[Deaner]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

The world could be a 3 sided pyramid though. Hmmm

Aww for crying out loud. Can somebody start the cuckoo clocks?

[Nobar King]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

Welcome to our church forum, friend. You seem to care a lot about God and religion. Do you believe in Our Saviour Jesus Christ?

[HisMaster'sVoice]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

Well, gosh, I've often wondered why there are never any recessions in Europe, Canada, or Japan, and now you've cleared it up. Thanks so much.

If you've ever picked up a history book written since World War II, or better yet since 1990, you'll realize that capitalism does not eventually lead to communism. As for what Marx wrote, do you honestly expect us True Christians™ to believe something just because it's in an old book? By the way, I thought that people like you made a huge point of not paying any attention to dead white males.

Why not? You pay serious attention the literalness of the bible.

That's about as old a book as any.

[spongeboy]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

Well, gosh, I've often wondered why there are never any recessions in Europe, Canada, or Japan, and now you've cleared it up. Thanks so much.

If you've ever picked up a history book written since World War II, or better yet since 1990, you'll realize that capitalism does not eventually lead to communism. As for what Marx wrote, do you honestly expect us True Christians™ to believe something just because it's in an old book? By the way, I thought that people like you made a huge point of not paying any attention to dead white males.

I find your whole post very contradictory to your own beliefs.

And I was wondering if anybody has a picture that expresses the 4 corners of the world ,that contains all the continents + the northpole, so i may reassure myself that the world is in fact flat and had 4 corners.

I've stood on the magnetic north pole and flown over the geographic north pole. I'm pretty the north pole exists so don't try to riddle your way out of no north pole. The world could be a 3 sided pyramid though. Hmmm


Question on homosexuality: If it exists in nature was it created by God?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

Who is calling Canada Communist? Who? We have a mixed economy which lies somewhere between full blown capitalism and socialism. Any country wishing to have a healthy economy functions as such. Why? Because in an economy Free Capitalism eventually leads to a recession, like the one the U.S. is currently experiencing, and a Purely Socialist economy eventually goes stagnant from lack of competition. So a good economy utilizes the best features of both by sliding back and forth on the scale as the market dictates.

Well, gosh, I've often wondered why there are never any recessions in Europe, Canada, or Japan, and now you've cleared it up. Thanks so much.

Now, if you're a big supporter of Capitalism then you can't really, and I mean really, hate Communism all that much. If you've ever picked up a history book or maybe read some Communist literature, you might realize that Capitalism is actually listed by Marx (the father of Communism) as one of the biggest steps toward Communism. That is, that Capitalism eventually leads to Communism.

If you've ever picked up a history book written since World War II, or better yet since 1990, you'll realize that capitalism does not eventually lead to communism. As for what Marx wrote, do you honestly expect us True Christians™ to believe something just because it's in an old book? By the way, I thought that people like you made a huge point of not paying any attention to dead white males.

[Nobar King]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

Hey, you Canadians will get what you ask for:

Gay and Lesbian Immigration to Canada

Married or Not, Same-sex Families Find Equality in Canada

By Polina Skibinskaya, published May 01, 2006




On Wednesday, 20 July 2005, Canada became the fourth country in the world to officially recognize same-sex unions as equal to those of heterosexuals. The new law makes it possible for gay and lesbian couples to get married – but it also has other, far reaching implications, even for those couples who have no intention of getting hitched. Same-sex couples who are married, or who have simply been living together for at least 1 year, now have the same rights as straight couples when it comes to taxes, inheritance, hospital visitation rights – and, of course, immigration.

The road toward passing the same-sex marriage law has been long and difficult. The Conservative Party, backed by the evangelical Right, religious Jewish and Muslim organizations, a spattering of members from other parties, and the country’s southern neighbor, tried desperately, and sometimes comically, to stall other bills in Parliament, and even tried to bring down the government in May 2005 - all of this, in large part, to stop this progressive bill from even coming to a vote.

The party attempted to hijack other issues scheduled before the same-sex vote, playing dirty tricks worthy of the White House. The Conservatives attempted to hold hostage the new Federal Budget, which many consider to be the best budget in the last 30 years – but to the delight of much of the country’s population, the strategy backfired when the Liberals aligned with the New Democratic Party (NDP), the leftist “third party” of Canada, who proceeded to make the budget even more progressive. The NDP forced the Liberal government to erase from the bill a $4 billion tax cut for large corporations and hand the money over to affordable housing and education.
Meanwhile, Members of Parliament were flooded with admonitions, predictions of hellfire, and even threats – most of them sent by American citizens. Several Members of Parliament wondered publicly why they should listen to people from another country instead of their own electorate.

