[MitzaLizalor]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Let's be BFFS.

Landover Baptist is a Church board: perverts have no place here.

[DorkHawk]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Landover Baptist is a Church board: perverts have no place here.

I find that quite ironic.

[barton]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I find that quite ironic.

Yes, it's ironic that you continue to post here, despite the admonition at the top of every page that you, the unsaved, are unwelcome here!

Do you have a purpose here? Is is merely to mock God? If you truly wish to learn about God's Plan for your life and how you can be Saved, please introduce yourself properly in your own thread:

The introduction forum Here is where you introduce yourself. Tell us what church you go to and what your favorite Bible verse is and how you came to find Jesus.

[TC Patriot]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I'm homosexual, Athiest, and have a PHD in Astrophysics (although I know you have no idea what that is.)

So, nice to meet you all, however much I know I will get flamed.

Next up! Now we've done the introduction I have a question for you all.

PROVE the existence of God WITHOUT referencing the Bible. The Bible, as important as it is, carries absolutly NO PROOF OF GOD TO ME WHATSOEVER. Anyone trying to quote the Bible will be promptly ignored.
Then, if you manage to do that:
-prove to me without use of the bible that the earth is flat.

And finally, the biggest question of all....
..If the devil can speak to people the same way God can, how can you know that Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not actually hearing Satan's words and mistaking them for Gods?

ANSWER ALL MY QUESTIONS WITHOUT REFERENCING THE BIBLE AT ALL. This will be a challenge for you, I know.

[Billy Bob Jenkins]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

god hates me for being gay,

God would not allow the Bible to be published if it misrepresented Him and misinformed well meaning aspirants to the Christian faith. That's how we know that God wrote the Bible and hates homosexuals.

Let's get down to the real question: why do you love anally raping children (i.e. the faggot deathstyle) more than you love God?

[ACdestinydream]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Lets cut short the introduction I will need to post. Lets cut short those bullshit that an atheist will post. Instead, let me present you with me logic.

