[AdamE135]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

Ah, you got me. Jesus doesn't want us to hate anyone. You win.

Oh, wait!

Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Dang those pesky facts.

Jesus is not teaching a new commandment of hating people. He is teaching about the cost of following Him.
The clue is in Luke 14:33 when Jesus says:

“In the same way, any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple.”

It’s about what we must be prepared to do to follow Jesus. It’s about giving up everything, even our very lives for Him. He doesn’t say, “by doing this you will get into heaven”. Jesus clearly teaches that through faith in Him we have eternal life (John 3:16). Through His death on the cross, we have the forgiveness of sins (Romans 6:23).

However, as His followers, are we willing to place Him in first position and place the most important people in our lives in second place?

Let’s paint the scene. In Luke 14:25, large crowds were travelling with Jesus because they had seen him healing people, feeding people and teaching people at no cost. Why not follow Jesus? You can get something for nothing. However, in this passage we see Jesus turn around to them that following him is not without cost - you have to place him before other important people in your lives. You even have to place him before yourselves.

To get his point across he uses very emotive and challenging language - you must hate everyone else. In so doing he is not saying that you do it literally but you must be prepared to put everything else second. So if your parent forbids you from following him then you must disobey them and so on.

[Dr Laurence Niles]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

I am not saying we should worship or serve sinners as you suggest. I am sorry to see you do not seem to understand the Bible references I have provided for you, I pray God grants you wisdom in that respect. I am saying we should love them as God commands and hope to share Gods word with them.

Don't you think we should love who God tells us to love (our brothers) and hate who God tells us to hate (murderers, liars and the gaywise)?

I'm proud to say that I follow God's own words, not my interpretation of them.

YIC

[Steve]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

I am not saying we should worship or serve sinners as you suggest. I am sorry to see you do not seem to understand the Bible references I have provided for you, I pray God grants you wisdom in that respect. I am saying we should love them as God commands and hope to share Gods word with them.

Ah, you got me. Jesus doesn't want us to hate anyone. You win.

Oh, wait!

Luke 14:26
If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

Dang those pesky facts.

[AdamE135]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

I see your Paul (Corinthians) and raise you God.

Exodus 20:4-5
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

I suggest you fold.

I am not saying we should worship or serve sinners as you suggest. I am sorry to see you do not seem to understand the Bible references I have provided for you, I pray God grants you wisdom in that respect. I am saying we should love them as God commands and hope to share Gods word with them.

[Steve]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

God is love, therefore he is not jealous. 1 Corinthians 13

God commands us to love everyone and share the word of God so that all might be saved, maybe you can take a closer look at the 2nd testament.

I see your Paul (Corinthians) and raise you God.

Exodus 20:4-5
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.
Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

I suggest you fold.

[AdamE135]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

You are not disagreeing with me, I did not write the scripture. You are disagreeing with word of God. Those things I just posted are from the bible. As you see, you ignore lot of the things in the bible. Why is that?
Plain and clear. People are tormented in the presense of Jesus. Is that love to you?
Same thing here. Jesus is laughing at people and mocking them. It's right there as you can see. It's not even the only thing. God commands us to destroy places of false-religion worship.

Lord is a jealous God, He does not tolerate people who does not follow His word.
If you ignore these things, you are doing sin. Just like Jesus teaches.

God is love, therefore he is not jealous. 1 Corinthians 13

God commands us to love everyone and share the word of God so that all might be saved, maybe you can take a closer look at the 2nd testament.

[Alphonse Alban]

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No, I disagree with you. I doubt Jesus laughs at people on earth suffering when he loves them.....

You are not disagreeing with me, I did not write the scripture. You are disagreeing with word of God. Those things I just posted are from the bible. As you see, you ignore lot of the things in the bible. Why is that?

Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

Plain and clear. People are tormented in the presense of Jesus. Is that love to you?

Psalm 2:3-5 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Same thing here. Jesus is laughing at people and mocking them. It's right there as you can see. It's not even the only thing. God commands us to destroy places of false-religion worship.

Deuteronomy 12:1-3


These are the statutes and judgments, which ye shall observe to do in the land, which the Lord God of thy fathers giveth thee to possess it, all the days that ye live upon the earth.
Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:
And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.