Despite all of our effort and all of the information available to them, the canucks passed this law.

Maybe one of you would like to tell us how your country is, now?

[AnotherCanuck]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

I haven't seen so many LIEbral lies, distortions, stupid assertions, and egregious displays of imbecility in one place in years. You can start your road to salvation by getting an education and opening up the Bible (KJV1611).

You might also want to read the following book before you start spouting off about economics and political economy:

"America's Great Depression" by Murray N. Rothbard

You don't even have to spend any money on it as it is available for free download (PDF) here:

http://www.mises.org/rothbard/agd/contents.asp

When you are done reading it, you may be able to come back and make some intelligent posts on the subject.

I'm afraid I can't see where the post you ridicule has lied. Perhaps you could calrify?

[WilliamJenningsBryan]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

Ahahahaha...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh lord, ooooh lordy lordy lord.

You know, I only read the first page and the last... and I'll admit, you aren't all completely full of shit.

But almost all of you are ignoramuses of horrifyingly extreme degrees.

Who is calling Canada Communist? Who? We have a mixed economy which lies somewhere between full blown capitalism and socialism. Any country wishing to have a healthy economy functions as such. Why? Because in an economy Free Capitalism eventually leads to a recession, like the one the U.S. is currently experiencing, and a Purely Socialist economy eventually goes stagnant from lack of competition. So a good economy utilizes the best features of both by sliding back and forth on the scale as the market dictates.

Now, if you're a big supporter of Capitalism then you can't really, and I mean really, hate Communism all that much. If you've ever picked up a history book or maybe read some Communist literature, you might realize that Capitalism is actually listed by Marx (the father of Communism) as one of the biggest steps toward Communism. That is, that Capitalism eventually leads to Communism.

So, if you're truly, and I mean truly, against Communism, then you must be against Capitalism as well. That's is true anti-communism.

But... then if Capitalism is out... and lord knows we can't use Communism... then whats left?

Well, there is the economy that goes with a Feudal system, that is that large pyramid with the King on the top and the Serfs on the bottom ( the vast majority of the populace). But, as we know, the Feudal System is a form of fascism, a dictatorship some might say.

Now, I'm sure its safe to say that a dictatorship is not very democratic, and being good home grown patriotic Americans I'm sure you all loved democracy (even though your democracy is not a true democracy, by true I mean democracy in its purest form.).

So in a sense, by hating socialism as totally and completely as you do, you basically end up supporting a fascist government.

Hmmm... that really sucks eh guys?

You know what else is funny? The Canadian economy is booming, I mean, not BOOMING, but its the highest its been for a long, long, loooong time. And by highest, I mean higher than the American dollar (which aint half bad).

You know, I find it strange that you boys and girls are starting to mix politics with religion... thats really not something you all should be concerned with. I mean, politics is sooo material, I mean SO material, in fact everything politics inflicts itself upon is material.

So, since you're all concerned with matters of the holy and the afterlife, shouldn't you leave politics to the heathens?

Thank you for possibly bothering to read my posts.

Cheers.

I haven't seen so many LIEbral lies, distortions, stupid assertions, and egregious displays of imbecility in one place in years. You can start your road to salvation by getting an education and opening up the Bible (KJV1611).

You might also want to read the following book before you start spouting off about economics and political economy:

"America's Great Depression" by Murray N. Rothbard

You don't even have to spend any money on it as it is available for free download (PDF) here:

http://www.mises.org/rothbard/agd/contents.asp

When you are done reading it, you may be able to come back and make some intelligent posts on the subject.

[Wide-Open]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

Whoa friends, so many questions and words, makes my head spin. I'll just pick on a few things that actually didn't make me go "dur"

I sure am glad I saw a link to this thread on another website, as I'm a big fan of intellectual, well-reasoned debates.

Then you have come to the right place!

If America really is the chosen land, why is there so much crime and poverty?

Because there are a lot of jiggaboos and messicans running around who are too lazy to work and just go on stealing pies and whatnot (when they are not drugged up or raping our women).

If homosexuality is so wrong, why do so many that work for "God" (priests etc.) rape young boys?

You have us mixed up with papists friend. We are BAPTISTS, not catlick child buggerers.

Does it bother you people that the earth is round and isn't the center of the universe?

Now you are starting to joke. Of course the earth is not round. You can read our excellent discussion about that here.

On the note of God and Satan.