How many times have we, as Atheists, been asked to prove that god does not exist? This is known as “Proving a Negative”, also known as an “Argument from Ignorance”. Essentially, it is a logical fallacy in that a claimed premise is deemed true only because it has not been proven false. This is one of the most common retorts I get when debating a believer and it is also one of the most difficult to explain to them because they just cannot grasp the utter ridiculousness of their request. Do invisible pink unicorns exist simply because they have not been proven not to? The burden of proof always lies with the person who is making the claim, and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. When someone tells me that god exists, I ask them to prove it with real, empirical evidence. But yet they continue to ask us to prove that god does not exist, so let’s have a go at it, shall we?
Let’s start off with a basic definition of Christianity. No matter how the Christian tries to make their beliefs seem scientific, logical and perfectly acceptable, one cannot ignore the reality that their beliefs can best be summed up as little more than the currently-circulating description that states, “Christianity is believing that a cosmic Jewish zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree”.
According to Christianity, god exists and he is perfect. An imperfect god cannot exist, so if we can prove that god is not perfect, then, by default, we can prove that he does not exist and the entire house of cards that is Christianity collapses. We can know that god is not perfect, and therefore not exist because be screwed up so bad that even trying to hide his imperfection is impossible. Christianity teaches that creation was perfect because it was fashioned by a perfect god, and it remained so until the “fall of man” occurred in the garden of Eden. This begs the question of why god felt the need to create anything in the first place. The need to create results from a perceived lack of balance between what is and what should be. So, what disturbed god’s perfection and compelled him to create? If god is presumably perfect, then he would have been complete and in need of nothing. Conventional Christian “wisdom” teaches that god created us because he desires our worship. Well, desire results from need, and need connotes lack, and lack connotes imperfection. This is where the existence of the Christian god becomes impossible, because perfection cannot exist as long as there is need, want or desire. A god who is perfect does nothing except exist and thus, a perfect god who creates anything is not perfect.
Of course, a favorite amongst Christians is the imbecilic answer of “his ways are higher”, which is not only the height of ignorance, but shows a lack of reason so profound that all you really can do is just shake your head in disbelief. What it comes down to is that an allegedly perfect god created a perfect universe which was rendered imperfect by his creation, humans. Thusly, the ultimate source of imperfection is god himself. An imperfect humanity could have only been created by an imperfect god and Christianity does not allow for an imperfect god, so thus, god does not exist. He is a logical fallacy unto himself.
This is, indeed, a paradox of monumental proportions for Christians, and has spawned a plethora of Christian colleges, universities and think tanks all for the purpose of trying to figure this all out. The best they can come up with is the concept of “free will”, which basically states that human imperfection is only a byproduct of our capacity as free moral agents. That’s all good and well, but the concept was doomed to fail from the start. Adam and Eve used their free will to choose evil, which was a design flaw and if we are to believe in intelligent design, then creating something that is broken does not make god intelligent at all. It was this flaw in god’s design that was responsible for the introduction of imperfection into his previously perfect universe. Another proof of imperfection, thus another proof that god does not exist.
To make matters worse, god knew that Adam and Eve were going to totally fuck everything up for the rest of humanity and did nothing about it, in spite of hearing screams of the damned. No, this perfect, all-compassionate, all-loving god went ahead with his plan anyway, knowing that billions of humans would end up eternally damned to hell. Nothing screams compassion louder than eternal suffering for temporal sins… Of course, eternal damnation is avoidable as long as one accepts Jesus as lord and savior. However, salvation is only necessary because the problem of sin was brought on by god in the first place. The need for salvation is incompatible with a perfect god because if god were perfectly just, he would not dole out infinite punishment for finite sins. The fact that the best god could do was offer up human sacrifice as a solution to his design flawed humanity is further proof that he is imperfect, and thus does not exist.
Another proof that god is not perfect is the venue that he chose to communicate with his imperfect creation – the Bible. Avoiding eternal punishment by knowing and believing in Christ is wonderful if you have access to a bible. However, there are billions of people in the past, present and future all over the planet in remote areas who have never heard of nor will likely never hear of Jesus Christ or his “gospel of salvation”. According to Christian theology, all of these people are doomed to eternal punishment – regardless of their generosity, kindness, morality, ethics or disposition – because they have not accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Lord and Savior. Without access to the Bible, they are being punished for committing a crime they had no idea even existed. A god that would judge a man by his beliefs rather than his actions is imperfect, and thus does not exist.
So, how does god combat the problem of the shortage of bibles in every language known to humanity and the equal shortage of Christian bookstores in the Amazon jungle and other remote places where there isn’t even a Starbuck’s? Happy feet! Yes, happy are the feet that bring the gospel of the good news of Jesus Christ to the world, right? And who do these feet belong to? None other than the most destructive groups of people ever to walk the face of the earth. Missionaries. They have destroyed whole cultures and have stolen entire countries from their indigenous inhabitants. If you don’t believe me, just ask any Native American. Missionaries believe that their job is to bring the “word of god” to the savage masses, savage meaning anyone who does not believe like they do.
The problem is that like the imperfect Christian god, the bible is also imperfect. It is indecipherable fusion of books that contain so many errors, contradictions, misinformation and ignorance beyond any standards of logic and reason that it boggles the mind that it’s even taken seriously. It is a poor excuse for the supposedly perfect word of god. The fact that no two individuals will ever agree on what the bible says in it’s entirety makes it suspect. A imperfect god who reveals his imperfect will in an imperfect book is another proof that god does not exist.
Another interesting point to note is that according to Christianity, god experiences all of the emotions of a human being. What they fail to understand is that emotion is a response to something previously unknown. A perfect god who is omniscient god would be ignorant of nothing. Nothing would be hidden from him and nothing can be revealed, thus there would be no need to act emotionally. Thus, he is not all knowing. Another point to ponder as to why god cannot exist.
Yet, two billion people still stubbornly insist that there is a god and he is watching us all the time, which should make them uncomfortable, to say the least. Is he casting his watchful eye over us as we take a shit? Does he watch us have sex? Masturbate? Pick our noses? Scratch our asses? Does he listen into our phone conversations? Read our email? God is everywhere? Is he up our asses? Please, when will people realize just how illogical and unreasonable the whole god thing is and come to the place in their lives when they finally realize that there is no god?
Deities were invented at the dawn of time and persisted throughout our history to explain what was unexplainable in the early years of our development. The culmination of human knowledge and intelligence has answered many questions with certainty that were unknown even up until very recently. We no longer need to rely on ancient superstitions to explain weather patterns, genetics, biology and other life sciences. We no longer need to make sacrifices or live a life if credulous servility to appease an angry god so he allows our crops to grow or to keep sickness at bay or any one of a plethora of other superstitions. The concept of god is one that is passed and no longer needed. Humans are more than capable of moral behavior, altruistic actions, inner peace and happiness on our own. We have a choice to make. We can choose to do what is right regardless of what religion tells us, or we can do what religion tells us, regardless if it is right. The former is the choice that will allow our species to evolve. The latter can only result in our annihilation. Think about it…

