[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

..people who help spread the word of the Lord

I thought that Rev. Flint's response was quite clear? If they're Lutherans they're NOT spreading "the word of God" are they.

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

And Faith_Machine i respect what you are trying to do, which is bury the corruptness but i cannot advocate spying on the people who help spread the word of the Lord, unless i have proof they are preforming illegitimate arts.

Let me get this straight: You're telling us that you think going undercover and cooperating with a police investigation to take down Papist pedophiles is wrong because it's "spying?" And you regard pedophilia as some kind of art form!?!?!??

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

If you tell me that your last name is "Dover" I'm going to ban you so fast it'll make your head spin, boy.

FYI: Lutherans are not Christians.

Pastor Zeke, the source you linked to seems a little hostile toward the idea of getting baptized. He even appears to be saying baptism isn't necessary. Surely I am confused! It is necessary to be baptized, and to have it done when you're old enough to understand what it means, yes?

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

Pastor Zeke, the source you linked to seems a little hostile toward the idea of getting baptized. He even appears to be saying baptism isn't necessary. Surely I am confused! It is necessary to be baptized, and to have it done when you're old enough to understand what it means, yes?

so what would happen if you got Saved but dropped dead before the baptism?

[Faith_Machine]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

so what would happen if you got Saved but dropped dead before the baptism?

A most insightful question, Mitza! I dare not speculate, however; I'm sure I can find the answer in the Bible if I just look hard enough.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

I dare not speculate...I can find the answer in the Bible if I just look hard enough.

Thank you.

[Bible Student]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

Originally Posted by Faith_Machine
Pastor Zeke, the source you linked to seems a little hostile toward the idea of getting baptized. He even appears to be saying baptism isn't necessary. Surely I am confused! It is necessary to be baptized, and to have it done when you're old enough to understand what it means, yes?

so what would happen if you got Saved but dropped dead before the baptism?

Sister MitzaLizalor, I think we can see from this episode that sometimes Jesus grants exceptions to the rules.

Luke 23:39-43 -- And one of ye malefactors, which were hanged, railed on him, saying, If thou be Christ, saue thy selfe and vs. But the other answering, rebuked him, saying, Doest not thou feare God, seeing thou art in the same condemnation? And we indeed iustly; for we receiue the due reward of our deeds, but this man hath done nothing amisse. And he said vnto Iesus, Lord, remember me when thou commest into thy kingdome. And Iesus said vnto him, Uerily, I say vnto thee, to day shalt thou be with me in Paradise.

Now we know from other scriptural verses that the malefactors were highwaymen who murdered to get the goods (if you look at the Greek words used) yet Jesus promised Heaven to one of them who simply defended Him and asked to go to Heaven. I look at this as first the one saved malefactor performed a good work, i.e. sticking up for Jesus, then believed in him, i.e. had faith that Jesus was God. I just don't see highwaymen stopping off to get baptized on their way to crucifixion.

[MitzaLizalor]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

Luke 23:43

I see. That is very helpful.

[BenLovesGod]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

Please show us your wisdom

[Bible Student]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

Please show us your wisdom

To whom are you speaking? Did you ever wonder what that little Quote button is for at the bottom of every post? If you don't know how to use it, please ask one of our pastors or reverends.

[Rev. Jim Osborne]

Re: Hey, Im Ben.

Hello Ben,

What's your favorite Bible verse and why? How does it hold special meaning in your life?

YIC,
Rev. Jim