[Sylvester]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

King James received Godly inspiration to write the correct version of God's Word. It really doesn't matter what the Hebrew, Greek, or papists said. KJV1611 is Perfect.

Said he. I once had a Godly inspiration, but not being a King, I was considered a heathen! ;-)

King James modified the Bible to make it more accurate, that's true. It is considered by many a scholar to be more accurate a translation than previous publishings. However, it was also "oriented" toward the Church of England, which was falsely started by King Henry VIII. This is not only apparent, but documented.

[Levi Jones]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Said he. I once had a Godly inspiration, but not being a King, I was considered a heathen! ;-)

King James modified the Bible to make it more accurate, that's true. It is considered by many a scholar to be more accurate a translation than previous publishings. However, it was also "oriented" toward the Church of England, which was falsely started by King Henry VIII. This is not only apparent, but documented.

I'm just as guilty as you are of this, but this is a discussion about Wicca not catlicks.

We have you posting about catlicks in a thread about wicca.

And we have someone posting about wicca in a thread about catlicks.

Could you two possibly switch places?

[Robert Hutchins]

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Yes, 76%. You are a dying breed, it seems.

For information on your bible, see here. Strange that you should follow a bible written by a made up Christian denomination that existed only so that King Henry VIII could get divorced.

As for 200 times the amount of text, absolutely. The Catholics own a library that is extremely vast. Much of the texts are from varying periods throughout the Christian history but have not been included for reasons known only to them. I do take back my comment about the bible being compiled by Catholics as that's not a fully true statement. Fact is, the bible has been slowly compiled by numerous groups over a couple of thousand years (about c220 to around 500 years ago). The Catholics played a huge part in the shaping of the bible in the latter days (including removing texts) and, yes, they do now possess most of the texts pertaining to Christian history.

As for forcing my unsaved opinion, I am not. I wouldn't force any opinion. You're all free to live your lives as you see fit. I was merely aiming to open minds. Any Christian choosing to close themselves off from further knowledge is a poor Christian indeed, for their choices are not educated. If you choose to be Christian and tell everyone they're wrong, at least have the knowledge to back it up. Saying "I know it's true because God tells me so" just doesn't cut it.

I'd like to start of by saying that you linked to Wikipedia, where anyone can claim a "fact."

Also, 200 times? Really? You must be including those books written after the apostolic age, the ones heretics wrote to secure their vile, vain place in history.

You can argue all you want, but God knows His own, and, come judgement, you will regret these words.

[Sylvester]

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I'd like to start of by saying that you linked to Wikipedia, where anyone can claim a "fact."

That's true, but that's not the original place I heard this fact. I actually acquired the knowledge from "The God Delusion", and Richard Dawkins, right or wrong, does his research!

Also, 200 times? Really? You must be including those books written after the apostolic age, the ones heretics wrote to secure their vile, vain place in history.

Whomever wrote them, the Catholics have kept them, so they must hold value. No one can deny that the Bible isn't a complete works. It is missing information. There's nothing really wrong with that, but I for one don't like censorship.

You can argue all you want, but God knows His own, and, come judgement, you will regret these words.

No, I won't. Just as you truly believe that you know beyond all doubt that what you think is true, I believe so, also. Judgement Day is not a day before a greater being where it is decided if one would go to heaven or hell. Judgement Day is more real than that. Oh, I definitely believe that Judgement Day is real. It is the day when no person can decide their fate and all must unite to save our existence from ourselves.

Comment all you want, but all you're doing is forsaking your responsibility to others with selfish desperation for yourself. That's not salvation, that's arrogant ignorant cowardice!

[wanderingspectator]

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I may be new, but please, hear me out.
In our world of sin, there are always those who choose the wide path over the narrow one. And although we implore them to accept the gift that our Creator offers, there will inevitably be those that refuse. I see a lot of trolling and bashing here, and though I agree that there is only one way to Salvation, do we truly need such words of hate? "Hate the sin, but love the sinner" goes the old saying, and I think we should try to reason with love and concern, even tears, rather than hate. Can we not all sit down at the metaphorical table and begin with similarities rather than differences? Say, starting with the fact that ALL of us have sinned and FALLEN SHORT of the glory of God, not just the unbelivers? NONE of us deserve so much as a thought from our Creator, yet He in his mercy chose to sacrifice His only Son to save our wretched little selves. Can we not focus on that? Can we not have peace? Please?

[wanderingspectator]

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To Sister Mary Maria:
If I may humbly say it, apologies for, apparently, "whining like a hippy" on your forum. I perhaps have gained a new understanding as to what interpretation Landover takes of the Word of God. I would, however, ask for clarification as to specifically what led the administration to label my post as "whining" or "like a hippy." I mearly present my opinion to the viewers of this thread, and ask only for, as your site says, "rational discussion" with "reasonable people" (from "'Noobs' please read this before posting." thread from The Landover Baptist Church Forums), and am unaware of what rule I may have broken. If you, or anyone, think I need reforming of my beliefs, please send me a message to inform me of how to do so, as I seem to be unable to see any scriptural basis for labeling my post an infraction on grounds of "whining like a hippy". Thank you.

