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  • MitzaLizalor
    Completely CRAZY for the Lord
    True Christian™
    • Sep 2010
    • 14495

    #16
    Re: Islam is evil

    Originally posted by Islamaman View Post
    Salvation has to be earned, not obtained by believing in a fairy tale of a zombie hanging on the cross. Amazingly, the cross becomes a symbol of worship. People were killed on the cross for heavens sake! Some people just don't get it, don't they. They keep making a mockery of the Creator of the heavens and earth by saying He had a son. That is the worse insult anyone could give to the Creator. Beware you ignorant fools! You are going to have the hardest time on Judgement day. Jesus Christ awaits to return by the permission of the Creator and when he comes, he is going to tell you who he really is and those referring to him as God better be ready for the shock, in case you are still alive. If you die calling him God, you are doomed forever!
    God CANNOT have a son. People made Jesus God. God does not die, is Immortal and self sufficient. Jesus is mortal, will die and has needs. He is a HUMAN being chosen by God to be His messenger and will return to fulfill his prophecy.Countless mistakes in the bible. God does NOT make mistakes. Jesus even never said he is a Christian. The book that you swear upon is NOT the teachings of Jesus but the writings of John who wrote 90 to 100 years after Jesus. Mark, Luke and Mathew wrote before John and they missed out all the important verses of John? and revelation? It was a dream. Use you God gifted mind to think openly and research. The message is clear. Either you put your glass in the right position and let the water pour in or you can turn your glass upside down and even if the entire ocean is poured into your glass, no water will go in the glass. Choice belongs to YOU! Make the right choice before you run out of options. This is not a matter of faith but rather a matter of the TRUTH and we are talking about Salvation here. It's a BIG matter. Allahuwalam.?
    Could you give the Koranic reference for Salvation please.

    Salvation cannot be earned. It's a waste of time trying to get God obligated in some way. His worst is so far beyond the best you can imagine you're a maggot in His eyes. That is why He sent Jesus, to experience torture first hand and reiterate His firm resolve that all base wretches deserve an infinite amount of it. Wretches like you.

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    • Pim Pendergast
      PHD - Theophysicist
      Saving The Lost With The Truth Of Applied Theoscience
      True Christian™
      • Jun 2012
      • 3103

      #17
      Re: Islam is evil

      Originally posted by Islamaman View Post
      Salvation has to be earned, not obtained by believing in a fairy tale of a zombie hanging on the cross.
      Eph 2:8-9 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.

      If salvation could be earned, then those who make it to heaven could boast that they got in on their own merit, and God doesn't want that.

      They keep making a mockery of the Creator of the heavens and earth by saying He had a son. That is the worse insult anyone could give to the Creator. God CANNOT have a son.
      Jn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

      God begat, or fathered, Jesus. What's so insulting about that? Any man or beast can sire offspring. Why not God?

      You are going to have the hardest time on Judgement day. Jesus Christ awaits to return by the permission of the Creator and when he comes, he is going to tell you who he really is and those referring to him as God better be ready for the shock, in case you are still alive. If you die calling him God, you are doomed forever!
      I think you'll be the one in for a shock when you and your prophet Muhammed kneel and confess that Jesus is Lord.

      Phil 2:5-11
      5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
      6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:

      7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:
      8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
      9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
      10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
      11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


      People made Jesus God. God does not die, is Immortal and self sufficient. Jesus is mortal, will die and has needs.
      I suppose it would be much easier to believe that God made Judas look like Jesus so that he would be crucified in His place and it would look as though Jesus had died. What kind of a God would go to such lengths to deceive people?

      Countless mistakes in the bible.
      Name one.

      I know you Muslims are fond of covering up contradictions in the Koran by claiming that a later verse abrogates an earlier verse. But according to the Koran, "No change can there be in the Words of Allah" (Sura 10:64) and
      "There is none that can alter the Words of Allah" (Sura 6:34).

