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  • Rev. Jim Osborne
    True Christian™ Televangelist
    Director of Fundraising and Tithing
    On the Look Out for Wife #6!
    True Christian™
    • Jun 2009
    • 8622

    #1

    Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

    'Wife' School - Would You Send Your Daughter?

    Here we have a perfectly respectable summer camp aimed at teaching preteen girls to the virtues of a woman's place in the home. Not surprisingly, a liberal sociologist thinks it's "sexist" and that good Christian wives are actually "miserable".

    by Bethany Sanders Jun 19th 2009 6:00PM

    Categories: Teens & tweens, In the news



    Make Over Camp for your little Betty Draper.


    We have a handful of etiquette-related rules at our house, like these, for example:
    • No feet where you eat.
    • Say please and thank you.
    • When someone gives you a gift, send a thank-you card.
    • Be the kind of guest who gets invited back.

    We also have a couple that I never thought -- pre-parenthood -- I'd ever have to say out loud, like the most recent: We wear underwear every day.

    As parents, we created these rules to help our girls become civilized human beings who will hopefully know how to make their way in the world, but according concert pianist Wonny Song, civilized isn't enough -- at least not for girls.

    Song, co-director of a music and fine arts camp in Montreal, was so impressed by the manners of a friend's teenage daughter at a dinner party that he has started a new summer program called Make Over Camp.

    The goal of the two week class, which is geared to girls ages 10 to 14, is to teach things like table manners, posture, conversation, fashion and make up and hostessing skills. "We see a lot of young ladies who can benefit from a makeover program," says camp co-creator Angela Chan. "They need to develop their presence."

    Apparently, "presence" involves being able to put flowers into a vase (decorating a table is one of the course topics) and knowing which fork goes where. A lot of people are critical of the camp, including sociologist Marc LaFrance. "It might as well be called Wife Camp!," LaFrance tells "MacLeans." "Is Betty Draper happy on 'Mad Men?' " No! She's miserable! Things like makeover camp send the message that a girl's value lies in being entertaining, ornamental, totally innocuous, accommodating and polite. I'm also concerned because it targets girls. Where are the boys?"

    Yes, indeed, where are the boys? "There was zero per cent interest from the boys," says Song. "Look, this is not a boot camp to reinforce the notion that girls should stay home. It's not sexist. We would love to include boys, but what can we do?"

    Well, Song and Chang could start by creating a class that teaches etiquette to both sexes equally, one that doesn't send the wrong message to one and exclude the other. There may not be too many boys out there who are willing to admit they're interested in table settings, but there are plenty of teens -- boys and girls, alike -- who could use a refresher in manners. Marc McCreavy, one of the program's instructors, defends the camp by saying, "It's important to learn about appropriate topics of conversation and appropriate attire." Yes -- but important for girls and boys.

    While I think a camp like this sends the wrong message to girls in general, I suspect there are girls out there who might be interested in it. It's like princess dresses. Moms worry when their little girls want to wear princess dresses -- day in and day out -- that they aren't getting enough exposure to gender neutral activities. But some little girls just want to be princesses, no matter how many trucks you stuff in their toy box.

    This class might be a good fit for the kinds of teens who are drawn to this sort of thing, but putting your daughter in it so that you can "make her over?" Uh-uh, no way. Find a horse/art/soccer/whatever-she's-interested-in-camp instead and keep teaching her to write those thank you notes. She'll be just fine.

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  • Pastor Ezekiel
    Putting the "stud" back in Bible Study
     
    • Sep 2006
    • 78555

    #2
    Re: Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

    A lot of people are critical of the camp, including sociologist Marc LaFrance.
    Well if he's a socialist, of course he's going to object. Those people worship Karl Marx and John Lennin.
    Who Will Jesus Damn?

    Here is a partial list from just a few scripture verses:

    Hypocrites (Matthew 24:51), The Unforgiving (Mark 11:26), Homosexuals (Romans 1:26, 27), Fornicators (Romans 1:29), The Wicked (Romans 1:29), The Covetous (Romans 1:29), The Malicious (Romans 1:29), The Envious (Romans 1:29), Murderers (Romans 1:29), The Deceitful (Romans 1:29), Backbiters (Romans 1:30), Haters of God (Romans 1:30), The Despiteful (Romans 1:30), The Proud (Romans 1:30), Boasters (Romans 1:30), Inventors of evil (Romans 1:30), Disobedient to parents (Romans 1:30), Covenant breakers (Romans 1:31), The Unmerciful (Romans 1:31), The Implacable (Romans 1:31), The Unrighteous (1Corinthians 6:9), Idolaters (1Corinthians 6:9), Adulterers (1Corinthians 6:9), The Effeminate (1Corinthians 6:9), Thieves (1Corinthians 6:10), Drunkards (1Corinthians 6:10), Reviler (1Corinthians 6:10), Extortioners (1Corinthians 6:10), The Fearful (Revelation 21:8), The Unbelieving (Revelation 21:8), The Abominable (Revelation 21:8), Whoremongers (Revelation 21:8), Sorcerers (Revelation 21:8), All Liars (Revelation 21:8)

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    • Mad Prophet Helmholtz
      Recovering Outpatient From The Landover Rehabilitation Unit
      Forum Member
      • May 2009
      • 666

      #3
      Re: Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

      :A lot of people are critical of the camp, including sociologist Marc LaFrance.
      I determined he was a socialist by his Surname. Anyone who honors France by naming their family after them is not a Good True Blue American patriot.
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      Hosea 9:7
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      • Miss April
        Landover's Version of Carrie Prejean
        Forum Member
        • Apr 2009
        • 685

        #4
        Re: Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

        That Sounds like such a Wonderful camp for young Lady's I wish i had gone to a place like that when I was Younger but That's off full that a Liebaral profressor whould Even Think that How is it Sexist?

