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  • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

    What would Jesus do? Would he disrespect other people based of where they live? Both Estonians and Americans.. you let your egos get in the way. And the ego tends to cling to identity and for you, you tie it up with your nationality, so you are a nazi. If you believe in your country, in your flag, in your anthem, you are a natsionalist. ''Nationalism is a belief, creed or political ideology that involves an individual identifying with, or becoming attached to, one's nation.'' That goes both to people from Estonia and people from America.

    That is why we see Estonians coming here and defending Estonia's honour, as if they feel they have been attacked. The ideology of Estonia is a part of their identity, and they feel that THEY are being under attack. But you Americans, are you any better? You have the exact same conditioning, and you make exactly same action pattern. You are no better.

    If you would not tie yourself up with language, nationality, age, name, race etc. you should see the unity, instead of that what makes us different.

    For you Christians i would like to say, God is not outside, only the illusion is on the outside. So with Satan, it's in you, or could i say, it's you? You see, the ego is afraid of death, and so, when it feels it is being attacked, it counter-attacks. And as it was said, he who blames his brothers, hey, thats you . For the ego creates an outside ( illusory ) Satan, who it searches, who it blames for all that is wrong.. everyone does that, everyone sees the splinter .. Sooo..All this search to blame the illuminati, bankers, the rich, the goverments etc. is egos way to roll the blame off itself. You see, the Devil is wicked smart, it sits where is the last hill you would search, in you. The Beast within. And is it not said that Christ came on earth to show that death can be overcome? And does not the bible speak of many deaths, and that after you die ( beast within ) you will be granted forever with Christ ?

    So,if we would analyze the account of sexuality, if you see it as a problem, you see not that the problem is inside you that you project outside . Why cannot you accept a fellow man as Jesus would? Because your wicked ways. You blame, you blame, you blame, you blame, you blame.. You are programmed to think that way, but theres only one true savion who can save you, and that's you. Jesus does not save, Jesus guides. It is up to you to either follow the path or just to think that you are following it.

    Aaah, we are accually all one.

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    • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

      Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
      Friend, we all know what his user name means. From what I have learned, it is a common name for false Christians in your country.
      Is he a close relation of yours?
      Truth be told, all you people have been 'out of the clost' for years and we are not shocked. Instead, we are saddened you choose the Homerfaqualistic lifestyle over one devoted to Jesus.

      You can change, just open your eyes.
      Can I get a straightforward and a reasonable answer from you? Why those stereotypes again? Would you like me to give you the same treatment you give us?

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      • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

        Originally posted by Halley View Post
        But we did tried to turn the other cheek and stay calm and talk NICELY, CALMLY and rationally with you. At start I simply pointed out what I think about your violent usages of words without a violent tone myself.
        Read the first sentences of your first post on this forum again. The very first thing you said when you came here was not nice, it was not calm, it was not rational. It was racism. It was evil. It was loud. It was shrill. It was typical Estonian.
        Originally posted by Halley View Post
        Is this topic for real? I mean, are you people honestly saying this stuff here FOR REAL? I know that Americans are not the most brilliant-minded people in World but this is just plain... idiotic.
        ^^ That was your thanks for us welcoming you into our home.

        Originally posted by Halley View Post
        You then attacked me again by ripping my sentences out of context,
        I did not rip your sentence out of context. You even admitted that after I showed you a colorful picture. Why do you revisit your lies again?
        Originally posted by Halley View Post
        my minor and humble stereotypical use
        ^^ Your admission of guilt.

        Originally posted by Halley View Post
        insulting me again that I do not understand written text etc. It's no use to talk rationally with you, I now understand, so yeah, f**k turning the other cheek. You started this verbal war. I have the same rights as you now to be as impolite as you.
        You really don't understand written text. Jesus told you to turn the other cheek. What do you do? You fight back. That's not a different opinion or thinking differently, that's going directly against what Jesus said. Either you do not understand Him or you are evil. Which is it?

        And where did you get the idea you have rights here? Read the agreement you accepted when you registered here again. Only God has rights here.
        Leviticus 26:15-16
        And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

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        • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

          Originally posted by Yahushua View Post
          What would Jesus do? Would he disrespect other people based of where they live? Both Estonians and Americans.. you let your egos get in the way. And the ego tends to cling to identity and for you, you tie it up with your nationality, so you are a nazi. If you believe in your country, in your flag, in your anthem, you are a natsionalist. ''Nationalism is a belief, creed or political ideology that involves an individual identifying with, or becoming attached to, one's nation.'' That goes both to people from Estonia and people from America.

          That is why we see Estonians coming here and defending Estonia's honour, as if they feel they have been attacked. The ideology of Estonia is a part of their identity, and they feel that THEY are being under attack. But you Americans, are you any better? You have the exact same conditioning, and you make exactly same action pattern. You are no better.

          If you would not tie yourself up with language, nationality, age, name, race etc. you should see the unity, instead of that what makes us different.

