[Thinks Design]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Both are important but men are more important. How can you not see that?

YIC

That's not true women are just as important as men. It's true that men are better at science and logic but women are better at caring and languages.

The Designer (God) makes us all for a purpose. Consider the various races: white people are great at building things but not good at being told what to do, Asians are smaller and more cunning, black people can run really fast but are not so great swimmers, Eastern Europeans are taller and slimmer to take up less space but it big countries like America and Russia people are bigger.

It's no accident that we are all different: it's how we are designed.

ThinksDesign.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

That's not true women are just as important as men. It's true that men are better at science and logic but women are better at caring and languages.

The Designer (God) makes us all for a purpose. Consider the various races: white people are great at building things but not good at being told what to do, Asians are smaller and more cunning, black people can run really fast but are not so great swimmers, Eastern Europeans are taller and slimmer to take up less space but it big countries like America and Russia people are bigger.

It's no accident that we are all different: it's how we are designed.

ThinksDesign.

I agree God designed different people for different purposes, though you seem to have twisted Scripture a little. God created woman to serve man, not to excel in caring or languages.

1 Cor 11:7-9
7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.


He created the Hamites to serve other races.

Gen 9:25-27
25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.
26 And he said, Blessed be the Lord God of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.
27 God shall enlarge Japheth, and he shall dwell in the tents of Shem; and Canaan shall be his servant.

He created the wicked so that He could destroy them and display His wrath.

Prov 16:4 The Lord hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.

Rom 9:20-24
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?
21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?
22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:
23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,
24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

He created Pharaoh so that He could harden his heart and send plagues on Egypt.

Ex 9:16 And in very deed for this cause have I raised thee up, for to shew in thee my power; and that my name may be declared throughout all the earth.

He even created some people for eternal salvation, although even then it was ultimately for the purpose of glorifying Himself (v6 below).

Eph 1:4-6
4 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
5 Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
6 To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.

All creation was designed for the glory and pleasure of God.

Rev 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

God's design is indeed evident all around us. It is no accident. It is all according to His plan.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

The first women was made out of a man, rest of us comes from Evas eggs and Adams sperms. This means that men and women are both important.

Was this supposed to endear me to you? Because it doesn't. Tell me, what does the Bible say about women? And what did that have to do with my comment about you reading the Bible, rather than creating a god in your own image?

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

That's not true women are just as important as men. It's true that men are better at science and logic but women are better at caring and languages.

We are also better at cooking, cleaning and producing Christian soldiers, I'm not sure you're liebral pals would agree with what you've had to say here.

The Designer (God) makes us all for a purpose. Consider the various races: white people are great at building things but not good at being told what to do, Asians are smaller and more cunning, black people can run really fast but are not so great swimmers, Eastern Europeans are taller and slimmer to take up less space but it big countries like America and Russia people are bigger.

It's no accident that we are all different: it's how we are designed.

ThinksDesign.

So you agree that race mixing should be illegal?

[Thinks Design]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

We are also better at cooking, cleaning and producing Christian soldiers, I'm not sure you're liebral pals would agree with what you've had to say here.


So you agree that race mixing should be illegal?

Not at all. Some of our best come from mixing.

Just look at Tiger Woods and Dwayne Jonson: that's God handy work, right there.

ThinksDesign.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Not at all. Some of our best come from mixing.

Just look at Tiger Woods and Dwayne Jonson: that's God handy work, right there.

ThinksDesign.

Typical woman: letting your ovaries cloud your judgement

YIC

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

That's not true women are just as important as men.

Some of our best come from mixing.

That's two blasphemous lies you've casually tossed out here on God's favorite forum, and they need to be challenged.

If women were "just as important as men," then why does the Holy Bible say different?

1 Corinthians 11:3
But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 14:34-36
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.

Ephesians 5:22-24
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

Colossians 3:18
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.

1 Timothy 2:11-15
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

1 Peter 3:1
Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands.

And as for race-mixing, show me a man who thinks race-mixing is not an abomination unto God, and I'll show you a man who hasn't read Ezra 9-10.

Ezra 10:3 Now therefore let us make a covenant with our God to put away all the wives, and such as are born of them, according to the counsel of my lord, and of those that tremble at the commandment of our God; and let it be done according to the law.

