[GOD=life]

Re: Good evening

That's nice.

If that's an example of an intelligent argument, I'd rather have the stupid version...

If you want to learn about God, then simply open the KJV 1611 Bible at page 1 and don't finish until you reach the end.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Good evening

God did in fact author the KJV Bible. Here it is explained in Christian comic book form.

If you're up to it, I'd like to see you read my sermon on the subject HERE.

[True Disciple]

Re: Good evening

NOTE: Extreme here is used to indicate severity. You take it word-for-word, which is the extreme, as opposed to not listening at all (the other extreme) or interpreting the Bible (the middle).

What is there to interpret in the Bible? It's as crystal clear as it reads! And remember, there is no middle way in following Jesus' Word(tm):

Matthew 12:30:
He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.

Mostly because most of your members are quick to label non-believers as trolls. That's all.

That's because they often behave as trolls. Atheists and other God-deniers aren't generally known for their moral behaviour, as they have no moral guide:

Psalm 53:1:
The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Corrupt are they, and have done abominable iniquity: there is none that doeth good.

Thus, yes, they wrote about their experience with God. However, man wrote the Bible. Given, a good chunk of it was Jewish theologians, but there were portions written by men ranging from fishermen to kings. Once again, not God.

Don't nitpick. Read the post word-for-word. There's a reason the different books in the Bible have names in them. PEOPLE wrote them.

God is omnipotent, and He wants that His Word(tm) reaches His Children(tm) in the form that He wants it to be. After all:

2 Timothy 3:16:
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

I would think that, if God wants us to use the Bible this way, He will make sure there are no errors in it. This is why the Bible (KJV) is infallible.

Anyway, welcome on our True Christian(tm) forum. I pray that you will open your heart for the uncompromised Message of the Bible.

[Cranky Old Man]

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There's a reason the different books in the Bible have names in them. PEOPLE wrote them.

Yes, but those people where possessed by the Holy Spirit so it's still God's word.

To use an analogy, is it your keyboard or you who is writing your posts?

[Jonathan Edwards]

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Yes, but those people where possessed by the Holy Spirit so it's still God's word.

To use an analogy, is it your keyboard or you who is writing your posts

Doesn't make a difference. There is no proof of the existence of the 'Holy Spirit'. More likely one of two things happened:
1. They were on some hallucinogen, likely one of the many that came from fungi that infected wheat back then, or
2. They lied!

You're under the 'infallible' assumption that the Bible was written by God, and why? Because it says so! It's like me writing a book that says I'm God. Just because I wrote it there, does it make it true? It's a circular argument.

That's because they often behave as trolls. Atheists and other God-deniers aren't generally known for their moral behaviour, as they have no moral guide:

In my opinion, morals are much less important than ethics. Morals tend to have no logical reasoning behind them.

If that's an example of an intelligent argument, I'd rather have the stupid version...

If you want to learn about God, then simply open the KJV 1611 Bible at page 1 and don't finish until you reach the end.

I'd rather not waste my time with such a pointless endeavor. The Bible has been retranslated so many times, I'm not about to read your wording of it.

[GOD=life]

Re: Good evening

Can you at least admit that you lied about being Christian?

[True Disciple]

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Doesn't make a difference. There is no proof of the existence of the 'Holy Spirit'. More likely one of two things happened:
1. They were on some hallucinogen, likely one of the many that came from fungi that infected wheat back then, or
2. They lied!

You're under the 'infallible' assumption that the Bible was written by God, and why? Because it says so! It's like me writing a book that says I'm God. Just because I wrote it there, does it make it true? It's a circular argument.

My friend, I already explained this:

God is omnipotent, and He wants that His Word™ reaches His Children™ in the form that He wants it to be. After all:

2 Timothy 3:16:
All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness

I would think that, if God wants us to use the Bible this way, He will make sure there are no errors in it. This is why the Bible (KJV) is infallible.

Anyway, welcome on our True Christian™ forum. I pray that you will open your heart for the uncompromised Message of the Bible.

In my opinion, morals are much less important than ethics. Morals tend to have no logical reasoning behind them.