Lord is a jealous God, He does not tolerate people who does not follow His word.

Deuteronomy 6:15 (For the Lord thy God is a jealous God among you) lest the anger of the Lord thy God be kindled against thee, and destroy thee from off the face of the earth.

Exodus 20:4-6Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments

If you ignore these things, you are doing sin. Just like Jesus teaches.

Matthew 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

[Nobar King]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

You speak in a flithly manner about other people...that is sinful.

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God will be the judge of you, not I.

Make up your mind.

[AdamE135]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

I was talking about filthy heathes who puts themselves in hell as you said it. Show me part of scripture saying that talking like this about filthy heathens who put themselves in hell is a sin. Go on.



Yet, it is God who actively send hem hell and torment them. Everyone in the heaven are watching it with Jesus, laughing at these tormented heathens. So 99,99% of all people ever lived on this earth being tormented for all eternity in the in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of Jesus is an act of love.

Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

When Jesus laugh at these tormented people, is that laughter loving laughter as well?

Psalm 2:3-5 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

I have to say that you have very twisted view on love. Or perhaps God does not love those people. He does not punish them out of love.

No, I disagree with you. I doubt Jesus laughs at people on earth suffering when he loves them.....

God will be the judge of you, not I. If you think it is Godly to use derogatory names for people, then go right ahead. Your choices will determine whether you go to Hell. God bless

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

You speak in a flithly manner about other people...that is sinful.

I was talking about filthy heathes who puts themselves in hell as you said it. Show me part of scripture saying that talking like this about filthy heathens who put themselves in hell is a sin. Go on.

Heathens put themselves in hell when they make a choice not to accept and love God. God loves us and wants us to love and obey him, if we do not then we are sent to hell. It is by our actions we go to hell.

God loves us no matter what, he does not choose hell for us.

Yet, it is God who actively send hem hell and torment them. Everyone in the heaven are watching it with Jesus, laughing at these tormented heathens. So 99,99% of all people ever lived on this earth being tormented for all eternity in the in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of Jesus is an act of love.

Revelation 14:10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

When Jesus laugh at these tormented people, is that laughter loving laughter as well?

Psalm 2:3-5 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

I have to say that you have very twisted view on love. Or perhaps God does not love those people. He does not punish them out of love.

[AdamE135]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

Show me the scripture saying that I speak in ungodly way about the heathen. On the other matter, you keep dodging the question.

Does God throw in hell all these heathens out of love?

You speak in a flithly manner about other people...that is sinful.

Heathens put themselves in hell when they make a choice not to accept and love God. God loves us and wants us to love and obey him, if we do not then we are sent to hell. It is by our actions we go to hell.

God loves us no matter what, he does not choose hell for us.

[Alphonse Alban]

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You continue to speak in an UnGodly manner.

Show me the scripture saying that I speak in ungodly way about the heathen. On the other matter, you keep dodging the question.

Does God throw in hell all these heathens out of love?

[AdamE135]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

Are saying that God throws every single mudslime, joo, gaysexual, atheist and injun in hell to face eternal torment out of love?

You continue to speak in an UnGodly manner. I have made clear what the Bible says.
1) God loves everyone
2) if you do not accept Christs love and follow him you will not enter heaven

Im afraid I cannot be more clear on this, I pray God will give you guidance on the matter.

[Alphonse Alban]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

Yes I never disagreed with that. But God loves everyone..that was my point. Would you please stop referring to Muslims as Mudslimes, I find it to be Ungodly to speak in such a derogatory manner..Jesus would not have spoke like that.

Are saying that God throws every single mudslime, joo, gaysexual, atheist and injun in hell to face eternal torment out of love?

[AdamE135]

Re: 10 Reasons why GOD HATES IRELAND!

So you agree that God is right in throwing in hell every joo, mudslime, atheist and such if they do not accept God's infinite love and convert to Christianity.

Yes I never disagreed with that. But God loves everyone..that was my point. Would you please stop referring to Muslims as Mudslimes, I find it to be Ungodly to speak in such a derogatory manner..Jesus would not have spoke like that.