[GayWiccan'R'US2]

Re: About Wicca.

Nah, you're retardeds. I can tell by your lack of capitalization and 3rd grade spelling.

How old are you, little girl?


I'm glad you recognize what the Bible says.

Don't you think you should take your concerns up with God? He wrote it, we just follow it.

By the way, so do more than 70% of your fellow Brits.


Remember, it's down the street, not across the tracks!

Because you already know?

No, we believe God is right. You prefer to pray to Mary, the dead woman God used to carry Himself when He came to Earth as a human. Weirdo.

And in which Catholic perversion do you see this?

Guess He doesn't love anyone, then, as God will kill each and every one of us.


That's not God. That's Satan. Dimwit.

I believe Mr. Brasil already responded to your plagiarized list of so-called "contradictions".

We've moved on. We're not interested, so stop jumping up and down and screaming, "LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME!!"

Attention whore.

God created everything, he created life we live in magic, hes the master of creation, who are you to judge us and tell us gays and witches should die, you should know theres a bible for us its called The Witches Bible lmao

i worship the gods and goddesses simular way you do 2, we all worship that, so dont you judge what you cant understand OKAY!

[GayWiccan'R'US1]

Re: About Wicca.

Every false Bible is different. That's why we stick with the one true Bible, the King James 1611.

That to me screams out that your "Bible" is a false Bible. The date says 1611, which suggests it was written in 1611, not when all those Prophets and Disciples lived, when it was supposed to be written.

And plus I used to be a Catholic and believed in the power of God and I used to believe that he would set me free from a really bad depression I went through for about 2-3 years. I nearly killed myself God knows how many times. In the end I gave up and stopped believing in God's all-powerful power and I abandoned Catholicism completely and turned to witchcraft as a salvation. It is much believable and it has saved me whereas Christianity didn't. So just look what your religion teaches:

• harm or kill others that don't belong in your religion. i.e. gays, witches.
• If they are depressed and suicidal, they are too weak so you don't help them so they will kill themselves anyway.
• That you believe in going into the "KINGDOM" when you die.

It's all death and suicide and depression and power dominated. Do you think any more blood should be spilled because you believe that God thinks its wrong? Can you really spare the lives of so many innocent people who are witches and/or gay or whatever because they have done nothing to upset anybody?

Wicca believes in:

• Love and peace. That you should love everyone regardless of who they are: gay, straight, black, white, Jew, Buddhist, etc.
• That if people are depressed and suicidal, then we should be there for them and teach them to love themselves and know that others love them.
• That we shouldn't harm or kill others because of who they are, that is against our Rede completely.
• That when we die, we go into Heaven, which isn't a "KINGDOM". It's a paradise where we should rest and look over others and help them. Guide them if we can by becoming angels or spirit guides to people.

We just believe in making the lives of people better, whoever they are. And we don't want to change the sort of person they are. We don't want to kill anyone because of who they are.
Wicca helped me get over my depression and suicidal self and now I've got a boyfriend who loves me for who I am and I love him and I know that he is always going to be there for me like I will be for him. I know you probably think that it should be frowned upon, but it is just like any other relationship, both straight and gay.

[GayWiccan'R'US2]

Re: About Wicca.

That to me screams out that your "Bible" is a false Bible. The date says 1611, which suggests it was written in 1611, not when all those Prophets and Disciples lived, when it was supposed to be written.

And plus I used to be a Catholic and believed in the power of God and I used to believe that he would set me free from a really bad depression I went through for about 2-3 years. I nearly killed myself God knows how many times. In the end I gave up and stopped believing in God's all-powerful power and I abandoned Catholicism completely and turned to witchcraft as a salvation. It is much believable and it has saved me whereas Christianity didn't. So just look what your religion teaches:

• harm or kill others that don't belong in your religion. i.e. gays, witches.
• If they are depressed and suicidal, they are too weak so you don't help them so they will kill themselves anyway.
• That you believe in going into the "KINGDOM" when you die.

It's all death and suicide and depression and power dominated. Do you think any more blood should be spilled because you believe that God thinks its wrong? Can you really spare the lives of so many innocent people who are witches and/or gay or whatever because they have done nothing to upset anybody?

