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Dear Friends,

I present to you:

About HELL!



Chapter 1: Introduction.
The world is filled with people who claim to be Christians but who, at the same time, have no clue about what is really in the Holy Bible. They are called false Christians. There are many flavors, Catholics being the most common one. Unfortunately for all these false Christians, there is only one way to go to Heaven: "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life: no man comes to the Father but by Me." (John 14:6). So only by choosing Jesus for 100%, only by following His Holy Bible for 100%, can we ever hope to once reach Heaven. There is no other way. There is no shortcut!

However, God being rich in mercy and grace, wanted to be certain as many people as possible would go to Heaven. He made the alternative so horrible that everyone had but one choice: to want to go to Heaven. So God created some very simple guidelines and made sure everyone can know about them. Either you choose God, or you go to Hell: "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." (Revelation 21:8)

However, something amazingly horrible is happening all around us. Many people believe the evil lies of people like Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa, Ghandi and the Dalai Lama that all you have to do for a great afterlife is being a nice person. Some people even claim Hell doesn't even exist! They are all lying! Being a nice person has nothing to do with reaching Heaven. Everything you need to know to go to Heaven is in the Holy Bible and everything else is irrelevant! And God, being all knowing, explicitly warns us for these lying people: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." (Matthew 24:24)

My "Holy Bible Series" are not meant as a substitute for the Holy Bible. All it does is showing specific parts of the Holy Bible so you can learn the truth instead of the lies that all these horrible people have been telling you. And it is my sincere hope that once you have learned the truth, that you will start doing the right thing. That you will stop listening to liars and start reading the real thing: God's Holy Bible. That you learn what God is really about. Because only after you really know what is in the Holy Bible can you determine who around you is telling the truth and who is lying to you.

Chapter 2: Does HELL really exist? Yes!
Since there are several false Christians who, falsely, claim the New Testament is somehow more important than the Old Testament, I will only use the New Testament in this chapter.

Let's start with the story of the rich man and the beggar: The Rich Man and Lazarus. The entire story is in Luke 16:19-31. Here: "And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham's bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame." (Luke 16:22-24) we can learn 3 very important things. One: Hell exists. Two: Heaven exists. Three: There is nothing else. Purgatory does not exist. Limbo does not exist. Reincarnation does not exist. There is no alternative, shortcut or bypass. It's either Hell or Heaven! God could not have been more clear.

There are many warnings against Hell in the Hole Bible. For example: "And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched" (Mark 9:43). Please note Mark makes very clear here that Hell is so horrible, that is better to cut off the hand you use to sin, e.g. the sin of masturbation, than to go to Hell! Could God have been any clearer? God clearly doesn't want us to suffer, why else would He have put so many warnings against Hell in His Holy Bible? Praise The LORD!

Hell is referred to in "And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." (Revelation 20:10). Hell is not specifically mentioned in Revelation 20:10, but Hell is mentioned in Revelation 20:13 and Revelation 20:14, making clear Revelation 20:10 is all about Hell. Based on Revelation 20:10, some false Christians claim that ordinary humans will not go to Hell, as it mentions the beast and false prophets. They are completely wrong though. Just read what I said about Revelation 21:8 in chapter 1 again and you will see in no uncertain terms that murderers, liars and unbelievers will all go to Hell! Did you ever lie in your life? That makes you a liar! And as you now know, all liars will go to Hell!

Finally lets look at: "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him." (Luke 12:5). Making very clear we should fear both God and Hell! When I read this part of the Bible it always fills me with great joy that Jesus loves us so very much that he gave us these clear guidelines!

Chapter 3: What is HELL really like? Horrible!
Hell is a personalized experience. Not everyone will be tortured in exactly the same way. You can see that here: "And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works." (Revelation 20:13). So God, in his infinite mercy, adapts the punishment to the crimes you have committed. To those who note that Revelation 20:13 doesn't specifically mention punishment; Matthew 23:14, James 3:1, Matthew 11:23-24, Luke 12:46-48, 2nd Peter 2:20-21 and Revelation 20:13 also make clear, not all sinners are punished equally.