[Lisa H]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Lets cut short the introduction I will need to post. Lets cut short those bullshit that an atheist will post. Instead, let me present you with me logic.

...

At first I started to read your comment, then I realized I have read it before. I hope you have paid Al Stefanelli for using his material posted on this website. You know God does not like people who steal.

[Yea-tho-we-walk]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

ACdestinydream, I believe thou was a bit hasty with thy lengthy post. Perhaps you should linger and read a bit more before passing judgement on the Godly Christians here. Perhaps if you were to listen to a few of Deacon Freds sixty second sermons, you may truly 'see the light'.

http://www.landoverbaptist.org/60second/

[ACdestinydream]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I saw the light: this forum is filled with sacarstic, non-logical people. I, my self who is a christian, is disgraced by your forums and so called 'godly acts'. Yeah, sell your wives and daughters away while I laugh at your stupidity.

[ACdestinydream]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

and to reply to lisa's post, I did not steal. The website or the material itself is not trademarked, or copyrighted. This means that anyone can use this as their material anytime they would like to.

[Lycia The Repentant]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

I saw the light: this forum is filled with sacarstic, non-logical people. I, my self who is a christian, is disgraced by your forums and so called 'godly acts'. Yeah, sell your wives and daughters away while I laugh at your stupidity.

Friend, if you're a Christian then you need to stop plagiarizing atheist rants and learn what the Bible REALLY says and start following it to the LETTER. Its the only way to obtain Salvation©!

[Lisa H]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

and to reply to lisa's post, I did not steal. The website or the material itself is not trademarked, or copyrighted. This means that anyone can use this as their material anytime they would like to.

Could explain why the wordpress.com TOS & Copyright (Content Theft – What to Do) say the opposite.

[ACdestinydream]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

Could explain why the wordpress.com TOS & Copyright (Content Theft – What to Do) say the opposite.

Could explain what will they do to us who takes from their website.

If you see a link that reads “Blog at WordPress.com” in the footer of the blog (linked to http://wordpress.com), this normally means that it is hosted here (although external blogs may place this in the footer, if they choose to). Also, if you are logged into WordPress.com, you will see your gray-colored admin bar at the top of your screen. If this is, in fact, the case, you may submit a formal DMCA notice at the following address by following the instructions at the following URL.

And then....

1. The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes -- Courts are more likely to find fair use where the use is for noncommercial purposes.

This proves that they cannot, whatever they do, to make me take it down as it is for educating stupid christians who fail to understand how the world works is stubborn about the fact that God made everything.

[Gabriel Reproba]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

When you posted your rant, you started by saying:

Lets cut short those bullshit that an atheist will post. Instead, let me present you with me [sic] logic.

You presented this as YOUR work. You then admit it is NOT yours:

and to reply to lisa's post, I did not steal. The website or the material itself is not trademarked, or copyrighted. This means that anyone can use this as their material anytime they would like to.

While you CAN use the material, the act of presenting other people's work as yours, whether it under copyright or not, is the definition of plagiarism. If you were a professor, you would be fire for this type of act.

[ACdestinydream]

Re: You People Are Going To Hate Me.

The bible teaches me to believe in myself and in God, but not in all your false comments and things against the society.