      The book that you swear upon is NOT the teachings of Jesus but the writings of John who wrote 90 to 100 years after Jesus. Mark, Luke and Mathew wrote before John and they missed out all the important verses of John? and revelation? It was a dream.
      Can you quote a source to support your claim?

      Use you God gifted mind to think openly and research. Choice belongs to YOU! Make the right choice before you run out of options. We are talking about Salvation here. It's a BIG matter.
      I could say the same thing to you.

      This is not a matter of faith but rather a matter of the TRUTH
      What do you mean by this? Surely, you accept the Koran on faith. You can't know that it's true. There's a lot of evidence to suggest that it's flawed. You accept it on faith.
      sigpicMt 21:42, 44 Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes . . . ? And whosoever shall fall on this stone shall be broken: but on whomsoever it shall fall, it will grind him to powder.

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      • Beginning Of Wisdom
        Forum Member
        Forum Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 45

        #18
        Re: Islam is evil

        What I don't get about Islamaniacs is why they read the Quaran. It's a book of fiction!

        For the truth you go to the KJV Bible.

        Why read fiction when you can read the True Scriptures(TM) ?

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        • Pastor Isaac Peters
          Senior Pastor
          Ex-liberal; converted to True Christianity™
          Always Biblically correct
          True Christian™
          • Sep 2006
          • 10639

          #19
          Re: Islam is evil

          Originally posted by Beginning Of Wisdom View Post
          What I don't get about Islamaniacs is why they read the Quaran. It's a book of fiction!

          For the truth you go to the KJV Bible.

          Why read fiction when you can read the True Scriptures™ ?
          Indeed, dear friend. There is just no comparison between the unholy Qur'an and the King James Bible. One of them contains the rantings of an epileptic desert nomad who hallucinated visits from angels and incorporated distorted versions of earlier religions' scriptures. Those rantings, half-remembered by his followers, were later written down in a book. Still later, a power-mad religious leader redacted that book and had all competing editions burned in order to "prove" that he had an accurate record of the revelation. The other is God's inspired and preserved Word.
          This church is dedicated to preaching True Christianity™ and the King James Bible exactly as they are, with no alterations to make them more politically correct for modern liberals. If you think that we've misquoted or twisted Scripture or quoted any verse out of context, please explain in detail how we've done so. Otherwise, if what you read on this site offends you, then you're offended by Almighty God and His Word, not by us.

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          • see_the_light
            True Christian™
            True Christian™
            • Nov 2006
            • 1386

            #20
            Re: Islam is evil

            Originally posted by Pastor Isaac Peters View Post
            One of them contains the rantings of an epileptic desert nomad who hallucinated visits from angels and incorporated distorted versions of earlier religions' scriptures. Those rantings, half-remembered by his followers, were later written down in a book. Still later, a power-mad religious leader redacted that book and had all competing editions burned in order to "prove" that he had an accurate record of the revelation.
            If people believe in that nonsensical excuse for a book they'll believe anything.

            At least Scheherazade called a spade a spade and the 1001 nights are fraught with demons and forbidden magic.

            (tough the story telling is tops as far as rag-head books are concerned... probably hindoo stuff, those arabs couldn't write a decent novel without help)

            PRAISE THE LORD!

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            • MitzaLizalor
              Completely CRAZY for the Lord
              True Christian™
              • Sep 2010
              • 14495

              #21
              Re: Islam is evil

              Originally posted by see_the_light View Post
              If people believe in that nonsensical excuse for a book they'll believe anything.

              At least Scheherazade called a spade a spade and the 1001 nights are fraught with demons and forbidden magic.

              (tough the story telling is tops as far as rag-head books are concerned... probably hindoo stuff, those arabs couldn't write a decent novel without help)

              PRAISE THE LORD!
              Have you come across the fiction of "islamic science" spouted by just about every jihadi in between slicing their babies' heads to worship Asherah?
              We know that there is good science and bad science.
              Scripture .. Scripture

              Of all the great men from history Daniel is one of the least readily accused of profane or vain babblings. Daniel was not a sub-literate psychotic with brain lesions. He witnessed for The LORD even in the face of death.
              The mohammedan is very different. Here's one slicing a baby.

