[LittleMissV]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

why call him?,after all there is a bible for all your answers .what more could you tell him besides what's written in the bible

Maybe he could call him and recite the good old KJV, if that's what this technopagan needs

[panzel]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

Maybe he could call him and recite the good old KJV, if that's what this technopagan needs

Sorry, I'm not having anything in common with technopaganism. You missed my point.

[dumenzoNpula]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

I just hate seeing an opportunity to save a heathen. This person needs jesus in their life. In fact, Panzel, what's your adress? I think I'll fly to you and read the bible aloud to you.

manderson,there is no need to HATE, his just confused i'm sure he can be saved if he is on this forum that means he is admitting his problems, he just need to go to the church more often am read the bible

[panzel]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

So god created us, but who created god? how did he appear?

[panzel]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

You're right. Lord forgive me for speaking with haste. I let my emotions get the better of me. I love you Penzel.

Sorry for making you angry manderso. I don't want your god to get angry at you because of my ignorance, if you will. I just can't understand some things...

[Jed_Cassidy]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

So god created us, but who created god? how did he appear?

Hold on there, son. Just calm down. Take some deep breaths, have your wife go and make you your favorite pie (mine's pecan, FYI ). Once you have had a slice and downed it with a nice glass milk, why don't you sit down for a while with the KJV 1611 and read it cover to cover. Once you've finished, get a good night's rest, and then come back and talk to us.

[panzel]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

I am calm. Couldn't you just try and answer my question. I know it's quite unacceptable for you to even consider something like that, but please try.

[eliot mayfield]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

So god created us, but who created god? how did he appear?

First work on your this:

http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=12734&highlight=capitalize

When you grasp that concept, we can move on to more difficult to understand themes.

[Jed_Cassidy]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

I am calm. Couldn't you just try and answer my question. I know it's quite unacceptable for you to even consider something like that, but please try.

Ok boy, now you're starting to cross the line. A suspect Pastor Ezekiel is warming up the ban-o-matic.

[panzel]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

If this is the way you're trying to save somebody, by silencing him, I can't find any resemblance of what I perceive as humanity here. I was just looking for rational answers, which it seems that are hard to get around here.

[LittleMissV]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

We are not trying to Save® anyone, this is merely a forum for worship

[panzel]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

How about "Guaranteeing salvation since 1620" then?

[GOD=life]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

Couldn't you just try and answer my question.

Your argument is a well-known atheist one. It goes like this: "If nothing can come out of nothing and everything must have been created, then God must have a creator too. And the creator of God must also have one. Thus there is an infinite stack of creators, which is impossible. Thus, logically, God cannot exist."

The standard answer to this is that God has always existed without a beginning and without an end, not subject to the laws of the material universe or logic that rule the mechanics of the universe.

Christians do not believe in a finite God, thus an infinite stack of creators would not be a logical issue, even if we agreed that logic is valid outside the universe as well.

Although on the surface it is an interesting angle, it will not work with Christians as it requires a finite God and an extrapolation of logic beyond the bounds of the universe.

In physics and any other scientific discipline where mathematical formulas are used to model physical reality, they each come with their own set of conditions where they are accurate. Newtonian Physics, for example, is very accurate for most situations. But as soon as the speed approaches the speed of light, the situation changes entirely. In fact, we get into a state where your mass increases and your time decreases as your speed increases. How weird and counter-intuitive is that?

Similarly, we can argue: why would we expect logic that works on Earth also work under completely different conditions? In a sense, we would have to expect the unexpected in this regard as it would follow the same pattern.

This does not prove existence or non-existence of a God, but may help understand why seemingly straightforward logic is not that inescapable when we extrapolate to a cosmic scale (and beyond).

[LittleMissV]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

How about "Guaranteeing salvation since 1620" then?

That's our Church, not this forum. For guidance, please contact Pastor Ezekiel (Pastor Zeke)

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: what's wrong with you people?

I am calm. Couldn't you just try and answer my question. I know it's quite unacceptable for you to even consider something like that, but please try.

Are you willing to read the Bible? I think I can even find an online copy for you. If not, then why should we waste our time talkign to you?