If Satan were truly to exist, would he not exist as a minion of the divine?

Friend, have you ever read the Bible? (KJV 1611 only) Do you know the story of Job?

Read it, and then come back to anwer your own question.

[HisMaster'sVoice]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

On the note of God and Satan.

If Satan were truly to exist, would he not exist as a minion of the divine?

I say this because if Satan, in his Stygian wrath, were the source of all evil in this world and diametrically opposed to God and all good, and in response Heaven was opposed to Satan and all Evil.... then why would God, as an all powerful being, allow Satan to exist?

Why would God allow a being that wishes only to destroy his faithful to exist and tempt them away from the righteous path?

If you say these are trails to test our faith, then doesn't that mean Satan is working for God?

I would LOVE , seriously, to hear some response to this as it is actually something I wonder about.

And please, for your own sakes, don't boil everything I say down to "I'm just the devil's mouthpiece trying to lead you all astray". I'm a legitimate heathen (in your eyes) looking for some truth in this religion you claim to be the highest of high.

Re: Why God Hates Canada

I sure am glad I saw a link to this thread on another website, as I'm a big fan of intellectual, well-reasoned debates.

Quick question, which of these areas has a colder average temperature: British Columbia, Alberta, Ontario, Nova Scotia, or Alaska? Seeings as Alaskan oil is about the only thing keeping you guys down south from going completely up $hit creek, maybe areas that are "frozen wastelands" aren't such bad places after all.

If America really is the chosen land, why is there so much crime and poverty? Wouldn't some sort of supreme being step in and lend a hand to those that can't afford shelter, clothing, food, transportation, and all other neccesities to survival? And don't tell me that all crime is committed by godless heathens, because I'm sure there's more than a few god-fearing criminals out there.

If homosexuality is so wrong, why do so many that work for "God" (priests etc.) rape young boys? Does it not count as gay if the victim is a child? And why have so many well known church leaders been exposed in gay prostitution rings?

Does it bother you people that the earth is round and isn't the center of the universe?

And when you say that "everyone knows that god exists", you realize that that's complete BS? I bet most people agree that god exists as a concept or an idea, but can I physically touch god? Can I talk to him and get a clearly audible response? I can't prove he isn't there, but until I see some signs that he is an actual physical being, I'll go on thinking that he is just a fictional character like the tooth fairy. And when you say that if you are not for god, you are for Satan, isn't that a bit of a stretch? I don't believe in god, but I also don't believe in hell or satan, because again, there never has been and never will be any definitive proof that any of these beings or places exist. If someone were to go up to the pearly gates and videotape heaven and show me proof that it exists, or if you can get god and jesus to go and do some live TV interviews, maybe then I'll change my mind.

[HisMaster'sVoice]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

Ahahahaha...

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Oh lord, ooooh lordy lordy lord.

You know, I only read the first page and the last... and I'll admit, you aren't all completely full of shit.

But almost all of you are ignoramuses of horrifyingly extreme degrees.

Who is calling Canada Communist? Who? We have a mixed economy which lies somewhere between full blown capitalism and socialism. Any country wishing to have a healthy economy functions as such. Why? Because in an economy Free Capitalism eventually leads to a recession, like the one the U.S. is currently experiencing, and a Purely Socialist economy eventually goes stagnant from lack of competition. So a good economy utilizes the best features of both by sliding back and forth on the scale as the market dictates.

Now, if you're a big supporter of Capitalism then you can't really, and I mean really, hate Communism all that much. If you've ever picked up a history book or maybe read some Communist literature, you might realize that Capitalism is actually listed by Marx (the father of Communism) as one of the biggest steps toward Communism. That is, that Capitalism eventually leads to Communism.

So, if you're truly, and I mean truly, against Communism, then you must be against Capitalism as well. That's is true anti-communism.

But... then if Capitalism is out... and lord knows we can't use Communism... then whats left?

Well, there is the economy that goes with a Feudal system, that is that large pyramid with the King on the top and the Serfs on the bottom ( the vast majority of the populace). But, as we know, the Feudal System is a form of fascism, a dictatorship some might say.

Now, I'm sure its safe to say that a dictatorship is not very democratic, and being good home grown patriotic Americans I'm sure you all loved democracy (even though your democracy is not a true democracy, by true I mean democracy in its purest form.).

So in a sense, by hating socialism as totally and completely as you do, you basically end up supporting a fascist government.

Hmmm... that really sucks eh guys?

