Traitors Against The Bible!

[Born Again Bob]

Dear Friends,

God is very clear. “You shall have no other gods before me.” Exodus 20:3. Those who fail to comply with this First Commandment will be “utterly destroyed.” Exodus 22:20.

You can't be devoted to God and Baal, Jesus and Zeus, the Holy Spirit and the Great Spirit. "No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other." Matthew 6:24.

For that same reason, anyone who puts logic, experience, common sense, ethics or anything else above the Word of God is a cursed idolater. To subject the Bible to any sort of test is in and of itself to turn the criteria of that test into a false god "before" the Living God. Let's start with logic.

LOGIC IS A FALSE GOD
The most basic logical proposition is the principle of identity, A=A. The plain text of the Bible is full of logical contradictions. Ahaziah was 22 and 42 years old when he began to rule. 2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2. Saul's daughter Micah had no children, but she also had five sons. 2 Samuel 6:23 and 2 Samuel 21:8. The very last words of Jesus were both, "Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit" and "It is finished." Luke 23:46 and John 19:30 . God does not repent, but he does repent. Num. 23:19 and Ex. 32:14. And on and on.

If I were a worshipper of the false God of logic, the principle of identity would box me in.

I could claim that these seeming contradictions are not really contradictions when squinted at in a certain light, and assuming things that are nowhere stated, and assuming other things that no disinterested observer in her right mind would ever believe. In short, I could be intellectually dishonest and fudge the results. The result is being faithless to two masters (logic and God) instead of just one.

But if, as a faithful worshipper of logic, I follow logic's inexorable operations, I would have to say that contradiction in the Bible implies the falsity of one of the Biblical premises in question. And once we start down this road, there is no stopping. I would have to start denying whole swathes of the Bible, preferring in each case my devotion to the golden calf of logic.

The True Christian™ does not have this dilemma. If the Bible affirms something, it is true, even if it contradicts something else that is also in the Bible. Illogical? Who cares? God will not be made to bow down before logic. I shatter your golden calf with my stone tablets.

EXPERIENCE AND COMMON SENSE ARE FALSE GODS
I believe in giants and unicorns. Numbers 13:33 and 23:22. I believe in dragons. Deuteronomy 32:33. I believe in behemoths and leviathans. Job 40 and 41. You say they're only fit for Trapper Keepers, but I know otherwise. The Bible tells me so.

I believe the value of pi is 3. 1 Kings 7:23. I don't care that this caused me to flunk geometry one year. The Bible tells me so.

I reject the idea that the Earth spins on any axis, or revolves around the sun...it moveth not. 1 Chronicles 16:32. And, of course, I reject the idea that Earth is a sphere...it has borders. Isaiah 11:12. I've seen all the space pictures and science films, read the science. Don't care. The Bible tells me so.

Think otherwise? You're worshipping science, mathematics, or the evidence of your senses, NOT GOD. And you will be utterly destroyed.

SECULAR ETHICS IS A FALSE GOD
My God would, and did:
* send bears to massacre 42 little children who made fun of a prophet's bald head. 2 Kings 2:23-24.
* lead his chosen people on the genocide of 12,000 men women and children. Joshua 8:25.
* harden Pharaoh's heart against letting the Isrealites go, and then smite Pharaoh for having a hard heart. Exodus, passim.
* command an old man to kill his only son as a blood sacrifice. Genesis 22.

If your God wouldn't, or didn't, you have put someone or something before the God of the Bible. And your reward will be fire and eternal darkness.

Yours in Him,
bab.

[Juliette]

Re: Traitors Against The Bible!

Amen Brother bab,

I'll point visiting unsaved trash, false christians and Aussies immediatly to tour excellent post.

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Traitors Against The Bible!

Brother Bob,

Allow me to help you with your fight against the evil of thinking false thoughts otherwise known as “applying logic”


1. Ahaziah was 22 and 42 years old when he began to rule. 2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2.

In those days time was calculated not by a year (e.g. we are now in the year 397After-KJV) following a definite event but was calculated by reference to the reigning King.