However everyone in Hell will burn! "And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." (Revelation 20:14-15). So while the exact punishment will differ from person to person, all of them will burn in the fires of Hell! No exceptions.

The brimstone and the lake that are mentioned in Revelation 21:8 make clear how exactly the fires of Hell work. The best way to describe Hell is that there is a lake of liquid sulfur (as mentioned in Genesis 19:24) in which all those who are in Hell are all burning. That looks like the picture on top of this article. Looking horrible? Just imagine the real thing being much worse!

Where there is fire, there is smoke: "And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up ..." (Revelation 14:11). So breathing in all that smoke and the horrible smell will be complete torture. You will feel like you are suffocating all the time! Your lungs will be burning with every breath you take!

And that's not all. It also says "... and they have no rest day nor night." (Revelation 14:11). So the torture is 24/7. In Hell you can never sleep and you can never rest!

Chapter 4: Is HELL really for all eternity? Yes!
How some false Christians believe Hell is only temporary is beyond me. The Holy Bible is abundantly clear about Hell being a place where sinners are being tortured for all eternity.

When you look at: "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels." (Matthew 25:41) you can clearly see all sinners (the angels of the devil) will be in Hell for all eternity.

Still in doubt? Then there is: "In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;" (2nd Thessalonians 1:8-9). Also making very clear Hell lasts forever.

Still trying to convince yourself you will somehow escape from Hell? Look at: "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." (Matthew 25:46) where God clearly shows us both Heaven and Hell are eternal.

Denying our all knowing God's truth will never work. His Holy Bible is too clear. His eternal mercy is too great. God wants all of us to go to Him in Heaven. So He wants to make sure the alternative is so awful, so horrible, so inescapable, that no one would want to go there. If there was even a tiny chance of being allowed to leave from Hell, then that would hurt our drive to want to go to Heaven. And God does not want that. He wants us to go to Heaven. So God made Hell eternal! That is how much God loves us!

Chapter 5: That sounds awful, can I prevent this? Yes you can!
It makes God really sad when people choose the wrong path: "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?" (Ezekiel 33:11). He really wants all of us to come to Him in Heaven. That is just how unbelievably magnificent God is!

There are many many ways to sin. So it is important to realize that it is impossible for us not to sin. That is just how awful we are. God gave us life, and we insult Him by sinning. And God knows this about us: "For all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God." (Romans 3:23) and also "There is none righteous; no, not one." (Romans 3:10). So trying not to sin, trying to be good, is not the solution here. Like I said before, Pope John Paul II, Mother Teresa, Ghandi and the Dalai Lama, all of them are completely and utterly wrong!

But fortunately for us, God is very merciful. He gives us clear instructions on how we can go to Heaven. We have to repent: "Except you repent, you shall all likewise perish" (Luke 13:3) and we have to have faith: "For by grace are ye saved through faith." (Ephesians 2:8). Surprisingly easy! We are truly blessed with a God being merciful and good: "And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth." (Exodus 34:6). The most amazing thing is that once we are saved, we are no longer sinners! "But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin." (1st John 1:7) "And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood" (Revelation 1:5) "Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God." (1st John 3:9)

There are limits to God's leniency though. While someone who murders, acts homosexual, steals and rapes can easily go to Heaven, just as long as he repents and chooses Jesus, blasphemy is never allowed: "Blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." (Matthew 12:31). So you have to be very careful to never do that. Because once you do, it's over and out. Forever. For all eternity.

May God bless you!

Yours in Christ,

Pastor J.C. Manning, M.D., Ph.D.
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THE BIBLE SAYS THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY TO HEAVEN!
Jesus said: "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." John 14:6

ONLY JESUS CAN SAVE YOU!

"That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus,
and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him
from the dead, thou shalt be saved." Romans 10:9


1. Admit you are a worthless sinner. Romans 3:10
2. Be willing to turn from sin (repent). Acts 17:30
3. Believe that Jesus Christ died for you, was buried and
rose from the dead. Romans 10:9-10
4. Through prayer, invite Jesus into your life to become
your personal Savior, Boss, King and Lord. Romans 10:13
What to Pray:

Lord Jesus, I know that I have sinned against you.
I know that I am not perfect and that I can never
please you through my own efforts. I know that I
deserve to be judged according to my sins. And, I
know that I have absolutely nothing to offer you.

