[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Yeah, I do.

Calling Jesus a liar shows that you don't understand the true nature of God.

Everything God (Jesus) says is by definition the truth. For example, if God would say that 1+1 equals 3, then it does. That we would not understand or comprehend that, changes nothing. God is simply always right.

Psalm 139:2-6 - King James Version (KJV)
2 Thou knowest my downsitting and mine uprising, thou understandest my thought afar off.
3 Thou compassest my path and my lying down, and art acquainted with all my ways.
4 For there is not a word in my tongue, but, lo, O Lord, thou knowest it altogether.
5 Thou hast beset me behind and before, and laid thine hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is high, I cannot attain unto it.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

You are asking GOD why He wrote what He wrote?! You are actually saying that He should play by YOUR rules?! You are suggesting that He would have the duty to follow YOUR logic? Why would he do that? An all-powerful being tells you what to do in a Book that is available in plain American and you question Him? If He is capricious or willing to provide loopholes, who are we to question or patronize Him!? Here at LBC we are HONEST. We admit that God can be illogical, wanton or violent from the human viewpoint AND that gives us even more reasons to revere and FEAR Him. Through fear emerges love and the potential to feel the conditional LOVE OF God.

He does not need to yield to your wishes.

Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

You put the finger right on the nose, Brother! It makes no sense from our Human Perspective, but that doesn't mean it's not Righteous and Just and Worthy of our Obedience!

The LORD knew that Humans would lack the capability to comprehend His Ways, and goes out of His Way to tell us:

For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are My ways higher than your ways And My thoughts than your thoughts.
Isaiah 55:9

The response to such a reality is not to complain and argue. One might as well yell against the wind.

The response is, like you say, Revere and Fear Him. It is our sole duty, after all!

Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter:
Fear God, and keep his commandments:
for this is the whole duty of man.
Ecclesiastes 12:13

[Elmer G. White]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Then WHY write "Thou shalt not kill." That's all he write. It's ultimate. All it says is "You shall not kill." But now you try to justify killing because apparently he also told you to. So he said "You shall not kill" (which ultimately means never, it is never specified that there are exceptions) and then said "You shall kill these people." You can't have either one. Just admit, the Bible is more full of loopholes than a time travel movie.

You are asking GOD why He wrote what He wrote?! You are actually saying that He should play by YOUR rules?! You are suggesting that He would have the duty to follow YOUR logic? Why would he do that? An all-powerful being tells you what to do in a Book that is available in plain American and you question Him? If He is capricious or willing to provide loopholes, who are we to question or patronize Him!? Here at LBC we are HONEST. We admit that God can be illogical, wanton or violent from the human viewpoint AND that gives us even more reasons to revere and FEAR Him. Through fear emerges love and the potential to feel the conditional LOVE OF God.

He does not need to yield to your wishes.

Exodus 3:14
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.


Yours in Christ,

Elmer

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

You're confused. God never said, "ever." He very clearly commands capital punishment for people who don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); witches (Exodus 22:17); homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13;Romans 1:24-32); fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27) kids who hit their dads (Exodus 21:15); kids who curse their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); adulterers (Leviticus 20:10); non-Christians (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); atheists (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); false prophets (Zechariah 13:3); the entire town of one who worships another god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); non-virgin brides (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); and blasphemers (Leviticus 24:10-16).

I hope that helps.

Then WHY write "Thou shalt not kill." That's all he write. It's ultimate. All it says is "You shall not kill." But now you try to justify killing because apparently he also told you to. So he said "You shall not kill" (which ultimately means never, it is never specified that there are exceptions) and then said "You shall kill these people." You can't have either one. Just admit, the Bible is more full of loopholes than a time travel movie.

[Mary Etheldreda]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Yeah, I do. If he writes the Commandments that simply say "Don't kill. Ever." and then goes and tells people to disobey them, then yes he's plain and simple, a liar. Also, potty language? What are you, seven years old?

You're confused. God never said, "ever." He very clearly commands capital punishment for people who don't listen to church authority (Deuteronomy 17:12); witches (Exodus 22:17); homosexuals (Leviticus 20:13;Romans 1:24-32); fortunetellers (Leviticus 20:27) kids who hit their dads (Exodus 21:15); kids who curse their parents (Proverbs 20:20; Leviticus 20:9); adulterers (Leviticus 20:10); non-Christians (Exodus 22:19; Deuteronomy 13:7-12; Deuteronomy 17:2-5;Romans 1:24-32); atheists (2 Chronicles 15:12-13); false prophets (Zechariah 13:3); the entire town of one who worships another god (Deuteronomy 13:13-19); non-virgin brides (Deuteronomy 22:20-21); and blasphemers (Leviticus 24:10-16).

I hope that helps.