Wicca believes in:

• Love and peace. That you should love everyone regardless of who they are: gay, straight, black, white, Jew, Buddhist, etc.
• That if people are depressed and suicidal, then we should be there for them and teach them to love themselves and know that others love them.
• That we shouldn't harm or kill others because of who they are, that is against our Rede completely.
• That when we die, we go into Heaven, which isn't a "KINGDOM". It's a paradise where we should rest and look over others and help them. Guide them if we can by becoming angels or spirit guides to people.

We just believe in making the lives of people better, whoever they are. And we don't want to change the sort of person they are. We don't want to kill anyone because of who they are.
Wicca helped me get over my depression and suicidal self and now I've got a boyfriend who loves me for who I am and I love him and I know that he is always going to be there for me like I will be for him. I know you probably think that it should be frowned upon, but it is just like any other relationship, both straight and gay.

i totally agree
witches are people too,
gays/lesbians/bisexuals/transsexuals are people too
witchcraft saved my life and it will keep saving me,
an it harm none do what ye will
love and light blessed be

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: About Wicca.

God created everything, he created life we live in magic, hes the master of creation, who are you to judge us and tell us gays and witches should die,

We don't say you should die. God does.

GET IT?

That to me screams out that your "Bible" is a false Bible. The date says 1611, which suggests it was written in 1611, not when all those Prophets and Disciples lived, when it was supposed to be written.

That's because you're an ignorant twit.

God directed King James to re-translate the Bible in 1611, wresting control from the Catholic Cult, and guided his scribes to be sure every word was correct. You can read all about it RIGHT HERE.

And plus I used to be a Catholic and believed in the power of God and I used to believe that he would set me free from a really bad depression I went through for about 2-3 years. I nearly killed myself God knows how many times.

Catholics worship pagan gods and goddesses like Mary/Semiramis. Catholics deny God in favor of their own traditions.

You were never Christian, so it's no surprise that He ignored your whinings.

Wicca believes in:

• Love and peace. That you should love everyone regardless of who they are: gay, straight, black, white, Jew, Buddhist, etc.

That explains why you are invading a Christian Church website to attack and insult us and God. That's what you call love and peace?

We just believe in making the lives of people better, whoever they are. And we don't want to change the sort of person they are.

You sure seem to want to change Christians!!

Wicca helped me get over my depression and suicidal self and now I've got a boyfriend who loves me for who I am and I love him and I know that he is always going to be there for me like I will be for him. I know you probably think that it should be frowned upon, but it is just like any other relationship, both straight and gay.

I'm glad you're happy with your ridiculous superstitions generated by Gerald Gardner in the 1950s. It's too bad you reject objective reality and turn instead to fantasies of magical powers which you do not have, and supernatural beings or "spirit guides" which do not exist.

Truly, you are more pathetic than the atheist who denies God. At least the atheist is consistent, saying that there are NO gods and no magical fantasy worlds. You deny the One True Three-Faced God, with a 6,000-year history, in favor of a made-up "lord and lady", with a 50-year history!!

[GayWiccan'R'US1]

Re: About Wicca.

Truly, you are more pathetic than the atheist who denies God. At least the atheist is consistent, saying that there are NO gods and no magical fantasy worlds. You deny the One True Three-Faced God, with a 6,000-year history, in favor of a made-up "lord and lady", with a 50-year history!!

Actually, witchcraft has been around for far longer than the Christian religion. Even longer than the Jewish religion.

And we do believe in God, that he is the one true creator of everything. He created the Earth and everything in it, heaven, all the angels, archangels, all the spirits who turned against Him who are now the demons in hell, Lucifer, the fallen angel. He created all space and time. He created all the benevolent spirits who hold such great power that they themselves should be worshiped as Gods and Goddesses, because otherwise, God would get all the credit (which in a way he does because He created them).

I just want everyone to live harmoniously without any threats and murders. The only reason why I've come on here is because I read all those sermons on the main website about killing witches and gays and all the stereotypical stuff that you have been led on. So i just wanted to stand up and tell the truth about witchcraft and homosexuality, that it isn't what most people think it is.
So can we just stop this arguing please and we accept who you are, and you accept who we are and just let everyone believe what they want to believe?

[Rev. M. Rodimer]

Re: About Wicca.

