[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

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Your words are extremely encouraging to me and your explanations make perfect sense! It's true that women are simply better with emotional stuff.

I want my wife to see me as you describe and as God intended. I've now realized the important role of discipline in a functional, Godly relationship but, on a practical level, what forms of punishment would you suggest I employ?

Do you, yourself, have a husband? If so, how does he keep you in line? The poetic imagery you use to describe the subservience of the wife suggests to me that you are married to a great man!

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

Welcome to God's favorite forum!

Do you like killing small animals with big guns?

Thank you!

I can't say I've tried it, to be honest with you. It sounds enjoyable enough in theory but does it live up to expectations?

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

Hate is never the answer Nathaniel. I do not hate queers, I pity them. Jesus did not preach that sodomites were to be hated, He only said that Old Testament laws needed to be followed.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:17-18


And that the punishment for same sex coitus is death.

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13


So right now Nathaniel, God might righteously strike you down and send you to Hell for the sinful choices you made in your past. But fear not, Jesus can forgive you of all of sins if you accept Him and become an Ex-Gay© True Christian™.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1st John 1:9


Do not let your heart be filled with self hate for all the loads of manseed that you took into your body, let pity for your own wretchedness drive out the vile self loathing you and all fags feel. Jesus is the way Nathaniel, let Him pity you for the vile wretch that you are! Only then can He turn that self pity you will soon hopefully feel into a blind, loving obedience to Him!

I was right to accept your help, you are clearly very wise! I will be thinking on what you've said.

I will do whatever needs to be done to become an Ex-Gay© True Christian™.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

I'm deeply ashamed of my past
. . the pleasure of the drugs
. . Even now, it sometimes feels strange to me that my own wife
. . I'm so ashamed

I must blame my upbringing. I never saw my father discipline
. . I just wouldn't know where to start with effective punishment
. . dilemma that keeps me awake at night

Remember that your wife sees you as you see God.

EPHESIANS 5
11–12 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light.
17 ..be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is.
19 Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
22–23 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
KJV .. context notice in particular verse 33

It is important to appreciate that she does not see you as a king. Of course kings do have subjects, just think of the glory of a coronation or a royal wedding, but your wife does not see you like that. Compared to her you are mich higher up. Even a king is subject to God. Think of a fantastic royal pageant, the ermine, the carriages, the proud and glossy horses, the dashing princes and at the pinnacle of majesty the king himself, radiant in authority, supreme Admiral of the navy, chief of the air force, absolute master of the cavalry, skilled pilot and horseman imagine him in battle.

And there beneath the hooves of his glorious snorting stallion is a lowly worm. Or perhaps a severed appendage, a toe, say.
One twitch away from death or two.

Carelessly, the king wipes blood, from his sword alert for the next treasonous wretch and there among the hooves and guts the twitching member has almost done but in reality that meagre life so fleeting is our king beneath the Majesty of God.

ROMANS 12
3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith.
4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office:
5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.
KJV

She doesn't see you as her king. You may indeed attend a royal procession and see the king mounted aloft, stallion prancing, soldier gleaming, cannon blasting, aircraft rushing like the noise of great waters but you also see God. As far above the king as he is above you. It is a wonder that God should ever see you at all and there beneath you two grades down is your wife now imagine your father.

Denied the pleasure of his discipline you sought the pleasure of drugs. And that is where you need to start. To unwind the spool of shame he coiled around you guided by the watchful and approving eye of his awful wife your mother. That is why your wife seems strange to you and why without discipline she will never adore you. The discipline your father rejected is the discipline you must now accept. Then she will see you as you truly are.

I CORINTHIANS 12
24 For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked:
25 That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another.
26 And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it.
27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
KJV .. context notice in particular verse 23

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

I feel an almost inexplicable compulsion to open up to God and let Him to work through me to open the eyes of the unsaved heretics. I hope you all feel the same.

Welcome to God's favorite forum!

Do you like killing small animals with big guns?

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

Professor, I have come to hate fags even more than the drugs which originally put me in that position. You see the drugs were inanimate - harmless until I snorted or injected them - but the hellbound homosexuals willingly took advantage of me and, ignoring my young age, tore me over and over again. They tore me further and further away from the Lord and I would do anything to right the wrongs in my past! Money is no issue, I need to do this.

I would really love for you to get right inside me, inside my mind, and help me to rid myself of this poison once and for all. I pray that with your help I will never get down on my knees for anyone except the Lord ever again!

Praise the Lord for showing me the way once more!!

Hate is never the answer Nathaniel. I do not hate queers, I pity them. Jesus did not preach that sodomites were to be hated, He only said that Old Testament laws needed to be followed.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 5:17-18


And that the punishment for same sex coitus is death.

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Leviticus 20:13


So right now Nathaniel, God might righteously strike you down and send you to Hell for the sinful choices you made in your past. But fear not, Jesus can forgive you of all of sins if you accept Him and become an Ex-Gay© True Christian™.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1st John 1:9


Do not let your heart be filled with self hate for all the loads of manseed that you took into your body, let pity for your own wretchedness drive out the vile self loathing you and all fags feel. Jesus is the way Nathaniel, let Him pity you for the vile wretch that you are! Only then can He turn that self pity you will soon hopefully feel into a blind, loving obedience to Him!

[Nurse Clampett]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

Oh right. Well if it was up to me, they'd all be getting a hollow point welfare cheque right in their smug, God-mocking faces.

I was talking about the Professor's wonderful gay-cleansing process.