              That look of bliss upon the woman's face is not really bliss. It is deep psychosis. All she wants to do right now is to get that blood squirting. Soon her child will closer to the truth of islam when it gets its very own brain lesions to take home. To keep. And if it stands out in the sun in later years banging its head with a club for several hours it might be rewarded with some hallucinations. This is exactly what one would expect from brainwashing systems invented by a psychopath. Mohammed was that psychopath. The systems of government from all such sources are based on genocide, rape, murder and destruction. The islamic destruction of everything expresses that ideal particularly with respect to science. Sure, any old convulsing sex pervert can spring down from a cave and murder a camel train. Or even a whole town. And sure, they'd've gotten their paws on some sort of tech. books which the literate ones could probably read. It's like stealing a machine gun.

              r-r-r-rat-tat-tat (the gun) squirt squirt squirt (the blood) wheeeeeeeeeeee!! (the mohammedan)

              Then it runs outa bullets and the party's over. And that's exactly what happened to science & technology plundered by the psycho boys all across Arabia and the Near East and everywhere else they went. It probably worked for a while, but soon it ran out of bullets and the plunderers didn't even know what a bullet was let alone how to make one until Al Ghazali declared the whole undertaking satanic, by which time anyone with any technical skills had been exterminated or converted to brain lesions.

              Al Ghazali was half right. He kept the satanic bit and threw away the useful bit. All the developed scientific cultures of the day were blasted back to the stone age and remain there today. They even had to import iron and steel for their swords from India. The religion of the sword couldn't even produce it's own metal.

              That's one smelly big baby slicer of story-telling right there Mr Light. Would you recommend 1001 nights as suitable reading for me? As long as it doesn't push their religious agenda there might some interesting chapters but I'll wait for your recommendation.

              But what a nonsensical excuse for a book the koran. I've got one here as a pdf and read it from time to time. How on earth anyone could regard such material as having any divine origin is beyond me, atrocity piled as it is upon atrocity. "oh, but you're misunderstanding," I hear; "it doesn't really mean what you say it means," and so I look around: that's what it seems to mean today, I think, so that can be all it's ever meant.

              The baby slicing is nothing new.
              I KINGS 18
              27
              And it came to pass at noon, that Elijah mocked them, and said, Cry aloud: for he is a god; either he is talking, or he is pursuing, or he is in a journey, or peradventure he sleepeth, and must be awaked.
              28 And they cried aloud, and cut themselves after their manner with knives and lancets, till the blood gushed out upon them.
              29 And it came to pass, when midday was past, and they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that there was neither voice, nor any to answer, nor any that regarded.
              KJV .. look up


              Neither is the crying aloud.

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              • see_the_light
                True Christian™
                True Christian™
                • Nov 2006
                • 1386

                #22
                Re: Islam is evil

                Originally posted by MitzaLizalor View Post
                That's one smelly big baby slicer of story-telling right there Mr Light. Would you recommend 1001 nights as suitable reading for me? As long as it doesn't push their religious agenda there might some interesting chapters but I'll wait for your recommendation.

                Of course not!

                I just mentioned that at least in the arabian nights the demons/djins are not portrayed as angels (like the camel pilot did in his drunkard's ramblings).

                Both the Q-TIP'ran and the arabian nights are satan inspired works of no moral or religious value (the arabian nights being a much finer deception with some style thrown in).

                As for rag-head science, it is only slightly less abhorring than the false science of the atheistic fools in the west. How they have forgotten...

                Ecclesiastes 1:13-17

                And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
                I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit. That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.
                I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, aI am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.
                And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and dolly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.

                PRAISE THE LORD!

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