Lord Jesus, I ask you to forgive me. I do not rely
on myself but only on you and I receive you as
Lord of my life and as savior of my soul.
Lord Jesus, please save me!

Accepted Jesus as your Savior?
Now you need to:


1. Study your KJV Bible every day
to get to know Christ better.
2. Talk to God in prayer every day.
3. Be baptized, worship, fellowship,
and serve with other Christians
in a church where Christ is preached,
and the Bible is the final authority.
4. Tell others about Jesus Christ
until the day Jesus finally kills you.

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I hope this will wake up those fools visiting our forum who are not taking Hell seriously!
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First off what I want to say is that you all call yourselves Christians yet I see stuff like "Book for retard" and "How fat people destroy America" thats hate right there and if you THINK your going to Heaven with that hate then I want to go to the OPPOSITE direction your going to.

Second of all what proof do you have to back up your claims of all this? Its just words.
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First off what I want to say is that you all call yourselves Christians yet I see stuff like "Book for retard" and "How fat people destroy America" thats hate right there and if you THINK your going to Heaven with that hate then I want to go to the OPPOSITE direction your going to.
Second of all what proof do you have to back up your claims of all this? Its just words.
WHAT PROOF WE HAVE?????

We have the most solid proof you can ever find - the HOLY BIBLE. And NO, it's not just words. It's the WORDS OF GOD THE ALMIGHTY. How dare you question him?

2 Chronicles 15:12-13
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul. All who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman.
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I'm a Christian right now but I am looking to gather some information for one final decision. ITS A BOOK what about the Qu'aran? Thats what the almighty Allah says so their book is real too? Thats exactly what they think. There has ALSO been many evidence to prove that God could not exist.
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I'm a Christian right now but I am looking to gather some information for one final decision. ITS A BOOK what about the Qu'aran? Thats what the almighty Allah says so their book is real too? Thats exactly what they think. There has ALSO been many evidence to prove that God could not exist.
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An Announcement Regarding the Afterlife
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1 An ancient and venerable sage spoke unto the Pastaists of all the divisions, unto the Noodleists, and unto the Maranarists, the Fettucinians, the Pastafarians, and all of the great Pasta-based members of the Holy and Delicious Faith, and said:
2 It is my contention that a loving God of any kind would not Damn someone to Hell.
3 Darning them to Heck would be a problem for a supposedly intelligent creator.
4 Lakes of fire, boiling waters, sauces, etc, aren't a good choice.
5 If you want to attract "justified" persons, portray just rewards and punishments.
6 If you want to attract lunatics and sadists, portray violent punishments.
7 There will be a kind of HellLight, where unbelievers have to live with school cafeteria spaghetti, second rate beer, and boring jobs in the service industries where the Heavenbound FSMists will be living.
8 There will be no privation, no physical torture, no burning or boiling in various liquids.
9 These aren't bad people, these are people that followed the culture and customs of their times and did not recognize the difference between a culture and a faith.
10 Actual FSM Hell is reserved for a very few, and those will be divided from the Pasta, the finest beverages and the fellowship of persons of good will and kind intent.
11 They will do all the laundry, cleaning and heavy or unpleasant jobs that are there.
12 Never will they eat of the Pasta of any kind, but will live on lots of beans and rice, potatoes and extremely cheap cuts of meat, and the type of diet that the American urban poor can afford, or that Senior Citizens and disabled persons on Social Security are reduced to.
13 They get the really icky dirty work.
14 They deserve it.
15 The bullies of the geopolitical world will be there, and their helpers.
16 The false religious leaders, who plead for funds through electronic media, and give nothing of their true selves, and hoard the money and live in opulence, they will be there.
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The lake of fire was started by Osiris. From E.A. Wallis Budges book Osiris and the Egyptian Ressurection. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_...ry/3556794719/

The thought behind it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_...ry/3827553514/

The lake of Fire is life itself. duh.
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The lake of fire was started by Osiris. From E.A. Wallis Budges book Osiris and the Egyptian Ressurection. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_...ry/3556794719/

The thought behind it. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sacred_...ry/3827553514/

The lake of Fire is life itself. duh.
You seem to like your creepy occult scribblings. Why don't you read the KJV instead of drawing that stuff?

