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  • Virginia Day Templeton
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    • Dec 2006
    • 2827

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    Gifting clubs: Godly or not?

    With ACORN holding the economy in a vise grip, it's natural that many families have fallen on hard times... and mine is sadly among them. We missed our last nine monthly credit payments because of Obama. To help gain some lost ground, my husband Gary is thinking of setting up a gifting club.

    Nifty idea, right? It seems a wonderful means of earning some honest dough while strengthening the bonds of friendship at the same. However, I have some concerns about it, and I want to ask the Church for advice.

    As the diagram below illustrates, a gifting club is set up in a pyramind-like arrangement –

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    – which I find disturbingly similar to Masonic/Illuminati iconography such as that found on our currency.

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    Could my husband be putting his soul in jeopardy by associating with such a wicked symbol? Surely it can't be any worse than handling dollar bills every day. He, at least, thinks we have nothing to worry about, but I just have this nagging feeling that maybe something isn't right here...
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    Have at it, anytime!
    • Sep 2006
    • 11027

    #2
    Re: Gifting clubs: Godly or not?

    My Dear Sister Christ-O-Holic Virginia,

    What a wonderful idea! I think. I'll need for my Husband to fully explain this to me.

    First of all, of course, I must find a Husband

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    • Brother Temperance
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      • Sep 2006
      • 15621

      #3
      Re: Gifting clubs: Godly or not?

      I'd be very suspicious of this idea. Anything based around gift-giving smacks of Communism to me. If something's worth having, it's worth paying for. Just look at this extract from a notorious Belgian tract against Freedom:
      The crumbling away of human values under the influence of exchange mechanisms leads to the crumbling of exchange itself. The insufficiency of the feudal gift means that new human relationships must be built on the principle of pure giving. We must rediscover the pleasure of giving: giving because you have so much. What beautiful and priceless potlatches the affluent society will see -- whether it likes it or not! -- when the exuberance of the younger generation discovers the pure gift. The growing passion for stealing books, clothes, food, weapons or jewelry simply for the pleasure of giving them away gives us a glimpse of what the will to live has in store for consumer society.
      Gifts are a threat to the American way of life!
      O Lord our God, help us to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells; help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead; help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain; help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire; help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief; help us to turn them out roofless with little children to wander unfriended the wastes of their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames of summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring Thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it--for our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, stain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet! We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts. Amen.



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      • Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.
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        • Aug 2010
        • 259

        #4
        Re: Gifting clubs: Godly or not?

        Dear Brother Temperance,

        Originally posted by Brother Temperance View Post
        I'd be very suspicious of this idea. Anything based around gift-giving smacks of Communism to me. If something's worth having, it's worth paying for.
        Amen to that Brother! All these "invest nothing and get rich quick" schemes are doomed from the start. You can not make money out of nothing. You have to invest money to make some serious money! You have to learn how to think like a millionaire, to become a millionaire! God has very clear instructions on these matters: "Whoever sows generously will also reap generously"! (2nd Corinthians 9:6)

        Also you have to be patient! Making serious money takes time! "Bring forth fruit with patience." (Luke 8:15)

        Yours in Christ,

        Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.
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