[see_the_light]

Re: saved trash

I may call them right now and apologize for the unkind things I've said to them and about them.

It's sad that it has taken just a taste of strict Bible to make you see how your parents spoiled you.

So I guess you are not solely to blame and can chit-chat with them when you are being spit-roasted in hell (don't assume you'll enjoy the spit).

As for your so-called security, may I remind you that if JESUS had truly saved you you would NEVER return to your gayehz abominations and least of all your denying of JESUS.

Matthew 10:33

But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.

Check your Bible, you snub JESUS and GOD slams your atheistic posterior in the burning pit.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: saved trash

Well whatever you choose to call it, millions of atheists are perfectly content with their own versions of "love" and "happiness." I'm not actually an atheist, because I think the idea of evolution is just absurd. I believe that something created us, I just don't believe that "something" is the god of Christianity. And I'm perfectly content with what I consider to be love and happiness.

That doesn't make any sense, dear. Who do you think created us, Transformers?

[Didymus Much]

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...I think the idea of evolution is just absurd. I believe that something created us...

Who (or what), when, and most importantly, WHY? Give your best answers to those, and then we'll cover the "absurdities" of evolution.

[fat old brat]

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Ok, once again, I don't believe the Bible, I don't believe in the doctrine of eternal security. I merely stated that every Baptist church I've ever personally known has believed in it, so I was surprised that people here don't seem to. I don't believe in hell, but, if it exists and the Bible is true, yes, I am most likely going there. And no, I'm not going to debate evolution on this forum.

[fat old brat]

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One can believe a Higher Power created us without having to believe in the God of the Bible. I have not yet decided exactly what I believe along those lines, but, in my opinion, the theory of reincarnation seems to make a lot of sense. There are many possibilities as to who/what that Higher Power could be, and it could very well be a group of beings. To be honest, I live my life as a good person, I believe I deserve reincarnation. The actual existence or nonexistence of a Higher Power really doesn't seem all that relevant to me personally.

[Alphonse Alban]

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in my opinion, the theory of reincarnation seems to make a lot of sense.

It sure does, thousands upon thousands of reincarnation believers who all have been Napoleon can't be wrong. Perhaps famous people just have more fractured souls

[see_the_light]

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One can believe a Higher Power created us without having to believe in the God of the Bible. I have not yet decided exactly what I believe along those lines, but, in my opinion, the theory of reincarnation seems to make a lot of sense. There are many possibilities as to who/what that Higher Power could be, and it could very well be a group of beings. To be honest, I live my life as a good person, I believe I deserve reincarnation. The actual existence or nonexistence of a Higher Power really doesn't seem all that relevant to me personally.

A good person? A gay heathen?!?!?

You deserve death and hellfire. And that's not my opinion, that is GOD's law (I've already quoted scripture about those that deny JESUS in this thread, and I guess you've seen enough of Leviticus to know that your abominable acts are what they are.)

PRAISE THE LORD!

p.s. reincarnation indeed, how about satan-claws and the ashtaroth-bunny? you're delving in satanic lies and seem to get a kick out of it. This is a Godly forum, refrain from spreading satan's words here please.

[fat old brat]

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Lol, well apparently a good person can be a gay heathen at the same time. And, yes, I can quote any Bible verses you want to throw at me. And, umm, I wasn't trying to convert anyone to reincarnationism, I was asked about my beliefs, and I merely answered the question.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

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Lol, well apparently a good person can be a gay heathen at the same time. And, yes, I can quote any Bible verses you want to throw at me. And, umm, I wasn't trying to convert anyone to reincarnationism, I was asked about my beliefs, and I merely answered the question.

You say that you can quote Scripture but you obviously don't understand what it means.



YIC

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: unsaved trash

One can believe a Higher Power created us without having to believe in the God of the Bible.

So what do you base your belief on?

I have not yet decided exactly what I believe along those lines, but, in my opinion, the theory of reincarnation seems to make a lot of sense.

Friend, the truth doesn't come by deciding what appeals most. You can't say, "I believe today ice will be warmer than tap water because it makes sense to me." Your belief, regardless of how sincere it may be, doesn't change the nature of water.

There are many possibilities as to who/what that Higher Power could be, and it could very well be a group of beings. To be honest, I live my life as a good person, I believe I deserve reincarnation. The actual existence or nonexistence of a Higher Power really doesn't seem all that relevant to me personally.