[BillSattler]

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"Hate the sin, but love the sinner"

Do you have any scripture to back that up?

KJC1611 Scripture states to Abhor the sinner.

"Thou shalt destroy them that speak leasing: the LORD will abhor the bloody and deceitful man." PSALMS 5:6 KJV1611

[wanderingspectator]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Romans 5:6-8 6For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Luke 19:10, "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost."
1st John 3:16a, "Hereby perceive we the love of God, because He laid down his life for us."

2nd peter 3:9, "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Ezekiel 33:11, "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked

[Ezekiel Bathfire]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

Romans 5:6-8 6For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. 7For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. 8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

This is merely a statement of, "Accept Christ and be Saved™" It says nothing about sinners other than that they should repent.

Luke 19:10

, "For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost."

Those who are lost must first accept Jesus before gaining any after-sales benefits.

1st John 3:16a, "Hereby perceive we the love of God, because He laid down his life for us."

Preaching to the converted.

2nd peter 3:9, "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance."

Basically, you can repent at any time before your death, but you must repent earnestly.

Ezekiel 33:11, "Say unto them, As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked

Quite right! He has no pleasure in condemning sinners to the Eternal Pits of Brimstone to be savagely abused by demented devils, but He does it nevertheless.

Overall, your imaginative use of fonts is a failure, lending your pointless choice of verses no extra credibility.

I can only assume you've never seen a picture of a Bible, let alone held one in your grubby hands.

[Pastor Ezekiel]

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I may be new, but please, hear me out.
In our world of sin, there are always those who choose the wide path over the narrow one. And although we implore them to accept the gift that our Creator offers, there will inevitably be those that refuse. I see a lot of trolling and bashing here, and though I agree that there is only one way to Salvation, do we truly need such words of hate? "Hate the sin, but love the sinner" goes the old saying, and I think we should try to reason with love and concern, even tears, rather than hate. Can we not all sit down at the metaphorical table and begin with similarities rather than differences? Say, starting with the fact that ALL of us have sinned and FALLEN SHORT of the glory of God, not just the unbelivers? NONE of us deserve so much as a thought from our Creator, yet He in his mercy chose to sacrifice His only Son to save our wretched little selves. Can we not focus on that? Can we not have peace? Please?

You are an excellent example of why we don't pay attention to the ravings of unsaved trash. Your Biblical knowledge is just sketchy enough to be dangerous, and rather than actually read God's Holy Word, you cherry pick a few half-remembered verses and then spin them into a glop that NEVER eminated from God's mighty lips.

God doesn't love everybody:

Proverbs 6
[16] These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:
[17] A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,
[18] An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,
[19] A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

And don't give me any "He hates the sin, not the sinner" crap...

Matthew 13
[38] The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
[39] The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.
[40] As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
[41] The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
[42] And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Please make a thread of your own in the "Introductions" section of the forum, so that we can properly greet you. Tell us about yourself, your church, and how you came to find Jesus.

[wanderingspectator]

Re: Why Wicca is nonsense

I would kindly ask for your forgiveness, pastor. please, please tell me how to be saved from eternal damnation.

[Bob4God]

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I would kindly ask for your forgiveness, pastor. please, please tell me how to be saved from eternal damnation.

Oh glory to GOD! I was praying for you intermittently in my head today, and I just knew JESUS would work out a miracle!

Get down on your knees right now and tell JESUS you are a filthy rotten piece of trash unworthy of His amazing love and grace!

[wanderingspectator]

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I am, I truly am! Dear God, I am a worthless dirty little speck of dirt not even worthy of Him to spit on! Oh, dear God, how can I be saved from being tortured forever with fire and brimstone and reruns of Nobama's inauguration speech? Please, please tell me! Oh, God I am truly sorry for all my sins!! Save me!!!

[Bob4God]

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I am, I truly am! Dear God, I am a worthless dirty little speck of dirt not even worthy of Him to spit on! Oh, dear God, how can I be saved from being tortured forever with fire and brimstone and reruns of Nobama's inauguration speech? Please, please tell me! Oh, God I am truly sorry for all my sins!! Save me!!!

Who said you were banned? If you are truly interested in becoming a Christian, you are welcome here. There is always hope as long as you can be made to think like us!

[BillSattler]

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I am, I truly am! Dear God, I am a worthless dirty little speck of dirt not even worthy of Him to spit on! Oh, dear God, how can I be saved from being tortured forever with fire and brimstone and reruns of Nobama's inauguration speech? Please, please tell me! Oh, God I am truly sorry for all my sins!! Save me!!!

I am not sure what the point of blubbering on this blessed forum is. If you are truly repentant, God will know, you may want to take a look here. If you need more information you should look here.

I shall pray that you will come to God with open arms. If you do not that is fine, but plan on spending eternity with the rest of the heathens.