Ethical is defined here as "how the Bible says we should behave." That's the same as moral.
If you disagree, how do you define ethical, then? I mean, God created everything, also morals and ethics. I would think He would be rather an authority on these subjects then, wouldn't He?

[Pastor Ezekiel]

Re: Good evening

I'd rather not waste my time with such a pointless endeavor. The Bible has been retranslated so many times, I'm not about to read your wording of it.

In that case you are wasting our time and God's precious bandwidth.

Not that a busy Godmocker like you would be interested, but I have a sermon on the subject HERE that explains clearly how to tell which Bible version is the one TRUE Word of God.

[GOD=life]

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This guy is a strange one... he changes religion every couple of posts.

But rest assured that he's not here to attack our little irrational beliefs, he's just here to tell us that the Bible is written by imbeciles on drugs and that God does not exist

[Jonathan Edwards]

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My friend, I already explained this:





Ethical is defined here as "how the Bible says we should behave." That's the same as moral.
If you disagree, how do you define ethical, then? I mean, God created everything, also morals and ethics. I would think He would be rather an authority on these subjects then, wouldn't He?

It's still an assumption. You're assuming God exists. It's true, I'm not very much of a Christian. I believe it's partially true, and thus give it as much attention and importance. But even then, I don't go to the extreme of telling people that they don't have rights and telling everyone they're going to hell.

And as for the second part, what you described there is more or less morals. I define 'ethical' as correct. I feel that as long as no one or nothing is being hurt by one's actions, it's ethical. Thus, I don't have a major problem with other religions, or with homosexuals and the like. But of course, that's so wrong, no?

[Cranky Old Man]

Re: Good evening

Doesn't make a difference. There is no proof of the existence of the 'Holy Spirit'.

Of course there is. It's in the Holy Bible.

You're under the 'infallible' assumption that the Bible was written by God

No it was written by people. There's a reason the different books in the Bible have names in them. God just made sure they did it the way he wanted it to be.

It's like me writing a book that says I'm God.

You would fail. Your book would be filled with inconsistencies and mistakes in logic, important aspects of life and the meaning of life would be missing. Only God himself could have written a book that covers everything in a consistent and logical way. No human could ever match that. But feel free to try anyway.

The Bible has been retranslated so many times, I'm not about to read your wording of it.

The KJV1611 is not his version, it is His version! Unlike many other versions it's translation is far more accurate. But I think you are only pretending to be interested in this. If you would be really interested you would already have known about KJV1611 and you would have read it already.

[Jonathan Edwards]

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Of course there is. It's in the Holy Bible.

No it was written by people. There's a reason the different books in the Bible have names in them. God just made sure they did it the way he wanted it to be.

You would fail. Your book would be filled with inconsistencies and mistakes in logic, important aspects of life and the meaning of life would be missing. Only God himself could have written a book that covers everything in a consistent and logical way. No human could ever match that. But feel free to try anyway.

The KJV1611 is not his version, it is His version! Unlike many other versions it's translation is far more accurate. But I think you are only pretending to be interested in this. If you would be really interested you would already have known about KJV1611 and you would have read it already.

Oh, alright, you believe it was 'created' by God and written through people. Point is, your proof for God's existence is the Bible, which isn't much proof; It's just as likely to be a giant collaboration of false truths by many men.

[GOD=life]

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I repeat: can you at least admit that you lied about being a Christian?

I know atheists have few morals, but come on...

[Cranky Old Man]

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I'm Christian.

Oh, alright, you believe it was 'created' by God and written through people. Point is, your proof for God's existence is the Bible, which isn't much proof; It's just as likely to be a giant collaboration of false truths by many men.

You claim to be a Christian, so that means there are at least parts of the Bible you believe in. If that is the case then why do you think all those other parts of the Bible exists? If you believe in Christ, how then can you believe He would allow false information about Him to be in His Bible? Don't you think God, being powerful enough to create everything, would be able to make sure His Bible is correct?

[GOD=life]

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But I think you are only pretending to be interested in this.

I'm going to have to agree with you, Brother. This chap is not looking to learn but to lecture us Christians. The questions are already answered in the rules and announcements section of this forum.

Frankly, I have heard much more intelligent atheist arguments... perhaps one of us should argue on his behalf as he's not doing a very good job.