Why not Scientology? Why not paganism? Why not Zoroastrianism? Why would you shop for a religion like you'd shop for a mattress? Why not look for the Truth?

[Didymus Much]

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...I live my life as a good person, I believe I deserve reincarnation...

By your own standards, and you don't see the problem with basing a religion on that?

Plus, if someone can "deserve" reincarnation, then there has to be 1) a standard to be met, 2) some agent to act as judge, and 3) a jury (unless that function is combined with 2).

Any agent that would perform as judge or jury without informing the plaintiff/defendant of the standard to be met ahead of time would be acting in a sociopathic manner.

Your god is as evil/crazy as theirs.

[see_the_light]

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By your own standards, and you don't see the problem with basing a religion on that?

Plus, if someone can "deserve" reincarnation, then there has to be 1) a standard to be met, 2) some agent to act as judge, and 3) a jury (unless that function is combined with 2).

Any agent that would perform as judge or jury without informing the plaintiff/defendant of the standard to be met ahead of time would be acting in a sociopathic manner.

Your god is as evil/crazy as theirs.

That is why these people go to hell in a most fitting way.

On the one hand they KNOW there is GOD (even if they fancied one with different requirements for their behavior)

On the other hand your comment about "informing the plaintiff/defendant" falls short concerning GOD, the KJV states all there is to be known, and even atheistic scum accept that "ignorance of the law is no excuse".

So let them burn as it is fit.

PRAISE THE LORD!

[Didymus Much]

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...On the other hand your comment about "informing the plaintiff/defendant" falls short concerning GOD, the KJV states all there is to be known, and even atheistic scum accept that "ignorance of the law is no excuse".

So let them burn as it is fit...

We'll discuss this over a lobster dinner sometime? My treat.

[fat old brat]

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I do understand what the Bible says, I simply choose not to follow it. I base my standard on the Golden Rule, basically, "Do unto others as I would have them do unto me." I believe that the laws of karma are constant and unavoidable, and thus there would not need to be a judge or jury to decide the fate of each soul on a case-by-case basis. And every person has an inherent sense of right and wrong to guide him in making his life's decision, so that is basically all he needs to be a good person and achieve a favorable reincarnation. So whether or not a Higher Being created the earth and set these laws of karma in motion is largely irrelevant, because those laws currently exist independently of His/Her/Its/Their daily management.

[Morton Weinstein]

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By your own standards, and you don't see the problem with basing a religion on that?

Plus, if someone can "deserve" reincarnation, then there has to be 1) a standard to be met, 2) some agent to act as judge, and 3) a jury (unless that function is combined with 2).

Any agent that would perform as judge or jury without informing the plaintiff/defendant of the standard to be met ahead of time would be acting in a sociopathic manner.

Your god is as evil/crazy as theirs.

A God that loves and forgives and expects worship and praise and a complete surrender of one's will is not evil and/or crazy, Mr. Didymus Much, you atheistically disadvantaged descendant from apes. The God that brought me to the realization that God planned from the days of Adam and Eve his perfect method of salvation is a very wise and analytic God. Being wise and yet being evil is something you might attribute to Hitler - someone whose memory is not one I relish. But never would I attribute it to God, whose precious Son has become my Savior, my Messiah!
Hitler insisted on complete loyalty or what did he do? He exterminated you. Hitler insisted on a perfect race of people or what did he do? He exterminated anyone outside that race.
God insists on perfection (Be ye perfect, as I am perfect) but when God insists on it, He provides the means to achieve it. Did Hitler? No!
God insists on complete loyalty and promises HELL if we are not loyal to Him, but He does so because HIS SON DIED FOR US! I think that gives God a little more leeway in His perfect plan. Did HITLER give HIS ONLY SON to die for us? No!
God created this world several thousand years ago just so we could come to know Him and fellowship with Him. We chose (because He made us to choose this way) to have fruit salad when we could have chosen perfect union with Him, naked and unashamed - but now if I walk down the street naked, it is not permitted. God doesn't like that but it's what we deserve since we were naked and wanted to believe what a serpent said.
God isn't Hitler and the Lord will not be called evil. I would pray if I were you, Mr. Much. I would pray long, hard, and firmly that your petitions of forgiveness are heard and that your soul is cleansed by the BLOOD of our Lord Jesus Christ, my Messiah and Savior.

In HIM,
Morton