Actually, witchcraft has been around for far longer than the Christian religion. Even longer than the Jewish religion.

The Jewish religion started when God created the Earth. Not much is older than that.

I don't suppose you can show us any written documentation or archaeological evidence proving that "witchcraft" existed before God created the universe 6,000 years ago?

Didn't think so.

And we do believe in God, that he is the one true creator of everything. He created the Earth and everything in it, heaven, all the angels, archangels, all the spirits who turned against Him who are now the demons in hell, Lucifer, the fallen angel. He created all space and time.

That much we agree upon.

So why do you deny Him and pray to a "lord and lady" instead?

He created all the benevolent spirits who hold such great power that they themselves should be worshiped as Gods and Goddesses, because otherwise, God would get all the credit (which in a way he does because He created them).

That's the Catholic in you talking, girlie.

Show me where in the Bible God says it's OK to pray to His various creations . . . Would it not make just as much sense for you to pray to yourself, as you are one of His creations?

I just want everyone to live harmoniously without any threats and murders. The only reason why I've come on here is because I read all those sermons on the main website about killing witches and gays and all the stereotypical stuff that you have been led on. So i just wanted to stand up and tell the truth about witchcraft and homosexuality, that it isn't what most people think it is.

And you did that by attacking the Word of God and insulting Christians. Lovely. Very harmonious of you.

Do you deny that the Bible says what it says? We don't care about YOUR opinions about witchcraft and sodomy. We care about GOD'S opinions and commands.

So can we just stop this arguing please and we accept who you are, and you accept who we are and just let everyone believe what they want to believe?

You can believe whatever you like. However, you WILL spend eternity in God's Hell being tortured if you deny Him and persist in your bizarre superstitious nonsense and sodmitious fornications. His Word says so.

It's OUR job as True Christians(tm) to guide you to Jesus by any means necessary, that you NOT spend eternity being tortured in the Lake of Fire God will cast you into. We do this because we don't want you to suffer. You respond with insults and attacks.

Who here is loving, I ask?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: About Wicca.

God created everything, he created life

You made sense up until this point, then it descended into gibberish.

we live in magic

You may live with demons, but we choose to live with Jesus!

who are you to judge us and tell us gays and witches should die

We're commanded as Christians to judge in righteous judgement, and what do we base that judgement on? God's Word. HE said that sodomites and witches should die, we didn't write it.

i worship the gods and goddesses simular way you do 2, we all worship that, so dont you judge what you cant understand OKAY!

You seem to be the one here who can't understand OKAY! For example, you said you worship "the gods and goddesses simular way [we] do 2 [sic]". What you don't understand is that we don't worship gods and goddesses. We worship the ONE TRUE God who is Father, Son, and Holy Ghost in one.

Wicca helped me get over my depression and suicidal self and now I've got a boyfriend who loves me for who I am and I love him and I know that he is always going to be there for me like I will be for him. I know you probably think that it should be frowned upon, but it is just like any other relationship, both straight and gay.

I hope that brings you comfort as the eternal fires of Hell burn at your flesh.

witchcraft saved my life and it will keep saving me

I'm looking forward to forever hearing the anguished cries come from your charred lips eternally screaming "SAVE ME WITCHCRAFT!" but no salvation will come as you can only find that through Jesus and you have until the moment of death to find that salvation.

Actually, witchcraft has been around for far longer than the Christian religion.

Even longer than the Jewish religion.

Christ was present at the beginning of the world 6000 years ago, and Adam and Eve certainly believed in one God. Surely you can't be telling me witchcraft is older than the world and predated Adam and Eve.
And do you mean "witchcraft" or "Wicca", because Wicca barely predates Scientology.

And we do believe in God, that he is the one true creator of everything. He created the Earth and everything in it, heaven, all the angels, archangels, all the spirits who turned against Him who are now the demons in hell, Lucifer, the fallen angel. He created all space and time. He created all the benevolent spirits who hold such great power that they themselves should be worshiped as Gods and Goddesses, because otherwise, God would get all the credit (which in a way he does because He created them).

That's just retarded. You're saying God did all the work, then created other gods and goddesses to get the credit so that He won't, but still let the knowledge get out there that He did it all, but still worship the new gods He created so He doesn't get all the credit that you know He's due.
What's wrong with you?