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

This is simply not true. Jesus demands that His enemies are to be put to the sword: whole nations are destroyed in the Bible.

Or do you think Jesus is a liar?

YIC

Yeah, I do. If he writes the Commandments that simply say "Don't kill. Ever." and then goes and tells people to disobey them, then yes he's plain and simple, a liar. Also, potty language? What are you, seven years old?

[Basilissa]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

***potty language removed*** That's all the ***inappropriate words removed*** Commandment says. Don't kill. YOU DON'T KILL. PERIOD.

Why do you hate ?

Matthew 10:34. Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

Luke 19:27. But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

***potty language removed*** That's all the ***inappropriate words removed*** Commandment says. Don't kill. YOU DON'T KILL. PERIOD.

This is simply not true. Jesus demands that His enemies are to be put to the sword: whole nations are destroyed in the Bible.

Or do you think Jesus is a liar?

YIC

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Context, my dear, context. Some people should not be killed - but some others should.

Here is just a small selection - I will be glad provide more examples if you wish (I really enjoy being helpful):

Deuteronomy 7:2-3
2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

Deuteronomy 13:15
Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

Deuteronomy 20:13 And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

Deuteronomy 20:16-18
16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.

Numbers 31:17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

1 Samuel 15:3
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

***potty language removed*** That's all the ***inappropriate words removed*** Commandment says. Don't kill. YOU DON'T KILL. PERIOD.

[Basilissa]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13
Only one of the 10 commandments you people are supposed to obey.

Context, my dear, context. Some people should not be killed - but some others should.

Here is just a small selection - I will be glad provide more examples if you wish (I really enjoy being helpful):

Deuteronomy 7:2-3
2 And when the Lord thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor shew mercy unto them:
3 Neither shalt thou make marriages with them; thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son.

Deuteronomy 13:15
Thou shalt surely smite the inhabitants of that city with the edge of the sword, destroying it utterly, and all that is therein, and the cattle thereof, with the edge of the sword.

Deuteronomy 20:13 And when the Lord thy God hath delivered it into thine hands, thou shalt smite every male thereof with the edge of the sword:

Deuteronomy 20:16-18
16 But of the cities of these people, which the Lord thy God doth give thee for an inheritance, thou shalt save alive nothing that breatheth:
17 But thou shalt utterly destroy them; namely, the Hittites, and the Amorites, the Canaanites, and the Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites; as the Lord thy God hath commanded thee:
18 That they teach you not to do after all their abominations, which they have done unto their gods; so should ye sin against the Lord your God.

Numbers 31:17-18
17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.
18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

1 Samuel 15:3
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

[IJustWantSodomy]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Please, I'm begging you: show me in the Bible where killing people during a war is prohibited.

Even better...show me the laws of ANY COUNTRY ON EARTH where lawful killing during wartime is punishable by civilian or martial law.

You have 3 hours.

Thou shalt not kill. Exodus 20:13
Only one of the 10 commandments you people are supposed to obey.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

I'm so happy I dress appropriately so I don't get raped. I wouldn't want to harm an inncoent man!

You look like a naked hippie in your picture up there in the corner. Do you smell like one too? You'll never catch a Godly husband looking like that.

[Tinybrain]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

I'm so happy I dress appropriately so I don't get raped. I wouldn't want to harm an inncoent man!

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

Is it possible that, having been raped—although why anyone would put themselves in such a position is a whole bag of wriggling things alone—and having thereby induced the heart attack, she could marry someone else?

Obviously if she neglected to mention her "history" to the intending Husband she would be killed. But if he were agreeable..?

DEUTERONOMY 22
13-21 If any man take a wife, and go in unto her, and hate her, And give occasions of speech against her, and bring up an evil name upon her, and say, I took this woman, and when I came to her, I found her not a maid: Then shall the father of the damsel, and her mother, take and bring forth the tokens of the damsel's virginity unto the elders of the city in the gate: And the damsel's father shall say unto the elders, I gave my daughter unto this man to wife, and he hateth her; And, lo, he hath given occasions of speech against her, saying, I found not thy daughter a maid; and yet these are the tokens of my daughter's virginity. And they shall spread the cloth before the elders of the city. And the elders of that city shall take that man and chastise him; And they shall amerce him in an hundred shekels of silver, and give them unto the father of the damsel, because he hath brought up an evil name upon a virgin of Israel: and she shall be his wife; he may not put her away all his days. But if this thing be true, and the tokens of virginity be not found for the damsel: Then they shall bring out the damsel to the door of her father's house, and the men of her city shall stone her with stones that she die: because she hath wrought folly in Israel, to play the whore in her father's house: so shalt thou put evil away from among you.
KJV .. look up . context

[Jim Farmer]

Re: Only Sluts Get Raped! (1st Timothy 2:9)

I think Mr Old Man is wondering why the man might have died while he was raping her.