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        • Professor Tyeisha X
          WARNING! Racist communist feminazi bulldyke
          Unsaved trash
          • Jun 2009
          • 293

          #5
          Re: Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

          Institutions which promote the subordination of women like this should be shut down and be made illegal. Dr. LaFrance is a brilliant sociologist and you should all listen to him. I met him at at symposium at UCLA discussing the "rhetorical debasement of the female sex in pop culture". He pointed out the stark reality that everything from movies which propogate the idea of "hapless princesses needing to be saved" to the strict standards of conforming what is expected of young girls by using Barbie dolls and other toys to constrict the brains of female adolescents as weapons of social injustice the White Male Patriarchy bestows upon those humans it deems of lesser value.
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          • Miss April
            Landover's Version of Carrie Prejean
            Forum Member
            • Apr 2009
            • 685

            #6
            Re: Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

            Originally posted by Professor Tyeisha X View Post
            Institutions which promote the subordination of women like this should be shut down and be made illegal. Dr. LaFrance is a brilliant sociologist and you should all listen to him. I met him at at symposium at UCLA discussing the "rhetorical debasement of the female sex in pop culture". He pointed out the stark reality that everything from movies which propogate the idea of "hapless princesses needing to be saved" to the strict standards of conforming what is expected of young girls by using Barbie dolls and other toys to constrict the brains of female adolescents as weapons of social injustice the White Male Patriarchy bestows upon those humans it deems of lesser value.
            No places like This should not be Shut down there Wonderful for Young Lady's Can't you see that? so your Wrong Dr.LaFrance is not a brilliant sociologist I whould not Listen To someone like him

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            • HTannor
              America's Most Fair and Balanced Judge
              True Christian™
              • Jun 2009
              • 2612

              #7
              Re: Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

              Well put, Miss April.

              Reading you concise, well thought ideas, and mentally inserting punctuation marks, I strongly agree with you.

              Whenever I encounter one of the professor's posts, I just can't get over the idea this sadly misguided bulldyke is living exactly where she should - in a cesspool of elitist unGodly liberalism disguising itself as a place of higher learning.

              I get a mental image of her beating on her keyboard in a surrounding cloud of maryjewana smoke, laughing maniacally, and all the while "pleasuring" herself with whatever nearby tool of Satan she has at hand.

              She needs help.

              And she needs to cut down on her watermelon consumption since it's a scientific fact that the vile fruit leads to impure thoughts.
              The Honorable HTannor (Pro NRA, Anti-Homer Marriage), Judge, Freehold Supreme Court

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              • lord warrior
                Confirmed Enemy of God
                • Sep 2007
                • 406

                #8
                Re: Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

                Song, co-director of a music and fine arts camp in Montreal, was so impressed by the manners of a friend's teenage daughter at a dinner party that he has started a new summer program called Make Over Camp.

                The goal of the two week class, which is geared to girls ages 10 to 14, is to teach things like table manners, posture, conversation, fashion and make up and hostessing skills. "We see a lot of young ladies who can benefit from a makeover program," says camp co-creator Angela Chan. "They need to develop their presence."

                Apparently, "presence" involves being able to put flowers into a vase (decorating a table is one of the course topics) and knowing which fork goes where. A lot of people are critical of the camp, including sociologist Marc LaFrance. "It might as well be called Wife Camp!," LaFrance tells "MacLeans." "Is Betty Draper happy on 'Mad Men?' " No! She's miserable! Things like makeover camp send the message that a girl's value lies in being entertaining, ornamental, totally innocuous, accommodating and polite.
                Why is this NOT mandatory for all our young girls. Just look at the internet to what they are doing. These 10-14 year olds dressing like sluts, posing for porn pics and sending them to all the boy's. THIS is what are schools need to teach, not sex ed, or to put a better way " How to screw a dozen guys and learn to not get pregnant-or where the abortion clinic is when you do".

                And wh yare there no boys present? Could it be that at that age they are just a raging hormone factory. That they need to be older to learn this, And that by putting them in the class, the girls could just go back to there whoring ways to please the boy's.

                And that's why this professor and lex X hate this. Someone tries to teach the girls the RIGHT way to get a boy and they cry foul. They would much perfer them to act like little Briteny's and Lindsey's, with there short skirts and NO PANTIES. That way, they condem them to the hell that they cetently will suffer.

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                • JennyD
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                  • Dec 2007
                  • 9567

                  #9
                  Re: Liebaral professor decries virtues of "Wife School"

                  Personally, I'd be horrified to see the "boys" that would be interested in a class about makeup and fashion and table-setting!
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