So i just wanted to stand up and tell the truth about witchcraft and homosexuality

Odd. I haven't read one word from you condemning witchcraft and sodomites as vile sins worthy of death in God's eyes.

So can we just stop this arguing please and we accept who you are, and you accept who we are and just let everyone believe what they want to believe?

We are Bible-believing Christians who see scripture as God's literal and inerrant Word. By coming here and telling us we are wrong, you're doing a very poor job of accepting us for who we are. We do accept you as the hypocrite you are though.

[Tantheus]

Re: About Wicca.

Okay, I live in a different time zone so I'm late with posting. But can't you people even read the message I posted up on the top of page 7. It indeed proves that thre bible isn't something to always follow, it ifs filled with lies, conradictons, and misunderstood (by you people anyway)metaphors.
Some stories in the bible are similair to stories of ohter religions as well.

Example, the Buddah of the major religion called Buddhism (he is never shown naked, he was well-built, not fat and he was Indian) said that the seed of evil is desire and he taught his follows how to discipline themselves so that they would not turn to evil. This principle follows a Greek myth as well called Pandoras box; Pandora was told not to open the forbidden box that would unleash evil and suffering into the universe, but Pandora had a DESIRE to open that box which caused evil to spread across. This is the same with Adam and Eve, which was a metaphor with the exact same principle; Eve had a DESIRE to eat the apple, and that desire unleashed evil into the world.

We've forced you people down so much that now you the only piece of evidence to justify your ridiculous profession about all witches being evil (a few are but most practice good magick. Even the evil ones do not worship Satan) I've already told you about some of the misunderstood things about the bible, now give me some evidence excluding the stuff from your bible that witches are evil. If they really are then their must be some sources since 'sacrificing' would be held in a public area (e.g. STONE HENGE!!!!)

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: About Wicca.

It indeed proves that thre bible isn't something to always follow

Please provide chapter and verse where God tells us we're not to always follow His Word.

If they really are then their must be some sources since 'sacrificing' would be held in a public area (e.g. STONE HENGE!!!!)

Really? Witches must be performing their unholy human sacrifices in public areas? While they are indeed idiots for turning their backs on God, surely even they aren't so retarded as to commit murder in public.

[Tantheus]

Re: About Wicca.

You pathetic fool! Here's some contadrictions that I've now posted up again to show you that the bible isn't something you always follow. I didn't add in its origin last time because I knew it would be blocked out!!

*Next time just link back to your original copy and past of misunderstood and out of context quotes instead of eating up God's bandwidth again*

Now, stop misdirecting the subject like the misguided, deluded, pathetic fools you are, and show me some evidence excluding stuff from the bible that proves that witches are evil!!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: About Wicca.

You pathetic fool! Here's some contadrictions that I've now posted up again to show you that the bible isn't something you always follow. I didn't add in its origin last time because I knew it would be blocked out!!

GE 1:3-5 On the first day, [things that Tantheus does not understand omitted] unfulfilled.

Look, post them one at a time we will do ouir best to show you that there are no contradictions.

The deal is that each one we at Landover dismiss, you donate $10 via the shiny Paypal button. (The Pastor's decision is final.)

So confusing, is it not? Now, stop misdirecting the subject like the misguided, deluded, pathetic fools you are, and show me some evidence excluding stuff from the bible that proves that witches are evil!!

I see no reason at all to exclude the Bible! We are here to include the Bible, not exclude it! How stupid can you be? What if I asked you to prove how good witchcraft is but without referring to Google? You'd be stuck!

Ex:22:18: Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.

De:18:10: There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch,

1Sa:15:23: For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.

2Ki:9:22: And it came to pass, when Joram saw Jehu, that he said, Is it peace, Jehu? And he answered, What peace, so long as the whoredoms of thy mother Jezebel and her witchcrafts are so many?

2Ch:33:6: And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger.

Mic:5:12: And I will cut off witchcrafts out of thine hand; and thou shalt have no more soothsayers:

Na:3:4: Because of the multitude of the whoredoms of the wellfavoured harlot, the mistress of witchcrafts, that selleth nations through her whoredoms, and families through her witchcrafts.