So, if you were born at the beginning of the reign of King X who reigned for say, 10 years and who was followed by King Y who reigned for 20 years, your age at (what we now consider to be 30) would be given as 30 years (after the beginning of the reign of X) or, and equally true, 20 years after the reign of Y – so you would be both 30 and 20!

2. Moving on, “2 Kings 8:26 and 2 Chronicles 22:2. Saul's daughter Micah had no children, but she also had five sons. 2 Samuel 6:23 and 2 Samuel 21:8.” The latter instance refer to the point at which the sons were adult and thus, not children.

3. Your next point, “I believe in giants and unicorns. Numbers 13:33 and 23:22. I believe in dragons. Deuteronomy 32:33. I believe in behemoths and leviathans. Job 40 and 41.”

And let us not forget cockatrices. “(Isa:11:8: And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa:14:29: Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent's root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.
Isa59 : 5: They hatch cockatrice' eggs, and weave the spider's web: he that eateth of their eggs dieth, and that which is crushed breaketh out into a viper.
Jer:8:17: For, behold, I will send serpents, cockatrices, among you, which will not be charmed, and they shall bite you, saith the LORD”.

These are all animals that died and became extinct. All animals were created by God, Who gave them a use for mankind on earth. Once that use is gone, there is no need for the animal and God kills it off so it doesn’t eat stuff that is good for us. Why is there no fossil record (a) they were rare and what’s the chance of finding such remains? (b) “scientists” have not gotten round to making their bones from stone to fool us all and support their evilution theory.

4. “I believe the value of pi is 3. 1 Kings 7:23.” I don't care that this caused me to flunk geometry one year. The Bible tells me so. Scientist may tell you that the value of pi is 3 followed by some huge number of figures but The Lord says 3 – fair enough. I have gone to a website that give the value of pi to 100 place (3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937 51058209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170 679)

But this number goes on for ever and ever according to “scientists” who grudgingly admit that, even to 1,000,000 places, this is not accurate. Had He wished to give it accurately and it was only a lake after all – and doubt not that he knows the exact figure – He would have done this. When the Lord said pi is 3, that is good enough.

5. I reject the idea that the Earth spins on any axis, or revolves around the sun...it moveth not. 1 Chronicles 16:32.

First allow me to correct you, the reference is16:30 “Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.” This simply means that the world shall not be move by your fearing Him.

(To be frank, the question of whether the Earth, as seems reasonable, is the centre of His Universe, is a not difficult one, insomuch as that it is the centre of His universe)

6. My God would, and did:
* send bears to massacre 42 little children who made fun of a prophet's bald head. 2 Kings 2:23-24.
* lead his chosen people on the genocide of 12,000 men women and children. Joshua 8:25.
* harden Pharaoh's heart against letting the Isrealites go, and then smite Pharaoh for having a hard heart. Exodus, passim.
* command an old man to kill his only son as a blood sacrifice. Genesis 22.

(i) The taunting of bald men in those days was as great a problem as, say drug dealing is today – this was a one-off job by God. It put an end to an evil problem that was besetting the earth. You think it’s a little severe, but look at the way our governments here on earth invade our privacy and control our lives. What is better, a one off job or a continuing drip, drip, drip of tyrannical laws against the heart of liberty?

(ii)12,000 killed – and why not, they were godless heathens and unredeemable. Why should God create man only to have him go against him. If you made a gun that blew up in your face each time it was fired, would you not destroy the gun? Once you have agreed this, numbers don’t matter and the fact that it was people is beside the point.

(iii) Hardening Pharoah’s heart: Clearly Pharoah deceived God and got little more than he deserved: He agrees to let the Israelites go because he sees the light, then he changes his mind and sends his army after them. If you were God, just how angry would you be against this welching Egyptian?

(iv) command an old man to kill his only son as a blood sacrifice. Genesis 22. May I say that a command from God is just that – you can’t just disobey it – that is the lesson here. And the story had a happy ending after all.

Brother Bob, faith is required but, as all of the KJV Bible is true and without exception, so much is made for us to read and understand without questioning. There are things that may be only Pastor Billy-Reuben understands, but this does not mean his faith is less, or ours is more.

Faith is believing The Word of God is true – it is true – you can question it (although you should not) and the answer to your question will always be, “It is true”!