          For you Christians i would like to say, God is not outside, only the illusion is on the outside. So with Satan, it's in you, or could i say, it's you? You see, the ego is afraid of death, and so, when it feels it is being attacked, it counter-attacks. And as it was said, he who blames his brothers, hey, thats you . For the ego creates an outside ( illusory ) Satan, who it searches, who it blames for all that is wrong.. everyone does that, everyone sees the splinter .. Sooo..All this search to blame the illuminati, bankers, the rich, the goverments etc. is egos way to roll the blame off itself. You see, the Devil is wicked smart, it sits where is the last hill you would search, in you. The Beast within. And is it not said that Christ came on earth to show that death can be overcome? And does not the bible speak of many deaths, and that after you die ( beast within ) you will be granted forever with Christ ?

          So,if we would analyze the account of sexuality, if you see it as a problem, you see not that the problem is inside you that you project outside . Why cannot you accept a fellow man as Jesus would? Because your wicked ways. You blame, you blame, you blame, you blame, you blame.. You are programmed to think that way, but theres only one true savion who can save you, and that's you. Jesus does not save, Jesus guides. It is up to you to either follow the path or just to think that you are following it.

          Aaah, we are accually all one.
          I can hear the thunder of angry mob rolling closer...

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          • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

            Originally posted by Halley View Post
            Can I get a straightforward and a reasonable answer from you? Why those stereotypes again? Would you like me to give you the same treatment you give us?
            What, are you inferring I do not understand his username? Then you are offended that I do and furthermore, understand why he used it? Then are more upset because he has the same last name as you?

            I do not get you friend, we are damned if we do, damned if we do not. You people are like nigras in a chicken coop. Never satisfied, even when they get extra watermelon.
            Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
            Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
            Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
            Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
            Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
            Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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            • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

              Originally posted by A Follower View Post
              Read the first sentences of your first post on this forum again. The very first thing you said when you came here was not nice, it was not calm, it was not rational. It was racism. It was evil. It was loud. It was shrill. It was typical Estonian.
              ^^ That was your thanks for us welcoming you into our home.

              I did not rip your sentence out of context. You even admitted that after I showed you a colorful picture. Why do you revisit your lies again?


              ^^ Your admission of guilt.



              You really don't understand written text. Jesus told you to turn the other cheek. What do you do? You fight back. That's not a different opinion or thinking differently, that's going directly against what Jesus said. Either you do not understand Him or you are evil. Which is it?
              You are doing a good job by finding my quotes and things. Yes, my first sentence was quite angry. Wouldn't you be angry to read 6-7 pages full of racism and hate towards your country and nationality? So, a point for me to actually accept one thing that I am being accused of, fairly.

              What came after? I tried to explain my ways of understanding God and how I WAS TAUGHT when I first went to the church, when I was handed a bible... I asked questions and tried to be reasonable with you. Without any hard words. And you still attacked me, even though I showed you the respect of actually concidering a chance to actually fall into a deep and open-minded discussion between two grown-up adults. You basically shouted me out, saying I am wrong... I am trying to make you see, plain simple, that I want to have a normal conversation where both parts can say what THEY think and have an oppinion towars other person's point of views that do not include an attitude that say only he is right and the other isn't.

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              • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                Originally posted by Halley View Post
                You are doing a good job by finding my quotes and things. Yes, my first sentence was quite angry. Wouldn't you be angry to read 6-7 pages full of racism and hate towards your country and nationality? So, a point for me to actually accept one thing that I am being accused of, fairly.

                <<< A lot of blather >>>.
                Friend, you are all upset over facts. You cannot change facts any more than you can change Gods Word.

                What you can do is change.
                You can stop supporting a communist third world country. You can stop turning your back on Jesus.
                You can immigrate to the USA, become a Republican and work in a factory or in someones stable. You can follow Jesus unwaveringly.

                Remember, Yes you Can!
                Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                  Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                  What, are you inferring I do not understand his username? Then you are offended that I do and furthermore, understand why he used it? Then are more upset because he has the same last name as you?

                  I do not get you friend, we are damned if we do, damned if we do not. You people are like nigras in a chicken coop. Never satisfied, even when they get extra watermelon.
                  You blabbered something about abortions. Facts please? And DO NOT say Bible or "others told me that". I want to get facts with statistics, links etc.

                  Oh, and btw, I highlighted a part from your answer. That's racism with stereotypes

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                  • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                    Originally posted by randomname View Post
                    You claim that Estonians (which includes me) have been "screaming racist epithets and insulting". Please provide me with a quote where i have been "screaming racist epithets and insulting".


                    And finally a question. Have you read the book "Hyperion" that is written by Dan Simmons? If not then by following the logic in your own example i can assume that you don't understand written text.

                    Also, lets assume for a moment that you are correct about the ability of Estonians to understand written text. Then how do you propose we registered here and how can we possibly respond to anything you say?
                    I have already quoted several of your fellow Estonians racist epithets, unlike what Halley does, my language is clear in meaning. I refer most of all Estonians who misbehave, unlike she and some others do, who specifically accuse me of saying things I have never said.

                    And yes, I have read Hyperion, obviously a book inspired by God. Only God could make a writer like Dan Simmons write about God like he did:
                    Originally posted by Dan Simmons in Hyperion
                    “Marvelous,” Paul Duré had whispered, more to himself than to his young companion. “Marvelous. It is at times like this that I have the sense…the slightest sense…of what a sacrifice it must have been for the Son of God to condescend to become the Son of Man.
                    That's God reminding people they should get their heads out of those make-believe fantasy tales and return to the facts of the Bible.