You know what else is funny? The Canadian economy is booming, I mean, not BOOMING, but its the highest its been for a long, long, loooong time. And by highest, I mean higher than the American dollar (which aint half bad).

You know, I find it strange that you boys and girls are starting to mix politics with religion... thats really not something you all should be concerned with. I mean, politics is sooo material, I mean SO material, in fact everything politics inflicts itself upon is material.

So, since you're all concerned with matters of the holy and the afterlife, shouldn't you leave politics to the heathens?

Thank you for possibly bothering to read my posts.

Cheers.

[Nobar King]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

The commies up north in Canuckistan are taking away people's home heaters so they freeze to death in the winter. That's how they refer to socialized medicine:

Stove stokes smouldering rift between neighbouring families
March 25, 2008

For years the Scotts and Pikes were friendly neighbours, frequently helping each other out at their homes near Uxbridge, Ont.

But that all ended two years ago when the Pikes spent $13,400 on an outdoor wood-fired boiler to heat their home and garage.

The Scotts immediately complained about smoke from the boiler and eventually sued, alleging the pollution was damaging their health. They demanded the Pikes remove the boiler and they sought roughly $200,000 in damages. "This is the last thing we wanted to do," Robert Scott said from his home.

The Pikes were stunned and insisted in court filings that they had done all they could to modify the boiler to keep the smoke down. They pointed out that no one else had complained and that neighbours on the other side, the Kerrigans, even paid to have their house connected to the boiler. "They are kind of killing a fly with a sledgehammer," Iain Pike said from his home, referring to the Scotts. "We've got two young kids here. We've never smelled smoke in our house. The other neighbour has never smelled smoke in his house."

Last week, an Ontario judge sided with the Scotts for now and issued a temporary injunction ordering the Pikes to shut down their boiler pending the outcome of the lawsuit. There is evidence "of a real risk of harm and/or actual continuing harm to the [Scotts'] health as well as other aspects of loss of use and enjoyment of their home and yard," Mr. Justice Fred Graham of the Ontario Superior Court said in his ruling. The circumstances of the case, he added, "warrant taking the drastic and extraordinary step" of issuing the injunction.

The lawsuit is believed to be the first in Canada to tackle growing concerns about the health effects of smoke from wood-burning stoves. With oil prices soaring, wood has become a popular heating alternative for many Canadians. More than three million people use wood for all or part of their heating needs, according to Environment Canada. Outdoor wood-fired boilers - essentially wood-fuelled furnaces housed in insulated sheds - have become particularly popular in rural areas. The number of boilers sold in the United States jumped from 195 in 1990 to 67,546 in 2005, according to the latest available figures. Comparable figures are not available for Canada, but there are an estimated 48,700 wood-fired boilers across the country.

Mr. Pike said he chose the boiler because he wanted to do something good for the environment and get rid of the dangerous wood stoves in his home and garage. The boiler is located in his backyard and it cycles hot water to the house and garage through a series of underground pipes. The pipes are connected to the Pikes' home furnace, which circulates the warm air. Since installing the boiler, Mr. Pike has cut his annual heating bill by more than two-thirds.

But several agencies, regulators and governments in the U.S. and Canada have raised concerns about smoke from the boilers. Tough regulations have also been put in place in several communities on both sides of the border. "While all wood smoke is harmful, outdoor wood boilers are particularly dangerous, and generate eight to 10 times more pollution than indoor wood stoves and hundreds to thousands times more particulate matter than oil and gas appliances," said Dr. Menn Biagtan, of the British Columbia Lung Association.

As part of his lawsuit, Mr. Scott cited studies by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency and a group of state governments. The study for the states concluded that one boiler emitted as much fine particulate matter as four heavy-duty diesel trucks.

Mr. Scott alleged in court filings that smoke from the Pikes' boiler got so bad the family could barely go outside and began suffering shortness of breath, headaches as well as eye, sinus and throat irritations.

The boiler industry has shot back with studies showing boilers are no more harmful than other wood stoves. The industry also points out that modern boilers are more efficient and meet environmental standards.

Mr. Pike said he knows about a dozen people who have boilers and they have not received complaints from neighbours. "I kind of think it's a lot of people making a big issue out of nothing," he said. Mr. Pike said he doesn't have much to do with his neighbour any more and he called the lawsuit a "gigantic pain in the butt."

When asked about his relationship with the Pikes, Mr. Scott laughed and said: "You don't have to ask me that really, do you? It's just as you imagine it would be. We had a good relationship beforehand, we helped each other out, but obviously that's changed."

