[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Ignorant, Communist, Freedom-Hating Hippie

So because "tare," which refers to all weeds, therefore refers to marijuana, using a reference clearly not used at that time. Even if it was, weed did not grow in those regions at that time!!

Also, thank you for changing my name to redundant redundant redundant hippie.

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

You're right, "tare" is weed. But it is not marijuana.

Tare refers to any of various weedy plants of the genus Vicia, especially the common vetch.

It is a weed, but it's the kind you pull out of gardens, not smoke.

My dear hippie,

You are using a fallacy called equivocation. You take the Wikipedia definition of "tare" and assume that that's it, no other definitions needed. You're satisfied and feel victorious.

The world and God's True Word are not that easy to unravel.

First, we have the dictionary (Merriam-Webster, if you think it is deficient, please, contact the publisher and sue them) definition: "a weed of grain fields especially of Biblical times that is usually held to be the darnel (that's a kind of hay of Poaceae family)." What this means is: tare is a weed of grain, i.e., it is harmful when you're growing actual food and not only trying to get high. Before God provided us with pesticides, there were, however, many harmful weeds of grain. Cannabis is one of them.

I refer you to a modern study on the nature of Cannabis sativa.
Reisinger P et al. 2005: Competitiveness and precision management of the noxious weed Cannabis sativa L. in winter wheat (this means "grain"). COMMUNICATIONS IN SOIL SCIENCE AND PLANT ANALYSIS 36, 629-634. They say, e.g.: "Wild hemp (Cannabis sativa ssp. spontanea) is a rapidly spreading weed in Hungary that forms large and stable patches in most agricultural fields". Exactly what would be expected of the Biblical tare. Q.O.D.

Thus, we have:

Tare = use the definition that is Biblically relevant
->Tare = harmful weed of grain
Harmful weed of grain = Cannabis sativa.

Many people come here with confirmation bias, sure of their own ignorance and certain to win any debate. They come badly prepared and usually become easily irritated and end up in a tantrum because their one-sided notions are not accepted. You don't have to do that. You can accept that, in addition to your biased way of looking at things, other possibilities are open. Here's the most important of them:

1 Peter 2:15-16. Read it as well. For so is the will of God, that with well doing ye may put to silence the ignorance of foolish men: As free, and not using [your] liberty for a cloke of maliciousness, but as the servants of God.

It is easy to fall into seeking only information that supports your flawed views (such as this tare issue). True maturity can come when you accept also data that are contrary to your skewed beliefs, embrace JESUS and learn a bit of humility. Until that time you're not very interesting for discussions!

Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

You're right, "tare" is weed. But it is not marijuana.

Tare refers to any of various weedy plants of the genus Vicia, especially the common vetch.

It is a weed, but it's the kind you pull out of gardens, not smoke.

[see_the_light]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

First point: I assure you Morton, I have no such decal. I would never own anything that ties me to the horrible country I reside.

Second point: I would very much like to know how, first, weed makes me gay, and second, how weed invites demons. Please back up with scripture.

Matthew 13:37-38

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;

Tare being weed in case you're analphabet.

The wicked one satan himself.

If you invite satan, you invite his demons and his abominations.

PRAY TO JESUS!

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

....nor your American flag decal.....
....and try not to be too high when you do since that makes you gay and invites demonic possession.

First point: I assure you Morton, I have no such decal. I would never own anything that ties me to the horrible country I reside.

Second point: I would very much like to know how, first, weed makes me gay, and second, how weed invites demons. Please back up with scripture.

[see_the_light]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

Things that contradict I obviously don't believe simultaneously.

And how do you (cherry) pick?

And by what authority or mandate?

PRAY TO JESUS!

[Didymus Much]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

...There are things in Buddhism I agree with whole-heartedly. There are things in Confucianism I agree with whole-heartedly...

So what do you disagree with, with regard to the teachings of Buddhism and Confucianism?

And why aren't you off pestering them?

