[3Inver9]

Re: Introductory thread! And serious Question!

The Bible makes it clear that whenever Satan does anything except talk, it's actually God doing it. Satan is just there to have someone to blame bad stuff (that God did) on.

Ever hear someone claim, "the Devil made me do it"? Well, they haven't read the Bible either. The Bible clearly states that when we think Satan is influencing us, it's just God in disguise:

2 Thessalonians 2:11 "And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"

And "Satan's agenda"? As if an omniscient, omnipotent God would allow something like that to exist.

It's all God's plan (even if it seems evil to us):

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

Proverbs 16:4 "The Lord hath made all things for himself: Yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

It's like God made a sock, and treats as well as I do mine.

So, it is gods plan for me to be what you think is evil. Why would a god that made me "evil" punish me for being "evil." This god would be a real jerk for punishing someone for making them the way they are. If I raised a kid and told it to kill kill kill everyday, I would be expecting it to kill. So why would I want to punish something for the way I made it. Seems like god has some serious issues and is blaming this satan for all of what is really gods demonic behavior.

[Didymus Much]

Re: Introductory thread! And serious Question!

So, it is gods plan for me...

My post was about Satan, not you (aside from your misunderstanding about Satan).

As for God's plan, which would have to encompass all of creation from time immemorial (6017 1/2ish years, now) until the End Times (which could start tomorrow, so get tithing if you want in on this "salvation" business ) + the Rapture + 1000 years +/and/or the Tribulation + Raising of the Dead + Boiling Seas Giving up Their Dead (poached, apparently ) + the Apocalypse + Judgement (NOT done by St. Peter at the Gates of Heaven after one's earthly death, another Catholic lie) note: exact timing, sequence, duration and even the existence of these events is largely conjecture built on flimsy premise, do you really think you could understand it?

Isaiah 55:9 "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are my ways higher than your ways, And my thoughts than your thoughts."

...to be what you think is evil...

Again, I expressed no personal views in my post, I only shared the contents of the Bile.

...This god would be a real jerk for punishing someone for making them the way they are...

The Bible says He made all of us the way we are.

Isaiah 44:24 "Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;"

Proverbs 16:4 "The Lord hath made all things for himself: Yea, even the wicked for the day of evil."

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

And not many are going to reach Heaven.

Matthew 7:14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

Straight from the horse's mouth, that is, this Guy:

...If I raised a kid and told it to kill kill kill everyday...

No one here is doing that.

The Bible says you rest on the Sabbath.

...I would be expecting it to kill. So why would I want to punish something for the way I made it. Seems like god has some serious issues and is blaming this satan for all of what is really gods demonic behavior.

What do I look like, God's therapist or something?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Introductory thread! And serious Question!

Why would a god that made me "evil" punish me for being "evil."

God is love (1 John 4:8), and He does such things to show His love for His elect:

[Romans 9:19-24 KJV] 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed [it], Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 [What] if God, willing to shew [his] wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, 24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Introductory thread! And serious Question!

So, it is gods plan for me to be what you think is evil. Why would a god that made me "evil" punish me for being "evil." This god would be a real jerk for punishing someone for making them the way they are. If I raised a kid and told it to kill kill kill everyday, I would be expecting it to kill. So why would I want to punish something for the way I made it. Seems like god has some serious issues and is blaming this satan for all of what is really gods demonic behavior.

God created you to fear and obey Him (Ecclesiastes 12:13). Being evil is your own choice. You have the means to change this choice: Confess your sins and accept Jesus as your Lord and Master (Romans 10:9), be made into a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17), one that doesn't offend God (Isaiah 64:6). You now know this because you've been learning about it. If you insist on maintaining your course to Hell, you'd be a fool.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Introductory thread! And serious Question!

What if I went to hell and I asked Satan for a pitchfork, tail, and horns, so I could come back to earth and possess these weak Christians. Satan would grant me what I want to further his agenda. If you take one peek out your window it is clear that Satan is winning, so why not join him. I would love to meet the Devil.

What are you talking about? Satan would grant you nothing. All you would feel is pitch fork up you bottom forever.

Why would anyone want that?

YIC