Oh, those friendly Canadians. Always suing their neighbors and complaining about a little wood smoke. Don't they know that it's good for you? Chopping wood keeps little boys from playing with dolls.

[Nobar King]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

This thread has been very informative, Huey, and we have needed a thread like this for a long time.

The godless socialists up north have upped the ante and are leaning towards democratic totalitarinism now:

Regina man charged with hate crime

Published: Thursday, January 24, 2008

Police have charged a former university lecturer with wilfully promoting hatred after receiving a complaint about neo-Nazi and racist comments he allegedly posted online. Police charge that between Feb. 1, 2004, and Nov. 1, 2007, Terrence Cecil Tremaine, 59, posted Internet messages that are hateful against an identifiable group.

Tremaine's house was raided by Regina police in June 2007. Police seized a computer, CDs, DVDs, software and books - including a copy of Mein Kampf - belonging to Tremaine.

The then-University of Saskatchewan math lecturer has been associated with the so-called National-Socialist Party of Canada, which uses the Nazi swastika and images of Adolf Hitler to promote itself.

A website he's been linked with claims it is being "attacked" by the B'nai Brith, the Canadian Jewish Congress and the Simon Weisenthal Centre.

Tremaine was previously the subject of a complaint filed to the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal by Richard Warman, an Ottawa lawyer.

That complaint documented Internet postings under the moniker "mathdoktor99" calling Jews a "parasitic race," saying "blacks are intellectually inferior to whites" and "Hitler was a lot nicer to the Jews than they deserved."

In early 2007, the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal ruled Tremaine had violated the Canadian Human Rights Act. "Having looked at these messages in context, I have no doubt that they are likely to expose persons of Jewish faith, Blacks and other non-white minorities to hatred or contempt," wrote Michel Doucet on behalf of the tribunal.

"These messages convey extreme ill-will to the point of violence towards the targeted groups." The tribunal ordered Tremaine to cease and desist such postings and pay a $4,000 penalty. The tribunal's ruling said Tremaine had been working as a part-time lecturer at the University of Saskatchewan in the mathematics department. After the university's human resources division investigated Tremaine's Internet postings, he was dismissed in 2005.

Tremaine then moved to B.C., but returned to Saskatchewan and admitted himself to a psychiatric institution in the Regina area to be treated for depression. While there, he wrote a letter to the Canadian Human Rights Commission, blaming his online postings on his mental health issues.

His letter stated he "became delusional and began imagining grand conspiracy theories behind world events. Part of my delusional thinking was the notion of a 'Jewish world conspiracy.'

"I emphasize that this was delusional thinking for which I am profoundly ashamed and guilt ridden. Words cannot describe the depth of my shame. I am tormented by it daily. I despise and detest everything I wrote. . . . The commission need have no concern about any future activity on my part," he wrote.

"Prior to March 2001, I was a normal decent person without any racist or intolerant attitudes. In 2001, I underwent a destructive personality change that I can now only describe as sick and deranged."

During his human rights tribunal hearing, however, Tremaine recanted the letter and said he stood by everything he wrote online.

He will appear in court this morning.

The Canadian Jewish Congress applauded Tremaine's arrest Thursday, saying the website where he posted his statements "contained the vilest statements directed against members of the Jewish community."

"Jews are described in terms that might have been lifted directly from Nazi-era propaganda papers like Der Sturmer. Surely Canada's laws were meant to address this form of contemptible hatred," said congress co-president Rabbi Reuven Bulka.

"Tremaine does not shy away from even the most perverse elements of Jewish conspiracy theory. Jews are condemned as responsible for virtually all the ills that have beset the world in the last 200 years, from the founding of communism to the terrorist attack against the United States on Sept. 11, 2001," said congress co-president Sylvain Abitbol.

This reminds me of 1984, where people are forced to say things they don't believe in order to cover up their true feelings.

[Brother Temperance]

Re: Why God Hates Canada

I've never done a drug in my life and BC was founded in 1843. before Columbia had a reputation for using cocaine as a drug.

Um, you do know that the savage injuns of South America were using cocaine before Godly white people even found their wasteland of a continent, don't you?

Why are we discussing the socio-political history of the main export product of a 3rd world nation?

Because he's a FARCing Communist!

plus not all muslims are terrorists, i have muslim friends

Yet more proof that you hate America, Stuey Newton.

And you have the nerve to call my country a frozen wasteland?
look at this

http://www.outdoorandphoto.com/Trips/Banff01/BestShot-Banff/Banff-PeytoLake.JPG

You named a lake after Peyote?