[Morton Weinstein]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

Exodus 20:3
Thou shalt haue no other Gods before me.There is only one true living God.
If you pick and choose some things among Buddhism, Confucianism, Shinto, Pastafarianism, or any other religion, all you are picking and choosing is FLUFF. It means nothing, will get you nowhere, and really makes God jealous.

Pacifism (nor your American flag decal) will not get you into Heaven. Only the shed blood of our PRECIOUS Lord Jesus Christ, which flowed for you on Calvary's tree, will ensure the Salvation(R) of your soul. Brother, I urge you to read the HOLY BIBLE, and try not to be too high when you do since that makes you gay and invites demonic possession. The reading of our Lord's Word deserves dignity, respect, and decorum. Put on a shirt.

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

A man who agrees with some of God's word, but disagrees with other parts of God's word is not a Christian. Either you believe or you don't. You can't have it both ways.

You are not a believer, therefore you are not a Christian. You are a false Christian, in the fashion of the Romans or the Mormans...or the Methodists, Lutherans, Church of Christ, Church of England, Presbyterians, Episcopals, and so on.

Best you get right with Jesus. It's that or Hell. Don't go there; it's too hot.

I am not explicitly Christian, nor am I explicitly Buddhist, nor Muslim, nor Taoism nor any of the religions I subscribe to. I have taken what make the most sense morally, ethically, and socially from all of them and that, my friends, is my religion.

Have any of you seen Life of Pi?? Pi has the same beliefs that I do, that religions can be essentially mixed. I would recommend both the book and the movie.

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

I did, if you read the whole post. Things that contradict I obviously don't believe simultaneously. I don't believe in any of the "facts" each gives, such as each's creation stories, but I believe in some of the core values of all of them, like loving your neighbor, leading a moral life, Jen, Zakat, and ying-yang. These are just a few examples!

Dear friend, how is that functionally different from picking and choosing the parts of each religion that agree with what you wanted to believe anyway?

[Alvin Moss]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

Basillisa, cannabis is marijuana.

And I apologize, I didn't see the verses Mr. Peters quoted. That is one aspect of Christianity I disagree with.

A man who agrees with some of God's word, but disagrees with other parts of God's word is not a Christian. Either you believe or you don't. You can't have it both ways.

You are not a believer, therefore you are not a Christian. You are a false Christian, in the fashion of the Romans or the Mormans...or the Methodists, Lutherans, Church of Christ, Church of England, Presbyterians, Episcopals, and so on.

Best you get right with Jesus. It's that or Hell. Don't go there; it's too hot.

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

Unfortunately for you there is ONE thing they all agree on (although only one is right about).... All the others are wrong.

Now untangle this one without snapping your backbone (if available)

I did, if you read the whole post. Things that contradict I obviously don't believe simultaneously. I don't believe in any of the "facts" each gives, such as each's creation stories, but I believe in some of the core values of all of them, like loving your neighbor, leading a moral life, Jen, Zakat, and ying-yang. These are just a few examples!

[see_the_light]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

There are things in Christianity I agree with whole-heartedly. There are things in Buddhism I agree with whole-heartedly. There are things in Confucianism I agree with whole-heartedly. There are things in a lot of religions I agree with.

Unfortunately for you there is ONE thing they all agree on (although only one is right about).... All the others are wrong.

Now untangle this one without snapping your backbone (if available)

PRAISE THE LORD!

[disgusting filthy dirty hippie (Quarantined)]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

There are things in Christianity I agree with whole-heartedly. There are things in Buddhism I agree with whole-heartedly. There are things in Confucianism I agree with whole-heartedly. There are things in a lot of religions I agree with.

But there are things in all of them I disagree with. Anything that lowers one human below another human I feel is just wrong. Everyone has the same rights as humans, and anything that violates those rights is evil, not by any one religion but by my moral and ethic values as a whole.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Pascifist Hippie

My dear friend, I am not "second-guessing" God!

I am "second-guessing" all of Christianity.

Please do tell us how your delusions of the real secret of God's heart is more accurate than everyone else's delusions of the real secret of God's heart, and how the Bible doesn't really count.