OK?

Seek The Lord and REPENT!

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: About Wicca.

OK, using your only source of information, I Googled for bad witches. There were thousands of hits Here is news of some witches in Ghana. Now are you telling me that 5 Million jigaboos are wrong? Are you suggesting that the nigra in his native habitat is less intelligent than a white man? Are you seriously saying that tarbabies’ experiences are worth Jack-Shit? Are you some sort of White Supremacist? We’ll have none of your type here! Read on -

Asara Azindow used to have a life of independence and relative comfort. She owned her own home and her own business, a restaurant. When a meningitis epidemic broke out in her village, she was accused of causing the epidemic through witchcraft. Her business and home were looted and destroyed and the only safe haven for Asara was a witch camp. […]

Awabu Tamara is also an inhabitant of one of the witch camps. When the son of a relative became ill, Awabu’s witchery was blamed. When she refused to “admit” to being a witch, she was tied to a log and tortured for three months with beatings and whippings. A witch camp was the only place that could provide her with safety.

There are about a thousand women in northern Ghana inhabiting camps whose sole occupants are […] witches. Many, if not most, of the women are elderly.

How has this come about? Two reasons; religious and economic.

Ghana is a religiously diverse and reasonably tolerant country. It numbers amongst is inhabitants Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus and many others, including adherents to traditionally indigenous religions. Within the indigenous religions are the beliefs in multiple gods, reincarnation, and witchcraft. When tragedy or hardship hits a family or village, it is often considered to be the result of sorcery.

“In African traditional religions, there must be a reason why something happens to you, especially when it is bad. People see human beings as channels through which these unfavourable things can be introduced into the community”.

A few years back an outbreak of cerebral-spinal-meningitis resulted in five elderly women being beaten to death when villagers accused them of causing the disease. Anyone accused of witchery knows that her only hope of survival is to leave her village immediately. Banishment is forever.

[…]When a Ghanaian woman becomes a widow, she is in danger of having one of her relatives, particularly a male relative, denounce her as a witch. If the relative does not want to be burdened with taking economic care of the old woman, or if the widowed woman has a home or possessions, all that needs to be done is to declare that the old woman was the cause a family woe. A man says his mother-in-law caused a relative’s illness, the mother-in-law is run out of the village, and her son-in-law promptly takes possession of her home and belongings.

Surveys done within the witch camps indicate that the older a woman becomes, the more likely she is to be declared a witch. […] Once she is in a witch camp, a woman is there forever. Recently, 100 women were released from their witch camp and were told they were free to return to their communities. Even though many of them had lived in the camp for the majority of their adult lives, every one of the women refused to leave the camp. They had no confidence that they would be safe anywhere else.

Within each camp is usually a tribal priest who exorcises each women upon arrival to dispel the evil spirits. But this doesn’t seem to carry much weight with the people of her village. There are laws in Ghana that forbid banishment and rituals that violate human rights, but no one has even been known to be been charged, let alone convicted, of accusing a woman of witchcraft. […]

[Tantheus]

Re: About Wicca.

The Magickal Witches Creed

*Demonic "scripture" deleted because there could be impressionable children reading this!*

I don't see any Satanic mentioning in that? Do you see any Satanic mentioning in that? Because I most certainly don't! And anohter thing...Google was not created when the Witches Creed was!!!! As for those contradictions, just pick out any and try to prove that they are not. P.S. you'll see there that the horned God is Lord of the Shades - he is. But shades means mystery in that. One more thing as well. If you people block this message out then that is an utter sign of weakness!! And if they don't block it out, then I just can't wait (sarcasm) for you people to say "Oh, well they didn't block it out, so they obviously aren't weak" I've had them block things out in the past! I don't really hate you guys (the Pastor maybe) I'm just trying to fulfill what every sorcerer should: spread compassion and enchantment throughout the universe and beyond.

[Bob4God]

Re: About Wicca.

Tantheus,

That's all just a bunch of mythical nonsense and made up gods to keep people's minds occupied. Why don't you do something useful with your life, like living it to the glory of the ONE TRUE GOD?

[Mrs. Mary Whitford]

Re: About Wicca.

Blah blah rant rave

We're already aware of the Heretic Traps, thank you very much.

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=3717