[Granelli]

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I agree that it's really nice to see that some countries have made their secular laws to follow the laws of Jesus. It's only matter of time before we get Christians leading greatest country in the world, then America will be following biblical law as well.

GLORY!

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

I understand that you guys like that kind of thing but personally i think it is horrific. I mean you guys are going to heaven while the other are going to hell FOR ALL ETERNITY why do you feel like it is a must to attack them in this relative short life?

And to my knowledge you follow every line of the bible like law right?
How about this one: Luke 6:37

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

James 4:12

There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

I mean they are pretty straight forward.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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It's a command to you guys that you should teach the way of christ, and if the pupils reject it so be it. And they will probally burn in hell, you have done what you could. Teach can never mean enforce you views

Did someone come to your home, identify themselves as a pastor of Landover Baptist Church, force you to your knees, shove some bread and grape juice and the ever love of Christ down your throat, compel you to start populating the earth, and then brainwash you to believe everything you read in the Holy Bible or something? Where on earth are you getting these bizarre ideas of anyone forcing you to do anything?

[hellboyer]

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God created everything, including all evil.
Luckily for us, God is most merciful! All you need to do is follow His every word. If you decide to spit in His face, He will make Satan to torment you for all eternity.

i dont realy mind spending time with satan he seems like a cooler guy cus he dont have rules what iv bin told and found out and god sounds so crule and strict but hey what am i to judge cus only god may judge you right?

[Granelli]

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Did someone come to your home, identify themselves as a pastor of Landover Baptist Church, force you to your knees, shove some bread and grape juice and the ever love of Christ down your throat, compel you to start populating the earth, and then brainwash you to believe everything you read in the Holy Bible or something? Where on earth are you getting these bizarre ideas of anyone forcing you to do anything?

No, no one have done that to me. BUT I have actually lurked around here for a while before posting this so I knew your standpoints and one of them is enforcing laws to accomodate your beliefs. For example against gaymarriage or against abortions. There you are trying to enforce other people to live according to your beleifs

[Mary Etheldreda]

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No, no one have done that to me. BUT I have actually lurked around here for a while before posting this so I knew your standpoints and one of them is enforcing laws to accomodate your beliefs. For example against gaymarriage or against abortions. There you are trying to enforce other people to live according to your beleifs

You're confused. As a nation founded on Christian principles, we desire freedom for everyone - freedom from being gang-raped by roving packs of Sodomites, freedom from losing your children to the New Atheists, freedom from having to support sin and the inevitable consequence of God's Wrath it will wreak on all society.

[Granelli]

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You're confused. As a nation founded on Christian principles, we desire freedom for everyone - freedom from being gang-raped by roving packs of Sodomites, freedom from losing your children to the New Atheists, freedom from having to support sin and the inevitable consequence of God's Wrath it will wreak on all society.

Actually USA got founded on atheist principles. There is nothing in your constitution that says anything about christianity except freedom from it. When USA got free from UK that was one big thing they wanted to change from how it was in the UK, they wanted freedom of religion.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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Actually USA got founded on atheist principles. There is nothing in your constitution that says anything about christianity except freedom from it. When USA got free from UK that was one big thing they wanted to change from how it was in the UK, they wanted freedom of religion.

You're confused. The Fathers of the Constitution were all Christians, and they even recognized God's Sovereignty in the Declaration of Independence.

[Granelli]

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You're confused. The Fathers of the Constitution were all Christians, and they even recognized God's Sovereignty in the Declaration of Independence.

In recent decades Christian advocacy groups, prompted by motives that have been questioned by some, have felt a powerful urge to enlist the Founding Fathers in their respective congregations. But recovering the spiritual convictions of the Founders, in all their messy integrity, is not an easy task. Once again, diversity is the dominant pattern. Franklin and Jefferson were deists, Washington harbored a pantheistic sense of providential destiny, John Adams began a Congregationalist and ended a Unitarian, Hamilton was a lukewarm Anglican for most of his life but embraced a more actively Christian posture after his son died in a duel.

there you go, and also

Although the Declaration of Independence mentioned “Nature’s God” and the “Creator,” the Constitution made no reference to a divine being, Christian or otherwise, and the First Amendment explicitly forbid the establishment of any official church or creed.

[Mary Etheldreda]

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In recent decades Christian advocacy groups, prompted by motives that have been questioned by some, have felt a powerful urge to enlist the Founding Fathers in their respective congregations. But recovering the spiritual convictions of the Founders, in all their messy integrity, is not an easy task. Once again, diversity is the dominant pattern. Franklin and Jefferson were deists, Washington harbored a pantheistic sense of providential destiny, John Adams began a Congregationalist and ended a Unitarian, Hamilton was a lukewarm Anglican for most of his life but embraced a more actively Christian posture after his son died in a duel.

there you go, and also

Although the Declaration of Independence mentioned “Nature’s God” and the “Creator,” the Constitution made no reference to a divine being, Christian or otherwise, and the First Amendment explicitly forbid the establishment of any official church or creed.

Read their own words.

[Granelli]

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Read their own words.

Evfen if that site was true (which it's not) The constitution does not even mention christianity. It actually forbids a official church!

[Nobar King]

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Even if that site was true (which it's not) The constitution does not even mention christianity. It actually forbids a official church!

