[Sister Charli]

Re: Hi there friends

Like I said (and I stand by what I say) many Australian Catlicks are praying to Mary McKillop (do a google if you have not heard of her) so that they can prove a miracle and have her receive a sainthood.

Here at LBC we believe that God is the only one to perform miracles. Not dead Australian women!

I tell you again, no one prays to Mary McKillop. They might pray through her, but not to her. And that is no different from asking your pastor or a church elder to pray for you. We Catholics also believe that only God can perform miracles.

Source:

QUOTE:
In 2003, the Sisters of St Joseph prayed to her to help save Sydney toddler Sophie Delezio, who suffered horrific burns and lost both feet when a car crashed into her childcare centre. She was later hit by a car in a separate accident.

The family of David Keohane, an Irish backpacker who was assaulted in Coogee in 2008, also prayed to MacKillop. This year the 29-year-old emerged from a seven-month coma.

IN THE mid-1990s, a Hunter Valley woman suffering from terminal cancer was sent home from hospital by her doctors to die. The mother of five had inoperable lung cancer and secondary cancer of the brain. All hope was lost, but she and her family prayed constantly to Mary MacKillop, along with sisters of the Josephite Order.
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[The Cantabrian]

Re: Hi there friends

That was the media report which said those things. True catholics would never claim to pray to anyone except God.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hi there friends

That was the media report which said those things. True catholics would never claim to pray to anyone except God.

So.. you are telling us that you never get down on your knees and Pray to Mary Magdalene either?

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Hi there friends

That was the media report which said those things. True catholics would never claim to pray to anyone except God.

From your own catechism:

2675 Beginning with Mary's unique cooperation with the working of the Holy Spirit, the Churches developed their prayer to the holy Mother of God, centering it on the person of Christ manifested in his mysteries. In countless hymns and antiphons expressing this prayer, two movements usually alternate with one another: the first "magnifies" the Lord for the "great things" he did for his lowly servant and through her for all human beings29 the second entrusts the supplications and praises of the children of God to the Mother of Jesus, because she now knows the humanity which, in her, the Son of God espoused.

2676 This twofold movement of prayer to Mary has found a privileged expression in the Ave Maria: (blasphemous "Hail Mary" prayer snipped)

2679 Mary is the perfect Orans (pray-er), a figure of the Church. When we pray to her, we are adhering with her to the plan of the Father, who sends his Son to save all men. Like the beloved disciple we welcome Jesus' mother into our homes,39 for she has become the mother of all the living. We can pray with and to her. The prayer of the Church is sustained by the prayer of Mary and united with it in hope.40

Either the people who wrote the Roman institution's catechism weren't true Catholics, or you need a refresher course in your own religion.

[Martha Whinippley]

Re: Hi there friends

how can you be so judgemental just cause hes catholic dont mean hes gay or a cheater, sick man

[Levi Jones]

Re: Hi there friends

We can pray with and to her.

Oh my, Pastor Peters. I believe that would be check and mate.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Hi there friends

how can you be so judgemental just cause hes catholic dont mean hes gay or a cheater, sick man

I believe we were merely showing him the error of his pedophilic supporting ways using the Bible and the catechism.

Who are you? Did satan send you here to defend this papist? Have you introduced yourself yet?

[The Cantabrian]

Re: Hi there friends

From your own catechism:

2675 Beginning with Mary's unique cooperation with the working of the Holy Spirit, the Churches developed their prayer to the holy Mother of God, centering it on the person of Christ manifested in his mysteries. In countless hymns and antiphons expressing this prayer, two movements usually alternate with one another: the first "magnifies" the Lord for the "great things" he did for his lowly servant and through her for all human beings29 the second entrusts the supplications and praises of the children of God to the Mother of Jesus, because she now knows the humanity which, in her, the Son of God espoused.

2676 This twofold movement of prayer to Mary has found a privileged expression in the Ave Maria: (blasphemous "Hail Mary" prayer snipped)

2679 Mary is the perfect Orans (pray-er), a figure of the Church. When we pray to her, we are adhering with her to the plan of the Father, who sends his Son to save all men. Like the beloved disciple we welcome Jesus' mother into our homes,39 for she has become the mother of all the living. We can pray with and to her. The prayer of the Church is sustained by the prayer of Mary and united with it in hope.40

Either the people who wrote the Roman institution's catechism weren't true Catholics, or you need a refresher course in your own religion.

Sorry, but you are mistranslating it. No catholic prays to Mary.

[BelieverInGod]

Re: Hi there friends

Sorry, but you are mistranslating it. No catholic prays to Mary.

How exactly is he mistranslating something that is written on the Vatican's own website? Did you check the link?

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hi there friends

Sorry, but you are mistranslating it. No catholic prays to Mary.

See, this goes back to the beginning of this thread, This papist only reads what he wants and blindly ignores the rest, Exactly what the catlick Church does when one of its' 'inner circle' rapes a child, they stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalalala".

[Pastor Isaac Peters]

Re: Hi there friends

Sorry, but you are mistranslating it. No catholic prays to Mary.

You plainly don't understand your own religion. The upside is that you'll have that much less to unlearn when you convert to True Christianity™.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hi there friends

You plainly don't understand your own religion. The upside is that you'll have that much less to unlearn when you convert to True Christianity™.

Pastor, you have such a wonderful way with words.

[The Cantabrian]

Re: Hi there friends

You can quote words at me all you like, but I am TELLING you what they MEAN.

Catholic ask the Blessed Virgin and the saints to intercede for them before Jesus, just as you guys ask your pastor to do.

We do not pray to her in the sense that we pray to God. I would not use the term "pray" at all, and I have tonight emailed the Vatican advising this to be changed so that rednecks can understand how the one true church praises Jesus.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Hi there friends

You can quote words at me all you like, but I am TELLING you what they MEAN.

Catholic ask the Blessed Virgin and the saints to intercede for them before Jesus, just as you guys ask your pastor to do.

We do not pray to her in the sense that we pray to God. I would not use the term "pray" at all, and I have tonight emailed the Vatican advising this to be changed so that rednecks can understand how the one true church praises Jesus.

Then why does the catechism from your own church website say that you pray to her?

Between that and the none of Jesus' disciples were married howler, you are not making a very good case for cataholism.

[James Hutchins]

Re: Hi there friends

Well Brian, that makes sense. If the pope had the words in the catlick 'Bible' wrong, of course catlick rednecks will have a hard time understanding it. Thank goodness at least one catlick (that is you, Brian the liar) knows the true meaning.