning you to hell, but unless you screw your head on straight for Christ, He is going to burn you forever and ever with the atheists, the muslims, the buddhists, the hindaloos, the other false Christians and everyone else who didn't do everything He said to.

But just like Noah's family, we True Christians(tm) will be saved while the rest of them perish for eternity.

I feel pretty darn good knowing I'll be at Jesus' right hand.

[Tyler the gay troll]

Re: I have a doubt.....

I believe he is mam. And you have no idea where I'm going because you don't really know me or my relationship with God.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: I have a doubt.....

Jesus is my lord and saviour. Of that I have no doubt sir

But He is not your Savior. Jesus Did NOT Die For Everyone's Sins!

[Levi Jones]

Re: I have a doubt.....

I'm not twisting them, the versicle is very clear, what you do to the smaller brother or sister of our Lord, is like doing the same thing to God himself

Faith is very important, but we must be good samaritans and help our brothers and sisters

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." (NIV, John 13:34-35)

"The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." (NAS, Mark 12:28-31)

As you see I'm not twisting the scriptures, because that is what they say

Yes you are twisting them. You are taking them completely out of context!

Please see those exact verses you quoted in the proper context.

Bible Answers: Who are our neighbors? Who are our brothers and sisters? Who are we to love?

Matthew 22:39 And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'

They take this to mean that we are supposed to have a big hippie love-in with everyone we meet. The question I ask them is, who are our neighbors? Fortunately for us, Jesus was asked that exact same question.

You may know it as the parable of the Good Samaritan. You may have known this story as a morality tale as that the least of us can be good and do good things for one another, but the story is actually a foundation upon which salvation lies.

Please turn with me to Luke 10:25-37

25And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?
26He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou?
27And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself.
28And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
29But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus, And who is my neighbour?

Most of us know the story of the Jewish man who was left for dead on the side of the road. Two Jews passed him by one was even a Levite priest, but a Samaritan (an unclean low person {John 4:9} who didn't believe in Judaism the same way the regular Jews did.) stopped to save him. Jesus ends the parable by asking this question in Luke 10:36-37

36Which now of these three, thinkest thou, was neighbour unto him that fell among the thieves?
37And he said, He that shewed mercy on him. Then said Jesus unto him, Go, and do thou likewise

Hallelujah! Our answer is clear. Only one of the three people was Jesus' neighbor.

We are to love our neighbors as ourselves, but our neighbors are only those who display Christian love and kindness by doing God's will. The people who won't help the ministry of Christ are beyond our help and they will be cast into the fire.

Like, aren't we supposed to love one another, man?

John 13:34 "A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another."

Again, this scripture taken out of context would make it sound like we are supposed to go around drawing hearts and writing love poetry to everyone we see on the streets when nothing could be further from the truth.

To properly discern this saying of Jesus we have to take it into context. Who was Jesus speaking to when He gave us that commandment?

The setting is during the last supper. Jesus is sitting there with His disciples. It was a closed event.

You only need to look at the next verse to realize that Jesus didn't include everyone in this.

By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

We are to love our fellow Christians.

But wait! I'm a Christian!

Maybe you are maybe you aren't. We'll know soon enough. As Jesus tells us in Matthew 7:16-21

16Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Only those who live Christianity in other words.

But isn't everyone a "brother" or a "sister" by virtue that we are all related somehow?

That would be an emphatic no. Jesus tells us that our own flesh and blood family cannot stand in the way of following Him.

Luke 14:26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Not only did Jesus tell us to do this, but He followed it by denying his own mother and siblings. Please turn to Matthew 12:46-50 with me

46While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
47Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
48But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
49And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
50For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

Jesus tells us that only those who follow Him are your brother and sisters.

No, I'm sure I think I'm a Christian even though you're telling me I'm not.

Thankfully, we have the Epistles to deal with this situation. If someone calls his/her self a brother or sister and they continue in sin, the Bible is specific how we are to treat them. Please see 1 Corinthians 5:9-13

9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolator, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.


We are to shun you and ignore you. If you are preaching a Gospel other than what is in the Bible like coddling queers and other assorted sinners, we are to not listen to you. We are not allowed to greet you warmly much less let you into our home or we are culpable in your sins. Please see 2 John 1:9-11.

9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

In summation, there are many verses about love in the Bible that are incorrectly attributed to mean that we are to love everyone no matter what. The Truth, as always, lies in God's Word.

[Tyler the gay troll]

Re: I have a doubt.....

Jesus is my lord and saviour. Of that I have no doubt sir

[Dr. Isaiah Jones]

Re: I have a doubt.....

I'm really sorry your so mad mod. But my last posts have not been bad but you still deny them. Please message me why

Your posts will be approved once you have repented and accepted Jesus as your Lord and Savior. This is a Christian forum, not a homosexual dating site.

[Tyler the gay troll]

Re: I have a doubt.....

I'm really sorry your so mad mod. But my last posts have not been bad but you still deny them. Please message me why

[JustBeatMe]

Re: I have a doubt.....

We have a strict zero tolerance policy against racism. It's usually unsaved trash like Tyler the gay troll that brings racism to our friendly forum.

And what about this post?

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=12372&highlight=nigras

And not just that, lots of the comments looks like they're supporting that racist attitude, I'm deeply worried for that

Hello JustBeatIt. I do not understand your name.

Thank you.

Rusty

It's ok, is a part of a song I heard once

You have to show them that you're really not scared
You're playin' with your life, this ain't no truth or dare
They'll kick you, then they beat you,
Then they'll tell you it's fair
So beat it, but you wanna be bad

Just beat it, beat it, beat it, beat it
No one wants to be defeated
Showin' how funky and strong is your fight
It doesn't matter who's wrong or right

[JustBeatMe]

Re: I have a doubt.....

Why are you twisting the scriptures? I have already shown you where the Bible says works will not save you. Only faith will.

I'm not twisting them, the versicle is very clear, what you do to the smaller brother or sister of our Lord, is like doing the same thing to God himself

Faith is very important, but we must be good samaritans and help our brothers and sisters

"A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." (NIV, John 13:34-35)

"The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your mind, and with all your strength.' "The second is this, 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." (NAS, Mark 12:28-31)

As you see I'm not twisting the scriptures, because that is what they say