That's like having a sign in your restaurant that reads, "shoes and shirts required (state law #>>>)." You can have a poolside restaurant, but the law allows you this restriction at restaurants that are not at the beach or the pool. That aside, you don't need a sign at your restaurant that reads, "shoes, shirts, and pants required." The pants part is implied.

Even though you may think that the constitution forbids an official Church, this is still a Christian nation. Every day congress is begun with a prayer from an ordained official.

Even our money is printed, "in God we trust." What God do you think they meant other than the father of Jesus Christ?

[Alphonse Alban]

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I understand that you guys like that kind of thing but personally i think it is horrific. I mean you guys are going to heaven while the other are going to hell FOR ALL ETERNITY why do you feel like it is a must to attack them in this relative short life?

Your views are truly twisted, we care about their souls. Anyone can cured of their sinful ways. Even these gaysexuals. We are saving souls by telling the truth. We are not evil like some lieberal false Christians who are telling lies about all loving God and thus luring people in hell. Unlike them, we care.

And to my knowledge you follow every line of the bible like law right?
How about this one: Luke 6:37

“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven;

James 4:12

There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?

I mean they are pretty straight forward.

Yes, they are one of my favorite bits. If you read them in context you notice that they are telling us how we must judge when we judge just like Jesus commanded us to Judge. You should read the bible sometime yourself. Start today, it might change your life and better yet, save your soul.

i dont realy mind spending time with satan

You will mind. No one will think getting tormented is nice.

cus only god may judge you right?

Wrong.

[Alvin Moss]

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What's up forum? I am doing this introduction after many requests. I am 18 years old from Sweden, and I just stumbled upon this website yesterday and thought some of your opinions are hilarious. Who am I kidding, I think everything on this website is hilarious.
But something I dont find hilarious is when you guys are trying to enforce your views on other people. I live my life like i dont get all up in anyone elses shit and try to dictate their life if they leave me alone. And it have worked so far. And yes i know you dont really care if it works in this life as it is the afterlife that counts for you, but since I dont beleive in a afterlife it's okay for me.

As you might have guessed I am an atheist. And I'm not even baptized. And of course i support gay marriage and stuff like that since I dont want to get up all in other peoples buissness. Both my parents are chemists and no one of my relatives are religious at all. Me myself is really into sports and swiming and also teaches children how to swim.

I understand that I'm not really welcome here but to be honest it is really funny for me to see how messed up some people are. I am not trying to change you or anything, that is just my view of you guys.
Just ask me if you want to know anything
/Peace Granelli

We do not try to enforce our views on others. The Lord has bid us to deliver the good news and we follow His direction. Whether you accept God's word is up to you. If you do, you will live forever. If not, you will go to Hell.

We do not accept sin, as you have noted. God abhors sin and we are people of God. It is our place to fight sin, not to encourage it as those who accept it do. All those who do, the sinners and their enablers, will burn in Hell.

Those who have no direction and no moral qualms are those we are directed to give information to. Thus, when an unsaved wretch like yourself comes along, we rejoice at the chance to save you from perdition. The odds are against us; we know that, but the Lord guides us and we must do as He commands. We know we will fail to save most we encounter and frankly, there isn't room in Heaven for everyone anyway. Still, we always try.

Why are you here, Granelli? You already knew Christians exist. We are no surprise to you, I am sure. Why do you waste your time on us? Could it be that the Lord brought you here to try to save you? If not, why do you bother?

[Granelli]

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We do not try to enforce our views on others. The Lord has bid us to deliver the good news and we follow His direction. Whether you accept God's word is up to you. If you do, you will live forever. If not, you will go to Hell.

Why are you here, Granelli? You already knew Christians exist. We are no surprise to you, I am sure. Why do you waste your time on us? Could it be that the Lord brought you here to try to save you? If not, why do you bother?

First thing, yes you do try to enforce your veiws on people. I mean you are trying to dictate how people lives by laws such as against abortion or gaymarriage.

And why I am here? because I find it intresting, I really dont think you can convert me since i think you guys are basically mentaly ill people. And i also like training arguing with people, the hardest there is is arguing with idiots that dont accept your points. Thats why you find it hard to talk to liberals/me. But I also find it fun to argue and thinking out a way I can make you understand why I think like I do. I am not trying to change you guys just change your views of other people.
Even if you are "true christians" you dont have to be racist asgainst people you dont know.

[Pastor Ed Lowman]

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First thing, yes you do try to enforce your veiws on people. I mean you are trying to dictate how people lives by laws such as against abortion or gaymarriage.

And why I am here? because I find it intresting, I really dont think you can convert me since i think you guys are basically mentaly ill people. And i also like training arguing with people, the hardest there is is arguing with idiots that dont accept your points. Thats why you find it hard to talk to liberals/me. But I also find it fun to argue and thinking out a way I can make you understand why I think like I do. I am not trying to change you guys just change your views of other people.
Even if you are "true christians" you dont have to be racist asgainst people you dont know.

You seem like a logical fellow, so answer me this: If Jesus wants us to preach our views (as we both agree that He does via Matthew 28:19-20), then don't you think He would want nothing more for His children than to use whatever power and influence they have (legally and otherwise) to promote Biblical change???

I'm sure we'll both agree that the answer can only be yes.

Regards,

Pastor Ed