If you have a dark-skinned wife and a bunch of little half-breed mongrels running around, the way to get right with God is to just abandon them. That's Godly advice straight from the Bible. Your marriage doesn't count anyway and your children are bastards as far as God is concerned. Shout Glory!

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Both are important but men are more important. How can you not see that?

YIC

Men can not give birth, but they can make many women pregnant while a women only can be pregnant one man at a time.

This means men shouldn't work, they should fight. Women should work and give birth to as many God servants as possible also educate the children.

But you are wrong Jesus Christ was a prophet with a free will, otherwise why would God test him for 40 days if he couldn't sin?

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

But you are wrong Jesus Christ was a prophet with a free will, otherwise why would God test him for 40 days if he couldn't sin?

It was Satan who tempted Jesus after He had fasted for 40 days.

Mat 4:1-11
1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

The forty days in the wilderness was of course rigged for Satan to lose, because God cannot be tempted.

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Jesus had no free will.

Jn 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

You seem so serious about the Bible, I like kind people but how can you know that everything comes from the Holy Spirit?

You should test the statements in the Bible after experience, do you get blessed or cursed. Study Gods responses directly... not blindly follow the Bible.

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

It was Satan who tempted Jesus after He had fasted for 40 days.

Mat 4:1-11
1 Then was Jesus led up of the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.
2 And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights, he was afterward an hungred.
3 And when the tempter came to him, he said, If thou be the Son of God, command that these stones be made bread.
4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.
5 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple,
6 And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone.
7 Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
9 And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
10 Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
11 Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

The forty days in the wilderness was of course rigged for Satan to lose, because God cannot be tempted.

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

Jesus had no free will.

Jn 6:38 For I came down from heaven, not to do mine own will, but the will of him that sent me.

If Jesus had no free will, then he was trying to help Satan to come back to heaven.

[ARealTruePapist]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Hi!

I just have a quick question that doesn't really have anything to do with this forum but I thought somebody answer...

I was looking through the forums and found the thread from crankyoldman or something like that saying that down syndrome was a life choice.

I happen to have a brother who has down syndrome and it is not a life choice. Why would anyone choose that life? I'm sure he would rather be a normal boy if he could choose. But he can't. While other boys are starting college, dating a girl, becoming missionaries, moving away, he is at home.

But you say he chose it. Just answer me this;
Do you really believe this and if so, why?

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

People like you with no moral compass apart from being 'true to themselves' make me sick

YIC

I understand, but I believe the future religion will be based on science. People will know God directly, and know what actions satisfy God and what don't.

[evasson]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

Was this supposed to endear me to you? Because it doesn't. Tell me, what does the Bible say about women? And what did that have to do with my comment about you reading the Bible, rather than creating a god in your own image?

It says the first women was created out of a man. She is a part of him, together they compose a whole. The man was alone and God created a other half of himself. For a man to be alone is not good the Bible says.

[Pim Pendergast]

Re: Like some ideas with Babtism

How can you know that everything comes from the Holy Spirit?

Because the Bible tells us so.

2 Tim 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

2 Pet 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

You should test the statements in the Bible after experience, do you get blessed or cursed. Study Gods responses directly... not blindly follow the Bible.

Even if experience told me the Bible was wrong, I'd still believe it because it claims to be the Word of God. But yes, you do get blessed for keeping God's Word and cursed for breaking it.

Ps 19:9b-11
9 The judgments of the Lord are true and righteous altogether.
10 More to be desired are they than gold, yea, than much fine gold: sweeter also than honey and the honeycomb.
11 Moreover by them is thy servant warned: and in keeping of them there is great reward.

Deut 27:26 Cursed be he that confirmeth not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Even if my experience seemed to be telling me that I was not being blessed for following God's Word and sinners weren't being cursed of not following His Word, it would be my perception that was wrong, not the Bible. The Bible is always right. The problem is that if you interpret on your own experience as a word from God, you have no solid basis for your faith. Different people have different experiences and different perceptions of those experiences. Different people can draw different inferences from the same experience. God has already communicated to us through His Word, the 1611 KJV. We live our lives based solely on that revelation. God's Word is enough to help us deal with every facet of complex modern-day life, every trial we may face and every situation we may find ourselves in -- even if some people's distorted perception of their experience leads them to believe it doesn't always work that way in practice.

If Jesus had no free will, then he was trying to help Satan to come back to heaven.

No, He wasn't.