                    As to your registering here and misunderstanding the purpose of this topic, sharing with fellow Christians what you know about Estonians and how they are evil, I think the responses from all Estonians make clear that they aren't following that logic.
                    Leviticus 26:15-16
                    And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

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                    • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                      Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                      Friend, you are all upset over facts. You cannot change facts any more than you can change Gods Word.

                      What you can do is change.
                      You can stop supporting a communist third world country. You can stop turning your back on Jesus.
                      You can immigrate to the USA, become a Republican and work in a factory or in someones stable. You can follow Jesus unwaveringly.

                      Remember, Yes you Can!
                      Are you being serious?

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                      • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                        Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                        You can change, just open your eyes.
                        But the thing is that i do not want to change into someone who thinks like you seem to think:

                        Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                        I can only imagine all these peasants, lining up at the 'estonia national computer', each vying for their shot at decency while their toothless mothers pedal the bicycle making electricity.

                        While I understand how depressing it must be knowing they exist in a bottom tier third world country, they can take solace in the fact that not all of them are nigras.
                        Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                        You people are like nigras in a chicken coop. Never satisfied, even when they get extra watermelon.
                        I don't want to be that rude to another person, nation, country or race.

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                        • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                          Originally posted by James Hutchins View Post
                          Friend, you are all upset over facts. You cannot change facts any more than you can change Gods Word.

                          What you can do is change.
                          You can stop supporting a communist third world country. You can stop turning your back on Jesus.
                          You can immigrate to the USA, become a Republican and work in a factory or in someones stable. You can follow Jesus unwaveringly.

                          Remember, Yes you Can!
                          Again, misuse of a word of "fact". Let me help you out there, little one.

                          A fact is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is whether it can be proven to correspond to experience.

                          It is not a proof if your neighbor/someone from across the street/a person from a forum says it and you believe it. Then you just believe something that is called gossip.

                          Have you been in one of those countries and experienced things that have been brought out in this forum?

                          Do you have any articles, books or papers that actually shot a statistic, a certain pattern of those things actually happening?


                          This forum does not include facts (or only a rare few ones), only gossip...

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                          • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                            Originally posted by Yahushua View Post
                            What would Jesus do? Would he disrespect other people based of where they live? Both Estonians and Americans.. you let your egos get in the way. And the ego tends to cling to identity and for you, you tie it up with your nationality, so you are a nazi. If you believe in your country, in your flag, in your anthem, you are a natsionalist. ''Nationalism is a belief, creed or political ideology that involves an individual identifying with, or becoming attached to, one's nation.'' That goes both to people from Estonia and people from America.

                            That is why we see Estonians coming here and defending Estonia's honour, as if they feel they have been attacked. The ideology of Estonia is a part of their identity, and they feel that THEY are being under attack. But you Americans, are you any better? You have the exact same conditioning, and you make exactly same action pattern. You are no better.
                            When there is no good side of your country to defend, then why even try to defend your country?

                            We are not nazis (nationalistic socialists). We are not nationalistic and we hate socialism. We aren't commies like you ruskies. And you cannot even imagine how much I hate Obama or the gays of San Fransisco or the gangbangers of Harlem. I have not heard a single one of you denouncing your presidents, so obviously we are not the same. That pulls the rug from under your argument quite effectively.

                            I assume the rest of your rant is equally baseless and full of hatred, so I will not even bother to read it, much less respond to it.
                            Leviticus 26:15-16
                            And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

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                            • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                              Originally posted by Halley View Post
                              You blabbered something about abortions. Facts please? And DO NOT say Bible or "others told me that". I want to get facts with statistics, links etc.

                              Oh, and btw, I highlighted a part from your answer. That's racism with stereotypes
                              No friend, I made no mention about how you people kill your young. To me, that is just too cruel to mention on a family oriented forum. Nice of you to dwell on baby murder. Real nice.

                              See, we are well read and fully understand how you people lie. It is common among the lesser races.
                              Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
                              Amos 3:6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?
                              Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.
                              Matthew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
                              Matthew 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
                              Matthew 10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

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                              • Re: 7 reasons why God hates Estonia

                                Originally posted by Halley View Post
                                You blabbered something about abortions. Facts please? And DO NOT say Bible or "others told me that". I want to get facts with statistics, links etc.

                                Oh, and btw, I highlighted a part from your answer. That's racism with stereotypes
                                Not all nigras are in a chicken coop, you racist. If you'd actually have some different ethnicities in your country you might know that there also plenty of porch monkeys. They are even known to hang around basketball courts. And prison of course.
                                Leviticus 26:15-16
                                And if ye shall despise my statutes, or if your soul abhor my judgments, so that ye will not do all my commandments, but that ye break my covenant: I also will do this unto you; I will even appoint over you terror, consumption, and the burning ague, that shall consume the eyes, and cause sorrow of heart: and ye shall sow your seed in vain, for your enemies shall eat it.

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