There is not too high a price to pay for Eternal Salvation my friend!
Hello and welcome! I pray God gives you the way to Professor Bessemer's services. His are blessed and experienced hands you will find yourself in.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

What service? You don't pay me for anything. I was just wondering if you have a job or if you are a freeloading liberal welfare tax-leech.

Oh right. Well if it was up to me, they'd all be getting a hollow point welfare cheque right in their smug, God-mocking faces.

I was talking about the Professor's wonderful gay-cleansing process.

[Nobar King]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

What service? You don't pay me for anything. I was just wondering if you have a job or if you are a freeloading liberal welfare tax-leech.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

Do you have a job?

Only low-paid retail work.

I simply assumed that the price of your service here would be reasonable out of Christian compassion.

[Nobar King]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

Money is no issue, I need to do this.

Do you have a job?

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

Hallelujah Nathaniel! Now, do you not feel better? I know I do! My spirit was lifted by your story of debauchery and I felt a powerful release of the Lord's love at the climax of you stirring testimony. Thank you for that Nathaniel. Glory to God!

But now I have some less than good news for you son. Your belief that you were never actually a disgusting fag is incorrect. Even worse, you are still a filthy sodomite as we speak. You see, the only way for a prancing queen drug junkie such as yourself to be cured is for you to complete a Landover approved Ex-Gay© program.

If you have sufficient funds and you are approved by our board of registered aversion therapists, we can help you. But you must really want to be cured Nathaniel. You must want it desperately. The desire to feel the white hot, stinging love of Jesus deep, deep inside you must consume your every waking moment. Is that what you want son, do you want Him to enter you and fill you up with His holy essence so bad that you can taste it? If so, then your rocky road to salvation begins today! Praise!

Professor, I have come to hate fags even more than the drugs which originally put me in that position. You see the drugs were inanimate - harmless until I snorted or injected them - but the hellbound homosexuals willingly took advantage of me and, ignoring my young age, tore me over and over again. They tore me further and further away from the Lord and I would do anything to right the wrongs in my past! Money is no issue, I need to do this.

I would really love for you to get right inside me, inside my mind, and help me to rid myself of this poison once and for all. I pray that with your help I will never get down on my knees for anyone except the Lord ever again!

Praise the Lord for showing me the way once more!!

[Professor Bessemer]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

He is merciful indeed!

I'm deeply ashamed of my past homosexual sin but you must understand that, as a 16-year-old boy, whoring yourself to women is not really an option -- I would know, I tried, to no avail. I don't think I was ever truly homosexual but I'll admit that I did grow to crave the most sacred parts of other men inside my own least sacred part. I think I simply learned to associate it with the pleasure of the drugs I would subsequently buy with the money. Even now, it sometimes feels strange to me that my own wife does not have any extra appendages. It has taken me a long time to begin to shed my submissive, bitch role and take on the more dominant, masculine role that God intended for me.

In my darkest days, I would attempt to maximize my profit in despicable ways. I'd have oral and anal sex simultaneously with two different men - when none of us had previously met - just to make my time more valuable. Professor, I'm so ashamed. I would say I'm still carrying that load around with me today. And it's just so heavy, it's never really dissolved.

Hallelujah Nathaniel! Now, do you not feel better? I know I do! My spirit was lifted by your story of debauchery and I felt a powerful release of the Lord's love at the climax of you stirring testimony. Thank you for that Nathaniel. Glory to God!

But now I have some less than good news for you son. Your belief that you were never actually a disgusting fag is incorrect. Even worse, you are still a filthy sodomite as we speak. You see, the only way for a prancing queen drug junkie such as yourself to be cured is for you to complete a Landover approved Ex-Gay© program.

If you have sufficient funds and you are approved by our board of registered aversion therapists, we can help you. But you must really want to be cured Nathaniel. You must want it desperately. The desire to feel the white hot, stinging love of Jesus deep, deep inside you must consume your every waking moment. Is that what you want son, do you want Him to enter you and fill you up with His holy essence so bad that you can taste it? If so, then your rocky road to salvation begins today! Praise!

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

I'll be praying for you, Brother Nathaniel. Welcome!

Thank you, sister. Nice to meet you.

[Elijah Mee, PhD]

Re: Seeking redemption and enlightenment through our Lord Jesus Christ

Our moderation staff takes great care to keep underage unsaved trash off of our holy board, so you can feel comfortable unburdening your soul to us. Nathaniel, believe me when I tell you will feel much, much better if you testify to us, in explicit detail, about several of your most disturbing, drug addled sodomitic trysts. The Lord is ready to forgive you.

He is merciful indeed!

I'm deeply ashamed of my past homosexual sin but you must understand that, as a 16-year-old boy, whoring yourself to women is not really an option -- I would know, I tried, to no avail. I don't think I was ever truly homosexual but I'll admit that I did grow to crave the most sacred parts of other men inside my own least sacred part. I think I simply learned to associate it with the pleasure of the drugs I would subsequently buy with the money. Even now, it sometimes feels strange to me that my own wife does not have any extra appendages. It has taken me a long time to begin to shed my submissive, bitch role and take on the more dominant, masculine role that God intended for me.

In my darkest days, I would attempt to maximize my profit in despicable ways. I'd have oral and anal sex simultaneously with two different men - when none of us had previously met - just to make my time more valuable. Professor, I'm so ashamed. I would say I'm still carrying that load around with me today. And it's just so heavy, it's never really dissolved.