The lake of fire isn't life, its an actual lake of fire:

"And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." Revelation 19:20

"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Revelation 20:10

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Revelation 20:14

"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelation 21:8
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You seem to like your creepy occult scribblings. Why don't you read the KJV instead of drawing that stuff?

The lake of fire isn't life, its an actual lake of fire:

"And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone." Revelation 19:20

"And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever." Revelation 20:10

"And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death." Revelation 20:14

"And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire." Revelation 20:15

"But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death." Revelation 21:8
You do you brimestone is another word for sulpher right?

Interesting, I never noticed this before when I read revelations, the false Prophet decieved those who have taken the mark. Combine that with the fact that you aren't supposed to worship graven images, anything of marbel, wood, or stone, as well as the images of man. The best conclusion can be drawn out by realizing the Cross with Jesus on it is the image of the Beast, since of course you wern't supposed to worship graven images. And you have.
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You do you brimestone is another word for sulpher right?

Interesting, I never noticed this before when I read revelations, the false Prophet decieved those who have taken the mark. Combine that with the fact that you aren't supposed to worship graven images, anything of marbel, wood, or stone, as well as the images of man. The best conclusion can be drawn out by realizing the Cross with Jesus on it is the image of the Beast, since of course you wern't supposed to worship graven images. And you have.
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WE'RE NOT CATHOLICS

We don't worship crosses or graven images. Sure there may be a cross on our church, but nobody bows down to it or kisses it or anything. In fact crosses on Christian churches is just a leftover from the time when people couldn't read. The same as different weather vanes.

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Funny how one book can get twisted into various forms and still not one realize that they are divided against themselves. This house will not stand until the bible becomes just that, the bible.
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Funny how one book can get twisted into various forms and still not one realize that they are divided against themselves. This house will not stand until the bible becomes just that, the bible.
"This House" is built on sand and will not stand even with just one version of the collected fairy tales. Let us have a look at a couple of its foundations...

A burning Lake of Fire - Not a good choice for an Intelligent Creator

Jesus Christ - never existed


I think I better make a correction, if it was built on sand that would be an improvement on its current foundations.
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"This House" is built on sand and will not stand even with just one version of the collected fairy tales.
Look, the teaching of the Bible is our daily bread - the Bible clearly says (and this is God speaking through Paul,)

Ti:1:14: Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.)


So we are unlikely to listen to folk tales and fairy stories.

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Look, the teaching of the Bible is our daily bread - the Bible clearly says (and this is God speaking through Paul,)

Ti:1:14: Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.)


So we are unlikely to listen to folk tales and fairy stories.
If that is the case then why do you base your whole life on a book that is nothing but a collection of folk tales and fairy tales?
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I am sorry that you intelligence does not give you the mental capabilities to realize that they do not in fact exist and they would not but a choice an intelligent creator would go for.

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Let us look at this logically, during the Roman period they were fanatical record keepers, yet you say there was a bloke going round raising the dead, turning water into wine and feeding 5,000 people with a fish supper. How come no one noticed at the time an made a note of it?

The new testament - written long after the events where alleged to have happened by a group of people who wanted to justify their claim that other people should do what they told them to.
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Default Re: The Holy Bible Series PART 1: HELL!

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Originally Posted by Jo Freddie
blah .. blah .. do not form a foundation .. etc.
If that is the case then why - has the house stood?
earlier you wrote:
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"This House" is built on sand and will not stand
But it has stood.

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Originally Posted by Eyesight
Thats what the almighty Allah says so their book is real too?
Allah is not The Almighty. The Almighty is Shaddai.

@RomanK
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This house will not stand until the bible becomes just that, the bible.
as regards the first part of your rather unusual comment, this house does stand and has stood for over 2,000 years Matthew 24:35
The 2nd part is somewhat more enigmatic: The Bible of course already is The Bible

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You are very patient Galatians 5:22
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