I urge you to continue with your faith and go on your way rejoicing.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Traitors Against The Bible!

Dear Brother Bathfire,

Why bother with all this (no doubt true and well-supported) rigamarole?

The Bible says it.

It is so.

Not because we can prop it up with historical context or analysis, but because the Bible is always right, period.

In fact, Jesus only spoke English. Look at the KJV. You will not see a single word of Hebrew or Greek or Aramaic attributed to Him. (Or to any of the speakers in the Bible).

Does it match with history? No way.

But it is in the Bible, and I BELIEVE IT.

Yours in Him,
bab <---- God's Lil' Ken Doll

[Dr. Warren Wierdsbe]

Re: Traitors Against The Bible!

Dear Brother Bathfire,

Why bother with all this (no doubt true and well-supported) rigamarole?

The Bible says it.

It is so.

Not because we can prop it up with historical context or analysis, but because the Bible is always right, period.

In fact, Jesus only spoke English. Look at the KJV. You will not see a single word of Hebrew or Greek or Aramaic attributed to Him. (Or to any of the speakers in the Bible).

Does it match with history? No way.

But it is in the Bible, and I BELIEVE IT.

Yours in Him,
bab <---- God's Lil' Ken Doll

Well, Brother Bob, THANK YOU for expressing so well the truth of these matters. Brothers and Sisters get all caught up in these days of "Secular Progressives" (a Satanic media compromise with what the true name is...God-hating Whoresons) with the idea that we have to prove anything. Of course the Bible says it. What else need be said?

As we know, all this "scientific" mumbo-jumbo is just Satan's Little Helpers' way to make themselves feel the flames of Hell a little less. It eases their dirty, sinful conscience and gives them something they think is real to hold on to. Fact is, they are holding on to the millstone that will drag them under the lake of fire! Glory to God!!

If God said it, it's true whether I believe it or can get my head around it, or not. Therefore, why worry about trying to use the Homers' demon "logic" to try to persuade them?

Here's a little bit of truth about ignorance:

2 Peter 3

1This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
2That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.





1 Corinthians 14:36-39



38But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.



Hallelujah brothers and sisters, I agree with God! Let them be ignorant!

[The Absurdist]

Re: Traitors Against The Bible!

In fact, Jesus only spoke English. Look at the KJV. You will not see a single word of Hebrew or Greek or Aramaic attributed to Him. (Or to any of the speakers in the Bible).

1 Corinthians 14:36-39

38But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant.

I'll follow this verse, and let BAB be ignorant.

[Born Again Bob]

Re: Traitors Against The Bible!

Dear Friend,

I know the path to Heaven. And that's all I need to know.



Yours in Him,
bab

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Traitors Against The Bible!

Dear Brother Bathfire,

Why bother with all this (no doubt true and well-supported) rigamarole?

The Bible says it.

It is so.
bab <---- God's Lil' Ken Doll

Brother Bob,
I did consider that my post was likely to be a little more than required and that you and I are, and the world should be, happy in pure, unsullied and unthinking faith.

I, however, thought that it was worthwhile to use your post to point out to other visitors by way of a reply that LBC is filled with a huge and vibrant mixture of information on the Bible and pure, faith but all of them run to the complete acceptance of God’s Word.

Your instinctive faith, as it is, is stirring and enviable – I was able humbly to write a few lines to show that it really did not matter whether anyone understands or not. This is a great advantage and saves wear on the brain.

It’s all a bit like a computer; you don’t have to know how every little bit works, how the keyboard gets its message to the screen. It just does, and that’s enough. If you go fiddling with the innards of a computer, like as not you’ll ruin it and be cursed by data loss. Just accept that it works and it does. Disobey its commands and you’re back to that data loss.

If visitors have doubts about blind faith, there is no need, and those who mock unthinking trust in the Lord’s Word are sure to be embarrassed and apologetic when that truth is shown to them. With the Lord’s help thereafter, they may change their ways accept the Lord unquestioningly and become washed in Christ’s Blood.

1Th:2:4: But as we were allowed of God to be put in trust with the gospel, even so we speak; not as pleasing men, but God, which trieth our hearts.